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  1. #1
    Quote Originally Posted by David Merrill View Post
    In practicality there is not enough room for much verbiage. In Colorado...
    Walmart and the like sell sets of little tiny stickers that can be fixed to the back or center of a DL. Someone I know the Casino made her remove the sticker claiming that the ID scanner would not accept the sticker on the face (wording: "without prejudice") Alternatively, making very small, illegible marks via the signature pad...ya know...just a dot or two for a 'signature' an then using a fine magic marker to finish it off once the DL comes in the mail...well u get the idea.

    Removing the laminate temporarily and writing directly on the plastic card is perhaps an option?
    Last edited by allodial; 06-02-11 at 02:48 PM.
    All rights reserved. Without prejudice. No liability assumed. No value assured.

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  2. #2
    Anthony Joseph
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    UPDATE:

    More evidence of intentional falsification of a Certificate of Search request; DISHONOR.

    I sent a request for a Cetificate of Search on the true name Anthony Joseph on June 1st with explicit instructions as to how to perform it properly. See attached clerk instruction. I also provided them with example copies of a "falsified" search and the corrected search from the Colorado District court. Well, they sent me a certified copy of the search in the exact manner I instructed NOT to do. There can be no explanation but intentional falsification. I am sending it back to them with a request to "correct their mistake" in order to provide what I paid them for and to remain in honor. I instructed the clerk to file this entire process into my evidence repository.

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  3. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by allodial View Post
    Alternatively, making very small, illegible marks via the signature pad...ya know...just a dot or two for a 'signature' an then using a fine magic marker to finish it off once the DL comes in the mail...well u get the idea.
    I know of someone who made an "all rights reserved, without prejudice, by: given name" type thing for his DL: he typed that in the smallest font, printed it off, cut around the words, probably with an Exacto knife, affixed it to the DL, then laminated the DL. He says he was stopped two or three times, showed that to the officers, and was let off with "have a nice day" each time.

    So the guy explained it like: this was his way of re-contracting on his terms and turned the DL into his personal copy of the agreement.

  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by Moxie View Post
    he typed it, printed it , cut it around the words, affixed it to the DL, then laminated it on the DL. says he was stopped two or three times, showed that to the officers, and was let off with "have a nice day"
    Isn't that altering someone else's document?

  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by Chex View Post
    Isn't that altering someone else's document?
    Here's the thing though: what about when people reserve rights by altering (crossing out, rewriting) DL documents at the DMV -- aren't those docs their property too?

  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by Moxie View Post
    Here's the thing though: aren't those docs their property too?
    This is a question I asked way back. “If the property is in your name than whose is it”?

    If the property is not in your name then whose is it.

    If lawful money is in your name than whose is it?
    Last edited by Chex; 02-19-14 at 01:46 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chex View Post
    This is a question I asked way back. “If the property is in your name than whose is it”?

    If the property is not in your name then whose is it.

    If lawful money is in your name than whose is it?
    Ahhhh, I missed that! Thanks!

  8. #8
    As stated in Senate Doc #43, page 9, second paragraph, April 1933: “The ultimate ownership of all property is in the State; individual so-called “ownership” is only by virtue of Government, ie, law, amounting to mere user; and use must be in accordance with law and subordinate to the necessities of the State.”

    If you believe you own that property you refer to as a Name, please provide evidence of such ownership. Saying I AM JOHN DOE in YOUR COURT or in public does not make that Name your property. If property is owned/held by legal title, then you would be able to produce the original title to the property Name AS OWNER. If you can not, and all you can obtain is a "certified copy", signed by an authorized official who has some fictional title, it appears to me that the owner or legal title holder sure does not want you to have it. I wonder why?????

    I would suggest you all look up what the "legal community" considers to be a belligerent act, along with the bankruptcy of the US. If you decide that legal community DOES NOT function in YOUR world, as you are a sovereign or other self-important title claiming your "rights" or you "own this or that", boy are you going to be in for a real lesson. Sure TPTB do not want their fraud exposed and you "may get lucky" - over small stuff but when push comes to shove, we will see. For those who are familiar with Paul Andrew Mitchell, word is that he has been indicted for obstruction of justice, etc.

  9. #9
    Quote Originally Posted by Moxie View Post
    Here's the thing though: what about when people reserve rights by altering (crossing out, rewriting) DL documents at the DMV -- aren't those docs their property too?
    Not until you hand the document back to them with any desired edits.

  10. #10
    Quote Originally Posted by Chex View Post
    Isn't that altering someone else's document?
    No since the whole license is an agreement that you have created. The physical license card belongs to the "STATE OF..." under the terms of the agreement but the agreement itself is the signor's. A signor may alter an agreement at any time and the alterations go into effect immediately upon NOTICE. Notice = knowledge of the communication.
    If one desired they could place 'See attached" on the signature line and then carry the attachment with them.
    Another effective method is to form a separate NOTICE, record the notice in a public forum, issue a certified copy to the DMV and then carrying one with you.

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