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    Its funny how refusing to swear an oath can be punishable in some cases
    "Juror jailed after refusing to take oath in federal court; judge calls act unprecedented"
    http://www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapi...fusing_to.html


    and not in others.
    "Airman denied reenlistment for refusing to say 'so help me God'
    http://archive.airforcetimes.com/art...y-help-me-God-

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith Alan View Post
    A slight change of subject, but this thread has turned to something I've been thinking about lately, about swearing oaths and making affirmations -

    “And for the support of this declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.”

    Is this not an oath? A pledge made before Divine Providence? If the question is inappropriate, please disregard or delete it.
    Those 56 Signors are sometimes thought of as Party to the (Constitution) Contract. So you are right on topic; thanks!


    Quote Originally Posted by walter View Post
    Its funny how refusing to swear an oath can be punishable in some cases
    "Juror jailed after refusing to take oath in federal court; judge calls act unprecedented"
    http://www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapi...fusing_to.html


    and not in others.
    "Airman denied reenlistment for refusing to say 'so help me God'
    http://archive.airforcetimes.com/art...y-help-me-God-
    That is interesting. There is probably something in the Jury Summons process where the jury commissioner grabbed that kind of jurisdiction?

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Merrill View Post

    That is interesting. There is probably something in the Jury Summons process where the jury commissioner grabbed that kind of jurisdiction?

    It has to be a little more then that because I have read on the net that there has been fines and jail for some witness on the court stand that refused the oath.
    They get contempt.
    But I think that charged is stretched to the assumption that "you are employed by the government."



    http://law.justia.com/codes/wyoming/...ection-6-5-306

    2014 Wyoming Statutes

    TITLE 6 - CRIMES AND OFFENSES
    CHAPTER 5 - OFFENSES AGAINST PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION
    ARTICLE 3 - PERJURY AND CRIMINAL FALSIFICATION
    6-5-306. Refusal to appear or testify; avoidance of service; penalties; summary proceedings for contempt.

    (a) A person is guilty of a misdemeanor punishable by imprisonment for not more than six (6) months, a fine of not more than seven hundred fifty dollars ($750.00), or both, if he:

    (i) Refuses or intentionally fails to obey a lawful subpoena or citation which has been served upon him;

    (ii) Secretes himself or leaves his residence to avoid being served with a subpoena; or

    (iii) Refuses to take an oath or affirmation or, being sworn or affirmed, refuses to answer a question required by the court or presiding officer.

    (b) This section shall not prevent summary proceedings for contempt.

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