Translated? (Enoch)

[BLBereans]

We know this is not the FIRST ESTATE of man for that would mean there is a grave error in the Bible - Ref Isaiah 45:18. But consider the base nature of man's consciousness - how art thou fallen from heaven O Lucifer. Man likes to externalize himself and point the finger at others. But now we see the five aspects of carnality which brought man low into Base Consciousness. Man fell from the Mountain into the Valley of the Shadow of Death.

There was never and will never be a "talking snake". This is the Central Nervous System in man. Man choose to experience this Planet Eden thru this Carnal Nature. A reset thusly was made roughly about 12k years back.

In the Scripture Man is a Title. A Man is one who is Spiritually Conscious. Dominion is therefore granted to Man NOT the beasts of the field - those who walk in base consciousness! Clearly there is a problem with the historical model. Human's today cannot get close to building the structures of yesteryear and some would have that we are at the peak of technology? Hardly.

I see no error in the first estate of man being Eden. Isaiah 45:18 refers to the notion that God does not create the earth in vain; not to be a wasteland of confusion and shame as is the "end-game" for the idol makers/worshipers He spoke about in earlier verses (context!).

Pointing the finger at others so as to avoid responsibility for one's own actions is one thing, claiming that there are NO external forces in the unseen realm working against us is yet another. You seem to bounce back and forth between denying the literal and accepting it. There does exist a prime entity whose goal is to spread evil; we are NOT God's only creation. There is the Heavenly Host who is His Divine Council in the unseen realm and they too are responsible for their own actions. Some chose to follow the adversary in revolt and rebellion against their Creator since they did not find favor with God's new created family of man whose original estate is earth and who was granted great authority.

The "talking snake" polemic is an old and tired argument. The nachash is obviously NOT a "talking snake"; it is a serpentine-like shining being who obviously did not cause Eve to marvel as to why she was conversing with a "talking snake". The account in scripture makes it clear that she did not find the "serpent" being as unusual in her realm nor a being whose ability to speak was out of the ordinary. Heaven and earth were close and communion between the two realms was normative in Eden. God walked with them daily until the expulsion.

The "structures of yesteryear" were attempts by man to re-create Eden on his own terms (humanism - the lie of the garden) by re-gaining access to the Heavenly realm. I am NOT impressed with said "technology" when the inspiration behind it was for sheer rebellion and the religion of "ME" manifesting by way of assistance and "knowledge" from the fallen members of God's Heavenly Host. Any knowledge gained that is NOT directly from God is an abomination and should be regarded as such.