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    Title 4 section 111 makes federal employees liable for income tax.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chex View Post
    Good point there IMM, I am just enjoying the jurisdiction subject and getting a better grasp on it

    Federal Power Limited

    The fiction, "that because it was an excise tax, it was legal," is not true. The power of the federal government is limited to its own property, as stated in Article I, Section 8, Clause 17, and to "regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian tribes;" as stated in Article I, Section 8, Clause 3. 18 U.S.C., Section 921, Definitions, states,

    "The term 'interstate or foreign commerce' includes commerce between any place in a State and any place outside that State, or within any possession of the United States (not including the Canal Zone) or the District of Columbia, but such term does not include commerce between places within the same State but through any place outside of that State. The term 'State' includes the District of Columbia, the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico, and the possessions of the United States (not including the Canal Zone)."

    Only employees of the federal government, residents of the District of Columbia, residents of naval bases, residents of forts, U.S. citizens of the Virgin Islands, Puerto Rico, territories, and insular possessions were lawfully required to file and pay the Victory Tax.

    I think this is where MJ states "you" must understand "Trust Law" ?

    In 1953, the United States relinquished its control over the Philippines.
    Why do the Philippine pure Trusts #1 (customsduties) and
    #2 (internal revenue) continue to be administered today?
    Who are the Settlers of the Trusts?
    What is done with the funds in the Trusts?
    What businesses, if any, do these Trusts operate?
    Who are the Beneficiaries?

    Coincidentally, on July 9, 1953, the Secretary of the Treasury, G. K. Humphrey, by "virtue of the authority vested in me," changed the name of the Bureau of the Internal Revenue, BIR, to Internal Revenue Service when he signed what is now Treasury Order 150-06.

    TREASURY ORDER: 150-06 Page Content

    SUBJECT: Designation as Internal Revenue Service
    CANCELLATION DATE: August 22, 2005
    REASON FOR CANCELLATION: TO 150-06, dated July 9, 1953. The entity formerly known as the Bureau of Internal Revenue would be known as the Internal Revenue Service. TO 150-06 is cancelled http://www.treasury.gov/about/role-o.../to150-06.aspx

    This was an obvious attempt to legitimize the Bureau of Internal Revenue.
    Without the approval of Congress or the President, Humphrey, without any legal authority, tried to turn a pure trust into an agency of the Department of the Treasury.

    Treasury Decision 2313 Under Internal Revenue Laws of the United States
    Even Pete. I have come to a more forgiving perspective, and no longer believe that anyone who has vigorously deployed the edited TD 2313 is guilty of deliberate fraud or ill-intent After all, the actual text of TD 2313 not only does not support the point for which the edited portion is presented, but does, in fact, discredit the entire 'argument' on behalf of which that edited portion is used. http://www.losthorizons.com/tax/Misu...ngs/TD2313.htm

    Know Your identity “Nonresident aliens are not entitled to the specific exemption designated in paragraph C of the income-tax law, but are liable for the normal and additional tax upon the entire net income "from all property owned, and of every business, trade, or profession carried on in the United States," computed upon the basis prescribed in the law.”

    T.D. 2313 is crucial evidence proving that the income tax provisions of the IRC are municipal law, with no territorial jurisdiction inside the 50 States of the Union. The U.S. Secretary of the Treasury who approved T.D. 2313 had no authority to extend the holding in the Brushaber case to anyone or anything not a proper Party to that court action.


    They agreed to income taxation when they took the job

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/4/111

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bentley View Post
    They agreed to income taxation when they took the job

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/4/111
    Very enlightening! Thank you!

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    Originally Posted by Bentley
    They agreed to income taxation when they took the job

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/4/111
    12 USC 411 still governs whether said tax is incurred by FRN Usage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doug555 View Post
    12 USC 411 still governs whether said tax is incurred by FRN Usage.
    Depending on where the loan (credit) is coming from
    "And if I could I surely would Stand on the rock that Moses stood"

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    So my lady is FINALLY *(exhausted) starting to notice things I show her. She is starting to wake up from her nap. Anyhow, she has these Treasury Bonds from '73-'75...to the best of my knowledge, I believe United States Currency Notes by then is considered 'lawful money' ...

    To my knowledge... Treasury Bonds are issued by those who wish to exchange credit (SSN) 'bonding' such trust for 25$ in exchange for credit back with interest made off such 'bet'

    To cash such bond would bring the (Equity) bond to a financial institution to allow holder of legal title to administer the public trust...

    Redeeming it accordingly with 12 USC 411 would restrict access to the trust in exchange for credit even though it is unfortunate such is connected to public funds...if that is the case and I'm correct, redeeming it would force the Treasury to replace all credit underwrote by bond to be set-off with lawful money?

    Anxious to read responses...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christopher Thomas View Post
    So my lady is FINALLY *(exhausted) starting to notice things I show her. She is starting to wake up from her nap. Anyhow, she has these Treasury Bonds from '73-'75...to the best of my knowledge, I believe United States Currency Notes by then is considered 'lawful money' ...

    To my knowledge... Treasury Bonds are issued by those who wish to exchange credit (SSN) 'bonding' such trust for 25$ in exchange for credit back with interest made off such 'bet'

    To cash such bond would bring the (Equity) bond to a financial institution to allow holder of legal title to administer the public trust...

    Redeeming it accordingly with 12 USC 411 would restrict access to the trust in exchange for credit even though it is unfortunate such is connected to public funds...if that is the case and I'm correct, redeeming it would force the Treasury to replace all credit underwrote by bond to be set-off with lawful money?

    Anxious to read responses...
    Redemption is TRANSACTION-BASED... not source-based.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christopher Thomas View Post
    Yes one was redeemed...crazy how a couple months ago a series E 25$ savings bond was worth 300+...current Treasury direct redeemable amount only 133+...I'm wondering if China's new agreement with IMF created an basket inflation within the SDR the basket of currencies?

    We are also thinking of redeeming them and deed them to the trust when starting the Trust account at the bank....
    Hear! Hear!

    Quote Originally Posted by doug555 View Post
    Redemption is TRANSACTION-BASED... not source-based.
    I want the readers to carefully consider the training - what she says to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christopher Thomas View Post
    So my lady is FINALLY *(exhausted) starting to notice things I show her. ...
    Congratulations to your lady, I redeemed the Treasury debt also five years ago and the teller looked to see if they were signed and saw “Redeemed U.S.Code 12 411”, and was asked can anyone do this? I said what’s the difference between you and me. The teller spoke softly and said “When I get home I have to do some reading”. Never heard a word from anyone.
    "And if I could I surely would Stand on the rock that Moses stood"

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