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    Once when a woman married, she would cease to be a member of one household and become a member of another. Also, where applicable, women married and would take on their husband's "last name". A woman keeping her name might be letting you know that she is not committed as you might hope.

    She takes the SEAL of her Husband.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Joseph View Post
    She takes the SEAL of her Husband.
    Question: In reference to the "surrendering" of a BC upon those who gave its issue....


    Those who surrender the BC are Stateless. For there is no Person to establish an Estate [Herediment]. At the Common Law what happened to Joseph, who was found to be Stateless? Was he not thrown into a pit and when the merchants came they seized him [TAKEN] and sold him into bondage in Egypt?



    2Ti_2:19 Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.

    Rev_7:2 And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea,

    Rev_9:4 And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.

    Exo 31:16 Wherefore the children of Israel shall keep the sabbath, to observe the sabbath throughout their generations, for a perpetual covenant.

    Exo 31:17 It is a sign between me and the children of Israel for ever: for in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed.

    Isa 54:5 For thy Maker is thine husband; the LORD of hosts is his name; and thy Redeemer the Holy One of Israel; The God of the whole earth shall he be called.


    To TAKE implies that all rights, titles and interests have been abandoned thusly the thing may be taken. The Use Rights in the Thing are then possessed. Since you are talking about a BC, then it is in your cognizance of a State and its Craft. Thusly in Statecraft there is a Head and a Body. And these two become One = nation state. And the One Body has a GREAT SEAL which identifies membership. Whose Great Seal is upon the top of that BC? Of course it is the name of the State whereupon the BC reflects an equity RESIDENT under and within the ARK of STATE which is a Ship upon the High Seas.

    In the system of Estates, noone is Stateless. Even Jesus said "My Kingdom"....


    Deu_32:6 Do ye thus requite the LORD, O foolish people and unwise? is not he thy father that hath bought thee? hath he not made thee, and established thee?

    Isa 54:5 For thy Maker is thine husband; the LORD of hosts is his name; and thy Redeemer the Holy One of Israel; The God of the whole earth shall he be called.




    Understanding and Wisdom must be married before Will can be birthed. [the Son]. Those whose names are not written in the Book of Life receive not Salvation. Thusly there is a value in being a member of Society. But in the Realm of Ceasar there are nation-states. And in the Inner Realm there are nation-states. For the Lower Mind has a king and thoughts/desires which serve him [Herod]. And such is the Higher Mind [Abraham] and even still the Divine Mind [Jesus] - as one goes inward the Carnal dies and Greed and Fear are replaced with Love and Faith.

    There must of course be a great battle in the Valley of the Kings. And many peoples will die [thoughts and desires]. Thusly give unto Ceasar what is Ceasar's for Jesus made it plain to Pilate - saying that Pilate would not undertake in his office unless OUR Father allowed. It is only the "Collective Judas" which seeks to force the Kingdom of God into this Earth. As Darth Vader would say IMPRESSIVE - to force into military service. Jesus said "My Kingdom is NOT of this World."

    Of course it is the prerogative of the Great King of whom shall receive the Royal Garments and when. Thusly:


    Gal 4:1 Now I say, That the heir, as long as he is a child, differeth nothing from a servant, though he be lord of all;

    Gal 4:2 But is under tutors and governors until the time appointed of the father.

    Gal 4:3 Even so we, when we were children, were in bondage under the elements of the world:

    Gal 4:4 But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,

    Gal 4:5 To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.

    Gal 4:6 And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father.

    Gal 4:7 Wherefore thou art no more a servant, but a son; and if a son, then an heir of God through Christ.


    Since debt is incurred by breaking the Law those who are UNDER THE LAW are debtors - slaves. Sin= Debt=Transgression of the Law. How to repay the debt? The Life is in the Blood. Thusly in Labor is the debt offset. Thusly Notes or Book Entries are just stores of Potential Energy. We have a choice - To Redeem our Substance or to Endorse a Third Party - to take the fruit to Adam. If in the latter, then someone else [without the Body] now has an interest in the thing.

    How many lovers will Eve engage? Shouldn't she be true to her Husband? Some take a Seal in their hand [labor] and then later in their forehead [trust] rationalization of their deeds - but true there exists a massive mind control effort to seduce Eve with hypnosis and other such techniques.

    Of course Eve is emotion [citizenship, laity] and Adam [Mind, Leadership] but when these two become One - He called their name Adam. Mr. and Mrs. SURNAME. A Family in the Ark.

    Thusly the Woman is SEALED by her Husband.

    I had a friend years ago who took a trip south of the border with the express purpose of surrendering the BC, SSN, etc. When the Embassy officer asked for what purpose my friend replied I do not wish to be a citizen of the State of North Carolina. The response was very simple, "Stop doing the deeds that make you a citizen." Nevertheless, if you are the Wife, then be the Wife - and you are called to Lead - then Lead. Each according to his calling.

    Thusly we see in the 55 they issued forth a DECLARATION OF TRUST AND TRUST AGREEMENT candidly upon the Minds of the World. Thusly these 55 with Understanding exercised their Will. And thus established a Testament. For if you look carefully you will see that the Preamble is a Testamentary Trust. And we know that a Testament is of no force whilst the Testator remains alive - because it is only in Potential Effect. This Potential is due to the fact that the Grantor may revoke the Grant at anytime during his/her life. But the Trust becomes Irrevocable at death - and thus men begin to Occupy as Executors and Trustees upon the Estate.

    Jesus disciplined his disciples [Natural to Spiritual] - Moon - Faith
    Then Jesus Send his Apostles to the World [Spiritual to Celestial] - Sun - Love

    Gen 2:4 These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens,

    The first is the Spiritual Estate - the latter the Celestial Estate. Generations or Nativities - the same. Notice God [Elohim] created the Heavens and the earth - Genesis 1:1 - but Lord God [YHVH Elohim] made the earth and the heavens!

    Gen 1:1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.



    The foregoing is an image of One Being - the Inner Kingdom of God - See Luke 17:21. We have 12 Cranial Nerves. We have 31 pairs of nerves which are attached to the Central Nervous System - and these 31 kings must be Disciplined!


    Jos 12:7 And these are the kings of the country which Joshua and the children of Israel smote on this side Jordan on the west, from Baalgad in the valley of Lebanon even unto the mount Halak, that goeth up to Seir; which Joshua gave unto the tribes of Israel for a possession according to their divisions;

    Jos 12:9 The king of Jericho, one; the king of Ai, which is beside Bethel, one;

    Jos 12:24 The king of Tirzah, one: all the kings thirty and one.



    If one establishes a new Estate by Declaration of Trust - Under the Providence of God - then the Heads of State transfer equitable interests from one State to another and said Equity is transferred into a Personage Ens Legis - for said Persons are born UNDER THE LAW.... Just as the good book says! And said Person must be written upon a Roll and thusly reflected in a Registry and a Certificate evidencing the book entry of Equities in the new Kingdom is issued upon the man or woman occupying in said Legal Vessel so that Justice and Equity may be done and the Kingdom may be righteous.

    When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.


    Honor thy Father and thy Mother - in decent respect to our Nativity.





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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Joseph View Post
    Question: In reference to the "surrendering" of a BC upon those who gave its issue....

    Those who surrender the BC are Stateless. For there is no Person to establish an Estate [Herediment].
    Don't you mean the COLB?
    That's the original jurisdiction before traversing to a Federal Citizen BC.

    There are forms that cancel BC.
    There are no forms that cancel the COLB.
    The State has the obligation to make sure the people are not Stateless by International Law.
    That is the mandate of recording the "Birth event".
    It can not be cancelled unless you do something stupid like "Joneh Bey" and create a duplicate original though authentication and become a joint holder of a split title document making it weaker in the process.

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    Quote Originally Posted by walter View Post
    Don't you mean the COLB?
    That's the original jurisdiction before traversing to a Federal Citizen BC.

    There are forms that cancel BC.
    There are no forms that cancel the COLB.
    The State has the obligation to make sure the people are not Stateless by International Law.
    That is the mandate of recording the "Birth event".
    It can not be cancelled unless you do something stupid like "Joneh Bey" and create a duplicate original though authentication and become a joint holder of a split title document making it weaker in the process.
    Thank you for your comments. I think the COLB is not an official Government Issued record. Therefore the COLB is unofficial and is usually the issue of a Hospital as legally authorized agent. The COLB is testimony evidenced later on a Manor Roll called Vital Statistics and this Manor Roll is the TRUE RECORD evidenced by witnesses [usually mom and dad - Doctor or Midwife]. A EXTRACT of the Manor Roll is issued called a Birth Certificate which evidences the Equity in the Ark of State.

    A COLB is therefore Testimony issued by the hand and witness of two or more. How can that be cancelled unless there was fraud in the testimony which is usually from mom or dad and state authorized agent?

    Since it is necessary to discipline the affairs of one's house, a responsible and righteous leader will keep a book of all equities in his house so that fairness and justice and equity may be done. Thusly the Head of House keeps a Roll [Registry] and everything is named so that interests may be disposed of in a righteous manner.

    Gen 2:19 And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.

    We thusly inherit in a name. For there must be order in a man's house.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Joseph View Post
    Stateless.
    Stateless is a term used by UN members and members to a treaty to connote those who are not nationals of any member of the UN or of the treaty forum, it does not mean that they do not have nationality at all. If ten members to a treaty existed at point A in time and one of the members ceased to exist for whatever reason at point B in time, within the treaty forum mental paradigm, the citizens of the no-longer-existing State might be 'stateless'. Someone who is a citizen of a non-U.N. member is 'Stateless' in the sense of not being a citizen of any U.N. member state. "Stateless" does not necessarily connote total lack of citizenship.
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    Quote Originally Posted by allodial View Post
    Stateless is a term used by UN members and members to a treaty to connote those who are not nationals of any member of the UN or of the treaty forum, it does not mean that they do not have nationality at all. If ten members to a treaty existed at point A in time and one of the members ceased to exist for whatever reason at point B in time, within the treaty forum mental paradigm, the citizens of the no-longer-existing State might be 'stateless'. Someone who is a citizen of a non-U.N. member is 'Stateless' in the sense of not being a citizen of any U.N. member state. "Stateless" does not necessarily connote total lack of citizenship.


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    Quote Originally Posted by allodial View Post
    Stateless is a term used by UN members and members to a treaty to connote those who are not nationals of any member of the UN or of the treaty forum, it does not mean that they do not have nationality at all. If ten members to a treaty existed at point A in time and one of the members ceased to exist for whatever reason at point B in time, within the treaty forum mental paradigm, the citizens of the no-longer-existing State might be 'stateless'. Someone who is a citizen of a non-U.N. member is 'Stateless' in the sense of not being a citizen of any U.N. member state. "Stateless" does not necessarily connote total lack of citizenship.
    Of course, the terms are subject to the Contract establishing the Trust Agreement called UN which is just an IGO. Thusly in regard to my trust agreement(s) as Settlor I make sure to manifest the meaning of exact terms specific to said agreement. Nevertheless folks are usually speaking from the view point of Canada or the United States of America. And these are claims whereupon dominion is exercised. Estates are formed and property rights and interests are disposed.

    Joseph was clearly "presumed" Stateless and since Joseph kept his mouth shut, he was sold. To your point, see the law of marriages found in Deuteronomy 24. And further expanded upon in Ezekiel 44:22.

    Eze 44:25 And they shall come at no dead person to defile themselves: but for father, or for mother, or for son, or for daughter, for brother, or for sister that hath had no husband, they may defile themselves.

    Eze 44:28 And it shall be unto them for an inheritance: I am their inheritance: and ye shall give them no possession in Israel: I am their possession.

    Who will help the Widow and the Orphan? Who has ears to hear to even understand?

    For many is the congregation being led by a spiritually dead leadership. Who will marry this Widowed Woman? In State or Church she requires a husband to form the Body.


    Nevertheless the program here is concerning BC - question is asked and answered. If mom and dad were debt slaves are the children as well? You tell me? Can the children come to life and exercise their minds and thusly their will? For I see a barren land - very dry indeed.

    Eze 37:2 And caused me to pass by them round about: and, behold, there were very many in the open valley; and, lo, they were very dry.

    Eze 37:3 And he said unto me, Son of man, can these bones live? And I answered, O Lord GOD, thou knowest.

    Eze 37:9 Then said he unto me, Prophesy unto the wind, prophesy, son of man, and say to the wind, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Come from the four winds, O breath, and breathe upon these slain, that they may live.

    Let the Four Rivers flow and the Four Winds blow such that Understanding [Father] and Wisdom [Mother] may be married and the Will [the Son] may finally be expressed. Would to God sayeth Moses [he who is drawn from the waters - TRUTH] that all would prophesy.

    John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

    James_1:27 Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.

    Who is he who is set apart that he may take a wife? And seeing that many have rejected the Law of God - they shall be no Priest unto God. Thusly we find many dead priests married to wives who sup at the trough of "hog slop".

    If one is a citizen, then she is to submit to her Husband, but if her Husband be dead, or if he is caught in Adultery/Fornication, then she is free to remarry [re-Contract]. She is released. But if she willingly stay, then she stays married to a dead man [leadership]. I speak NOT to flesh and blood.

    If she has causes which would impel her to remarry, then it is a decent respect upon the opinions of mankind that she voice her causes openly to a candid world and she should move on - shake the dust off of her feet and move on. But if she would stay, then she stays for good. It is her choice - just as if the shoe is on the other foot it is his choice.

    Spare not the hand of a woman who meddles in the affairs of two Husbandman - cut off her hand and have no pity!

    Hos 4:6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.

    Comment: A child is a deed performed. A child is a church born out of a parent church. If one has no Understanding and no Wisdom, then there is no real Will for one just does the Will of another - and thusly one's children are desolate. For many are the children of the desolate woman.

    Isa 54:1 Sing, O barren, thou that didst not bear; break forth into singing, and cry aloud, thou that didst not travail with child: for more are the children of the desolate than the children of the married wife, saith the LORD.

    With five previous husbands the Samaritan woman stands still looking for water [truth] at the well. Even now, she hopes and trusts that her certificates have value - for surely her husband loves her? Seems her husband has a STD and she cries in her Lamentations.

    Lam 1:1 How doth the city sit solitary, that was full of people! how is she become as a widow! she that was great among the nations, and princess among the provinces, how is she become tributary!

    Lam 1:2 She weepeth sore in the night, and her tears are on her cheeks: among all her lovers she hath none to comfort her: all her friends have dealt treacherously with her, they are become her enemies.

    Eze 23:33 Thou shalt be filled with drunkenness and sorrow, with the cup of astonishment and desolation, with the cup of thy sister Samaria.

    Who will marry this Harlot? Will she stand a Widow forever?

    Hos 1:2 The beginning of the word of the LORD by Hosea. And the LORD said to Hosea, Go, take unto thee a wife of whoredoms and children of whoredoms: for the land hath committed great whoredom, departing from the LORD.

    Hos 2:1 Say ye unto your brethren, Ammi; and to your sisters, Ruhamah.

    Hos 2:2 Plead with your mother, plead: for she is not my wife, neither am I her husband: let her therefore put away her whoredoms out of her sight, and her adulteries from between her breasts;

    Hos 2:13 And I will visit upon her the days of Baalim, wherein she burned incense to them, and she decked herself with her earrings and her jewels, and she went after her lovers, and forgat me, saith the LORD.

    Hos 2:14 Therefore, behold, I will allure her, and bring her into the wilderness, and speak comfortably unto her.

    Hos 2:15 And I will give her her vineyards from thence, and the valley of Achor for a door of hope: and she shall sing there, as in the days of her youth, and as in the day when she came up out of the land of Egypt.

    Hos 2:16 And it shall be at that day, saith the LORD, that thou shalt call me Ishi; and shalt call me no more Baali.

    Hos 2:17 For I will take away the names of Baalim out of her mouth, and they shall no more be remembered by their name.


    Who is the King of Righteousness who would defile Himself to take this Adulterous Woman to wife? Is it you?

    Eze 44:25 And they shall come at no dead person to defile themselves: but for father, or for mother, or for son, or for daughter, for brother, or for sister that hath had no husband, they may defile themselves.

    Eze 44:26 And after he is cleansed, they shall reckon unto him seven days.

    Melchi- King
    Zadok - Righteous Priest.

    After the ORDER of Melchizedok - a many membered body in Righteousness. For He called them TREES OF RIGHTEOUSNESS.

    Isa_61:3 To appoint unto them that mourn in Zion, to give unto them beauty for ashes, the oil of joy for mourning, the garment of praise for the spirit of heaviness; that they might be called trees of righteousness, the planting of the LORD, that he might be glorified.

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    What will you do with this BC? Does it not have value? Since you did not issue it, clearly it did not come to be under your Will. That would make you a Wife. And what of this Wife, is she faithful or rebellious? And what of this Husband is he loving and righteous? Is the whole body sick even from the head to the foot?

    Isa 1:6 From the sole of the foot even unto the head there is no soundness in it; but wounds, and bruises, and putrifying sores: they have not been closed, neither bound up, neither mollified with ointment.

    Isa 1:7 Your country is desolate, your cities are burned with fire: your land, strangers devour it in your presence, and it is desolate, as overthrown by strangers.

    Comment: And still she weeps - hoping to be loved by those who hate her. Is there any hope? Where is a Moses to lead his people. Can you find him in the mirror? Or are your thoughts/desires as wild asses [Ishmael]?

    If my thought dreams could be seen,
    they'd probably put my head in a guillotine....."Bob Dylan"

    Isa 1:17 Learn to do well; seek judgment, relieve the oppressed, judge the fatherless, plead for the widow.

    Comment: Would you adopt a Widow's Son?

    1Ki 17:10 So he arose and went to Zarephath. And when he came to the gate of the city, behold, the widow woman was there gathering of sticks: and he called to her, and said, Fetch me, I pray thee, a little water in a vessel, that I may drink.

    1Ki 17:17 And it came to pass after these things, that the son of the woman, the mistress of the house, fell sick; and his sickness was so sore, that there was no breath left in him.

    1Ki 17:18 And she said unto Elijah, What have I to do with thee, O thou man of God? art thou come unto me to call my sin to remembrance, and to slay my son?

    1Ki 17:19 And he said unto her, Give me thy son. And he took him out of her bosom, and carried him up into a loft, where he abode, and laid him upon his own bed.

    1Ki 17:20 And he cried unto the LORD, and said, O LORD my God, hast thou also brought evil upon the widow with whom I sojourn, by slaying her son?

    1Ki 17:21 And he stretched himself upon the child three times, and cried unto the LORD, and said, O LORD my God, I pray thee, let this child's soul come into him again.

    1Ki 17:22 And the LORD heard the voice of Elijah; and the soul of the child came into him again, and he revived.

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    Eze 37:3 And he said unto me, Son of man, can these bones live? And I answered, O Lord GOD, thou knowest.

    Eze 37:9 Then said he unto me, Prophesy unto the wind, prophesy, son of man, and say to the wind, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Come from the four winds, O breath, and breathe upon these slain, that they may live.

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    How many States and Churches have lost their way? Who will help the Widow's Children? Nevertheless Sarah called Abraham my Lord. A faithful wife - and a loving husband. A perfect Image of State [Church].

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