I was not directing the question at your particular case. It was meant to be a general question, although it was based on the info on the letter from the DMV. I was not asking you to prove or disprove the existence of the lien. Sorry if it sounded that way.

I was just trying to figure out.

1. perhaps the existence of a lien is a myth or

2. they don't want to mention it or don't know about it...... at least the people that sent you the letter.

The evidence for #2 is the fact that when seizing a car or property they do not take you to court to get the lien, which could imply that the lien already existed or there some law in place that doesn't require the IRS to take you to court. Just trying to do this jig saw puzzle before it rains anymore. fB