Outside the Box

[motla68]

Thank you for continuing the discussion, I agree it needs more time to manifest in peoples minds, for most of the people i invited here it took them a while to for wrapping their head around the concept. I agree that their system is a layered onion of accounts using the name, not doubting that, but take a look through my lenses for a moment:

- Certificate of title is the authentication that a title exists somewhere, the only one that knows is the one who represents the name on the paper with their seal upon it.
They recorded the event so now they own the survey that took place. NOT the baby.

- When you went to work on a job, whom's name did you use, your true name or the estate name(person) with the ssn attached to it?
So from this who is the real Taxpayer, is it you or the Person? Then if a refund who does that go to, you or the Persons account at the treasury?

- How will the accounts of the Person be indemnified if everything is not returned to treasury, including the bills?

Attached is a clip taken from a pdf file because the pdf would not load on here for some reason:


- Also what I mean by the interest from a bank account being a benefit, one referencing about the name above and two most all banks are chartered by the state, so then who's account is it and if someone takes the interest and dividends from that account who becomes the one with a beneficial interest?

Final thoughts, can you really claim anything unless you have a trust with an estate that you created and not them?


One thing we are looking at is creating this private trust that we live through using the Trust Certificate instead of their Birth Certificate/COLB because it is quite a battle to get them to be in abeyance the rules of usufructuary for all accounting.

[David Merrill]

Thank you for continuing the discussion, I agree it needs more time to manifest in peoples minds, for most of the people i invited here it took them a while to for wrapping their head around the concept. I agree that their system is a layered onion of accounts using the name, not doubting that, but take a look through my lenses for a moment:

I have my doubts these days. One thing great about this method of brain trust as a backbone, is that as the new information comes in, I can modify my belief sets. In this case it is about two decades of a lack of information.

There is nothing to support the use of 1099-OID-style or Treasury Direct accounts. There is nobody banking on my birth certificate. The SEC does not keep a registry of FRN S/N's. I say these things because people have been making all that stuff up over the years and building on each other, not on the facts. But you can look in the State Department Bulletin and see the facts, and that says that SDR's, a fictional basket of currency is built upon confidence and security building measures that are quite whispy. This is the beauty of redeeming lawful money. It silently pulls the bricks from the zigurat. It is an illusion that everybody keeps by signing the endorsement in ignorance.

- Certificate of title is the authentication that a title exists somewhere, the only one that knows is the one who represents the name on the paper with their seal upon it.

They recorded the event so now they own the survey that took place. NOT the baby.

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There are no bank note markings! There have been no transactions on the original.

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See there at the bottom though? I created DAVID MERRILL VAN PELT, the constructive trust when I was twelve. I remember doing that but it took a long time to notice when the trust was created. That was when I was maintenance man at the Carriage House Apartments, that burned to the ground many years later.

- When you went to work on a job, whom's name did you use, your true name or the estate name(person) with the ssn attached to it?
So from this who is the real Taxpayer, is it you or the Person? Then if a refund who does that go to, you or the Persons account at the treasury?

The refund would go into my pocket. Then I would spend it. I do not have an account at the Treasury, nor my person (when I form one).

- How will the accounts of the Person be indemnified if everything is not returned to treasury, including the bills?

I think that I am recognizing your theories; at least parts of them. That is twice you are saying that there is a Treasury Account of some kind based in birth certificates and that instead of Refunds coming back to the taxpayer, they somehow go to the Treasury. [The advocates of the 1099-OID Form would admonish people to send the two parts of the process to two different IRS campuses - which is to say to trick the IRS into sending you your Refund!]

Attached is a clip taken from a pdf file because the pdf would not load on here for some reason:

I think Admin will raise the size limit on doc and pdf files to 200kB soon.

- Also what I mean by the interest from a bank account being a benefit, one referencing about the name above and two most all banks are chartered by the state, so then who's account is it and if someone takes the interest and dividends from that account who becomes the one with a beneficial interest?

Now you are talking about interest. Before you said the Refund was a benefit.

I address that in my second video. After a full refund you might address this to your boss/employer. If anybody is gaining interest from the Withholdings it should be you!

Final thoughts, can you really claim anything unless you have a trust with an estate that you created and not them?


One thing we are looking at is creating this private trust that we live through using the Trust Certificate instead of their Birth Certificate/COLB because it is quite a battle to get them to be in abeyance the rules of usufructuary for all accounting.

I think their lack of compliance is you making constructions that do not exist. I honestly do.

Robert Arthur MENARD made such a statement in his video; Security of the Person. Look at the 5:00 Minute Mark and the 1:00 Hour Mark. I pushed on the point for a couple months and had Rob spinning and gyrating all about that. It turns out that he is wrong:



There is no substance to this birth certificate being a revenue receipt. There is no return or refund. There is nothing in that registration number because it is not an account.