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    It seems to me that you and the group are saying if you surrender everything to the state, embrace the socialism, communism, give all you energies to the state and support the rape of the people they will leave you alone. Hmmm, Not sure thats what the founding fathers had in mind. Just my para-phasing of what I'm hearing so far. Tell me I am wrong. fb

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frederick Burrell View Post
    It seems to me that you and the group are saying if you surrender everything to the state, embrace the socialism, communism, give all you energies to the state and support the rape of the people they will leave you alone. Hmmm, Not sure thats what the founding fathers had in mind. Just my para-phasing of what I'm hearing so far. Tell me I am wrong. fb
    Your wrong. ... you asked me to say this to you, am only giving what you asked for so please [for]give me.

    It would sure seen this way, on one point about this I could say it is returning the money back to the paper creator and correcting a mistake that this is what you never intended to receive, protesting what has been done with the money supply in a sense. On another note you could also says it is not what my creator intended for me. If it comes against my neighbor I do not want it. Make sense?

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    Money is just a medium of exchange. Nothing more. I use it to exchange my energies for the energies of someone else, in a convenient fashion. It can be abused just like any other creation of man. But the abuse by men does not make money "evil". Take it for what it is and use it correctly and honorable and I can see no problem with money. The problem exists in the way in which it is being used today as a tool of manipulation, control and war, economically. The mistake it would seem is that the people were sold out by those they placed their Trust in. You seem to believe that there is some kind system in place, placed by men in high places, that will lead to a solution, redemption. I think it is up to us, to stop supporting a the system in place now. One way is to stop using their money. FRN. Don't play word games with me in regards to my understanding of what your group is about. "You asked me to tell you this". Please explain where I am misinterpreting what you are saying. FB

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frederick Burrell View Post
    Money is just a medium of exchange. Nothing more. I use it to exchange my energies for the energies of someone else, in a convenient fashion. It can be abused just like any other creation of man. But the abuse by men does not make money "evil". Take it for what it is and use it correctly and honorable and I can see no problem with money. The problem exists in the way in which it is being used today as a tool of manipulation, control and war, economically. The mistake it would seem is that the people were sold out by those they placed their Trust in. You seem to believe that there is some kind system in place, placed by men in high places, that will lead to a solution, redemption. I think it is up to us, to stop supporting a the system in place now. One way is to stop using their money. FRN. Don't play word games with me in regards to my understanding of what your group is about. "You asked me to tell you this". Please explain where I am misinterpreting what you are saying. FB
    No word games here an I agree with you partly, but would if the creator never intended for us to have money, What does a spirit need it for?
    1 Cr. 15:45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.

    Spirit expends energy, not material things upon this earth, when a flesh man has money, they often want more, one thing leads to another like a drug addiction.
    Let's look at the system though and I will use your quote about money: " The problem exists in the way in which it is being used today as a tool of manipulation, control and war, economically."
    As I have pointed out in several resources the system is a usufructuary, it can be used for bad or it can be used for good. If we give the system energy then it must return the energies of necessity so that we can keep feeding it energy, but the problem is the energy it is being fed right now. Make sense?

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