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    Whoa, that's harsh. To pay a million dollars over the years only to find you're no closer to ownership; merely renting. I've never seen an interest-only loan. And the payments weren't going to the bank but rather the mothership, Science of Mind, Golden Colorado. Seems there was some deception involved if the congregation, and even the pastor, thought it was a regular mortgage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lorne View Post
    Whoa, that's harsh. To pay a million dollars over the years only to find you're no closer to ownership; merely renting. I've never seen an interest-only loan. And the payments weren't going to the bank but rather the mothership, Science of Mind, Golden Colorado. Seems there was some deception involved if the congregation, and even the pastor, thought it was a regular mortgage.
    Kind of like pay us 10% each week so you can assure you "good standing" with God. You know because an all powerful, all knowing being can't handle money and is always in need of more. Or, if you are a member of a certain cult [err church] you can purchase indulgences in advance. And this works because you know the priest REPRESENTS God. What horseshit. I can appreciate the stories/myths because these preserved the truth thru the ages; however, it is truly a sickness when one gets caught in the net of literal [ism].

    Just pay your 10 percent down each week and, get this, WHEN YOU DIE, you get the prize. Yippee! Faith be damned, pay up or get out! And yet once one awakens from his long slumber he is met by those who want to, get this, save him! Ugggghhh.

    When met with one who would think me to be worthy of his cult, I am reminded of Bill Burr who says so many times to shysters "go f$%k yourself!" When faith falters [when weak am I] I turn to my center [Christ] and I am Strong - pulling up a fish, I take from its mouth and restore any breach. What shall the mountain say to one who has come out of confusion - is not that mountain a plain before a knowledgeable one? Standing on the mountain I declare "it be" and "it be." Should I be compelled to come down the mountain? I think not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Joseph View Post
    Kind of like pay us 10% each week so you can assure you "good standing" with God. You know because an all powerful, all knowing being can't handle money and is always in need of more. Or, if you are a member of a certain cult [err church] you can purchase indulgences in advance. And this works because you know the priest REPRESENTS God. What horseshit. I can appreciate the stories/myths because these preserved the truth thru the ages; however, it is truly a sickness when one gets caught in the net of literal [ism].

    Just pay your 10 percent down each week and, get this, WHEN YOU DIE, you get the prize. Yippee! Faith be damned, pay up or get out! And yet once one awakens from his long slumber he is met by those who want to, get this, save him! Ugggghhh.

    When met with one who would think me to be worthy of his cult, I am reminded of Bill Burr who says so many times to shysters "go f$%k yourself!" When faith falters [when weak am I] I turn to my center [Christ] and I am Strong - pulling up a fish, I take from its mouth and restore any breach. What shall the mountain say to one who has come out of confusion - is not that mountain a plain before a knowledgeable one? Standing on the mountain I declare "it be" and "it be." Should I be compelled to come down the mountain? I think not.
    I think the main turning point for me was when the Christians tried to scare me about the Masons. So I went to the big Lodge and found a museum and library. I asked the nice curator, "Do you mind if I take pictures?"

    Oh God, no!

    Interestingly he referred to me as God? The intonation told me that there was absolutely no problem. The second visit I was given a tour including the vault. There was no interference and everything was right out there, albeit the symbolism is still revelation.

    I reverse engineer, rather than get angry. Maybe parsing and utilizing what is useful is my way of ventilating?

    I spoke with a fellow once as we looked at a huge Christian campus. Ignorantly I told him that the religion was drying up, that the donations are empty figures and it will soon collapse. He had already acquired and studied the business plan for that particular campus just to know what a successful business plan looked like! If it is still there and thriving I guess that decides the matter...

    Who was right?

    If the congregants still invest in their own guilt trip, are they not bereft?

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    Christ talking about a building or a community?So where did the word Church come from? Church The etymology of this word is generally assumed to be from the Greek, kurios oikos (house of the Lord); but this is most improbable, as the word existed in all the Celtic dialects long before the introduction of the Greek. No doubt the word means ‘a circle.’

    The places of worship among the German and Celtic nations were always circular (witness circular Stonehenge, the most ancient stone megaliths on earth).

    Compare Anglo-Saxon 'circe', a small church, with 'circol', a circle. In Scotland it is called "Kirk" and in Gemany it is "Kirche," in England it is the word "Circe" (the "c" having a "k" sound).

    "Kirke/Circe" was also the name of a Goddess. Kirke or Circe was the daughter of the Sun god, who was famous for taming wild animals for her circus.The Kirk of St James circus circus

    So where did the word Church come from? It comes from the German word KIRKE.The word "KIRKE" is a word whose root goes back to circle - circe (the false goddess). Kirke is similar to the Hebrew word (kikkar) rKK meaning a disk or circle. Or SUN WORSHIP! (see Zech 5:6-11 NAS). The sun was worshipped as baal or lord by a full circle of pagans. Is it any question why some then worship on sun-day? workships forget worship idolatry is the first day of the weak? Tribe of Dannyboy all my sunday learning traced back to the circus rings . being over the big top working without a net THE CARNIVAL AND THE CHURCH
    The medieval church promoted carnival as a way of visualizing sin: a world turned upside down, when people disguised as devils and wild men would run amok through the city. It was an occasion for eating and drinking to excess, and a period of sexual licentiousness. In medieval theology, carnival exemplified remoteness from God. However, Ash Wednesday then marked the beginning of Lent, ushering in a period for contemplation, confessing sin, and starting afresh. Embedded and Embellished when any possibility of argument would be necessary . Temple within taxed internally but never spirit stiffed. God on Tuesday or hump day the circus has its place thank God its housed.If i offended please wait till Tuesday

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