Non-Christian Historical Evidence for the Existence of Jesus

[allodial]

Context is very much important. The Epistle to the Philippians was a letter to believers (not to non-believers) who had all likely been baptized, believed on Jesus Christ ... likely had hands (of the presbytery) laid on them or had the support and direction of the Holy Spirit, even had an anointing (AFAIK all kingly or priestly power in the OT was vis-a-vis an anointing).

Re: two donkeys. The impression I got is that he sat on the clothes (clothes = them).

[BLBereans]

Context is very much important. The Epistle to the Philippians was a letter to believers (not to non-believers) who had all likely been baptized, believed on Jesus Christ ... likely had hands (of the presbytery) laid on them or had the support and direction of the Holy Spirit, even had an anointing (AFAIK all kingly or priestly power in the OT was vis-a-vis an anointing).

Re: two donkeys. The impression I got is that he sat on the clothes (clothes = them).

That would seem reasonable and logical wouldn't it? I believe it was common practice in ancient near east culture to place garments upon animals as a saddle for someone to sit upon.

They brought the donkey and the colt and put on them their cloaks, and he sat on them.

Many garments placed on both animals not knowing which animal He wished to ride upon; they accommodated him by either choice.

The denial of Jesus' uniqueness (fully man AND fully God) is essential to all false beliefs, ergo, the necessity to allegorize EVERYTHING in scripture.

The motive is always to deny the special and true nature of our Lord and Savior Jesus The Christ.

People see what they want to see; the "You will be as God" deception has been the most prominent tool of the adversary since the garden incident. All rebelliousness against our preexistent Father in Heaven began with that lie.

[allodial]

That would seem reasonable and logical wouldn't it? I believe it was common practice in ancient near east culture to place garments upon animals as a saddle for someone to sit upon.

They brought the donkey and the colt and put on them their cloaks, and he sat on them.

Many garments placed on both animals not knowing which animal He wished to ride upon; they accommodated him by either choice.

Even to this day people put clothes/garments/saddles upon animals and sit on them.

The denial of Jesus' uniqueness (fully man AND fully God) is essential to all false beliefs, ergo, the necessity to allegorize EVERYTHING in scripture.

The motive is always to deny the special and true nature of our Lord and Savior Jesus The Christ.

They know who He is but he spells endgame to a large-scale deception. Their denial of mankind being made in the image of God is part of it too. Of course, if one were selling membership in an organization as a way to access "godhood", one might regard Jesus Christ and God to be competition especially if he's giving things away for free.

People see what they want to see; the "You will be as God" deception has been the most prominent tool of the adversary since the garden incident. All rebelliousness against our preexistent Father in Heaven began with that lie.

The Bible and the historical records appears to be telling a story about men who believed themselves to be "God" and who without seeking help or tutelage of God have caused great and terrible harm throughout history while justifying themselves and their untoward deeds on the account of believing themselves to be "God" accountable to no one.

It seems that what the Adversary wanted was to wield men as tools against God rather than have those men receive tutelage and wisdom from God and be out the Adversary's reach. Even still, wisdom would have it that if someone has a "God nature" that he would seek wisdom and tutelage from God rather than from his adversaries.

The paradigm of Nimrod and his followers having made a practice of kidnapping to build societies seems to have been going on in the World for a long time, even in the USA. To this day, ISIS appears to be doing that very thing. Muslim raiders were kidnapping women and children even as far back in the 1700s and 1800s and further. In the USA, since the 1860s the attempt has been in impressing forced citizenship upon living souls (psychic kidnapping). The patterns are too easy to miss and the Bible helps solve the riddle.

[doug555]

Matthew 5:17-19

17 "Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill. 18 "For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass from the Law until all is accomplished. 19 "Whoever then annuls one of the least of these commandments, and teaches others to do the same, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever keeps and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

The issue of "gnosis" vs "obedience/trust" began in Eden.

It will be settled by the literal fulfillment of Holyday 2, which. in turn, will prove the literal historical fulfillment of Holyday 1 by a historical Jesus.

We will not need to rely on secular historical records, especially since the Word is the foundation of all truth.

[Michael Joseph]

The issue of "gnosis" vs "obedience/trust" began in Eden.

It seems to me that quite a bit of folks are somehow adverse to gnosis as if it is scary or taboo. Gnosis is knowledge. If one can't appreciate gnosis, can one appreciate St. Paul?

Rom 10:1 Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved.

Rom 10:2 For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge.

Rom 10:3 For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.

Those who would be religionists seek to establish their own righteousness. The tithe of the ten percent is a deed of total sacrifice to place one's entire life in trust with Jesus Christ trusting in the words of Christ Jesus. The carnal mind and all of its religious ideas are all "spotted cattle" which must be sacrificed.

For the flesh profits nothing. but who can hear such a hard statement? I wonder if we can't trust St. Paul, can we trust Christ Jesus?

John 6:63 It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing. The words that I speak to you are spirit, and they are life.

now can you understand the Parable? For Jesus NEVER opened his mouth except that he spoke in a Parable! How can I say that:

Mat 13:34 All these things spake Jesus unto the multitude in parables; and without a parable spake he not unto them:


I trust Christ Jesus. But this is just me. If one wants to keep days, months, years eat certain foods, etc well go ahead but it profits nothing in regard to the Spirit. Keeping those religious traditions and rites are death. But I let the Reader consider as it must be.

This "wait and see" religion is in my opinion bull dung! Jesus never said "wait and see". He told Martha the truth but in her religious zeal she could not hear.

Joh 11:20 Then Martha, as soon as she heard that Jesus was coming, went and met him: but Mary sat still in the house.

Joh 11:21 Then said Martha unto Jesus, Lord, if thou hadst been here, my brother had not died.

Joh 11:22 But I know, that even now, whatsoever thou wilt ask of God, God will give it thee.

Joh 11:23 Jesus saith unto her, Thy brother shall rise again.


Joh 11:24 Martha saith unto him, I know that he shall rise again in the resurrection at the last day.

Joh 11:25 Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:

Joh 11:26 And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?

But unfortunately she could not believe she was waiting for some future event. Many in religion today are the walking dead - they have yet to come alive in the Spirit.

Joh 11:27 She saith unto him, Yea, Lord: I believe that thou art the Christ, the Son of God, which should come into the world.

Joh 11:28 And when she had so said, she went her way, and called Mary her sister secretly, saying, The Master is come, and calleth for thee.


Nevertheless Jesus proclaimed in his gospel that the Kingdom of God was at hand! and yet, few can hear him - they are waiting for some future event. The carnal mind of desire [getting their salvation] blinds them to the reality that the Kingdom is available this day.

For the Holy Spirit said To Day if you can hear his voice!

Psa_95:7 For he is our God; and we are the people of his pasture, and the sheep of his hand. To day if ye will hear his voice,

Heb_3:7 Wherefore (as the Holy Ghost saith, To day if ye will hear his voice,

Heb_3:15 While it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts, as in the provocation.

Heb_4:7 Again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David, To day, after so long a time; as it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts.

IF David lived, he lived a long time before this this time! And he sayeth to DAVID To Day. I wonder if David wondered after some future event. Seems not.

Many harden their minds looking to some future event - waiting for another day - Reference Kadesh-Barnea

Deu 1:2 (There are eleven days' journey from Horeb by the way of mount Seir unto Kadeshbarnea.)

Deu 1:3 And it came to pass in the fortieth year, in the eleventh month, on the first day of the month, that Moses spake unto the children of Israel, according unto all that the LORD had given him in commandment unto them;

Deu_1:35 Surely there shall not one of these men of this evil generation see that good land, which I sware to give unto your fathers,

The "men of Israel" would not listen to the Higher Mind [Moses] therefore they wondered in Probation [40 years] in the wilderness of confusion when if they would just listen it would have just taken 11 days. 11 is the number of Joseph - Balance - an anointing of the "coat of many colors" - the 7 Spirits of God. But they doubted how could their religion be wrong? So they waited and all died in the wilderness. Consider carefully what that is saying to each of you. Enter in TO DAY if you hear His voice.

Psa 95:8 Harden not your heart, as in the provocation, and as in the day of temptation in the wilderness:

Psa 95:9 When your fathers tempted me, proved me, and saw my work.

Psa 95:10 Forty years long was I grieved with this generation, and said, It is a people that do err in their heart, and they have not known my ways:

Psa 95:11 Unto whom I sware in my wrath that they should not enter into my rest.

Those who can't accept the Kingdom is at hand THIS DAY - cannot enter into the Spiritual Sabbath - the 7th Day Celestial Man - Noah sitting in the tent drunk on the New Wine.

You can imagine your alcohol if you want but it is only your carnal mind drunk on the bitter waters of confusion. For She said To Day - THIS DAY - IF you can hear His voice.

Joh 2:3 And when they wanted wine, the mother of Jesus saith unto him, They have no wine.

Have you requested the New Wine from your Mother - the Holy Spirit?

Joh 2:5 His mother saith unto the servants, Whatsoever he saith unto you, do it.

Now consider religion and their false understandings in their religion. The Word does not leave any wanting who can hear.

Joh 2:13 And the Jews' passover was at hand, and Jesus went up to Jerusalem,

This is NOT the True Passover - this is religious rites and traditions! Absent any GNOSIS of the Spirit. Do not trust this man or any other man. Trust God. Amen.

May you enter in This Day and may YOUR Land no longer be Forsaken - may it be Married.

Isa_62:4 Thou shalt no more be termed Forsaken; neither shall thy land any more be termed Desolate: but thou shalt be called Hephzibah, and thy land Beulah: for the LORD delighteth in thee, and thy land shall be married.


That you might Passover from the wilderness of confusion into the Promised Land!

I cannot stand at the top of the mountain and look down. I am climbing the mountain just like all of us. So please do not place your full trust in my words. I am your fellow servant working in the field - sharing the wealth as it were. Know yourself and trust God - which is to say I AM.





Shalom,
Michael Joseph

[doug555]

http://www.biblestudytools.com/comme...pretation.html (emphasis added)

Concerning the inconsistency of the allegorical method and the damage which results, Seiss notes:

Good and able men have satisfied themselves with it; but, on the same principles of interpretation, there is not a chapter in the Bible, nor a doctrine of our holy religion, which could not be totally explained away. By a happy inconsistency do they not so treat other portions of Scripture, or they would transmute the whole Revelation of God into uncertainty and emptiness.22

Having examined a long list of these symbolic and allegorical interpretations, and followed the processes by which their authors have tried to apply them, I have not found one which does not completely break down under the weight of its own cumbrous unfittingness. They each and all fail to explain the facts and relations of the record, and treat John as a half-demented sentimental old man, trying to make a grand poem out of a few dim anticipations touching the earthly fortunes of the Church, which could have been better told in one well-written chapter. They are, at best, the wild guesses of men who have never got hold of the real thread of the matter, whilst under the necessity of saying something.23

How many are aware of the literal and physical aspect of the 7 Days of Unleavened Bread?

How many have literally removed all physical leaven from their houses for 7 days this year (April 3-9, 2015)?

1 Cor 5:7

7 Clean out the old leaven so that you may be a new lump, just as you are in fact unleavened. For Christ our Passover also has been sacrificed.

These saints literally were in fact unleavened physically, as this physical requirement teaches and reinforces a very spiritual principle, as Paul also explains.

Jn 7:17

"17 "If anyone is willing to do His will, he will know of the teaching, whether it is of God or whether I speak from Myself."

Literal doing leads to true knowing.

Ex 12:15

15 Seven days shall ye eat unleavened bread; even the first day ye shall put away leaven out of your houses: for whosoever eateth leavened bread from the first day until the seventh day, that soul shall be cut off from Israel.

The early saints knew they, likewise, that they would be cut off from the Church, spiritual Israel, if they had or ate leaven those 7 days.

We have lost that knowledge today, even as we have forsaken the literal aspect of doing (obeying) the Scriptures.

Those who are not literally and physically unleavened these 7 days are cut off from the true church and true knowledge.

1 Jn 2:4

4 He that saith , I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

[Michael Joseph]

Those who are not literally and physically unleavened these 7 days are cut off from the true church and true knowledge.

1 Jn 2:4

Consider the example of a religious one who empties the house of leaven food products and keeps the Passover according to traditions to the "letter of the law" but then after discharging his duties, he gets up the next morning only to turn on Fox News and let the poison flood into his mind. To what good is the removal of the leaven? We will not empty the physical house of leaven just to let Sin pour in by the wheelbarrow thru the TV, IPAD, IPOD or other media. For the truth is that we are to discipline ourselves to actively be upon the removal of the leaven "sin" from our lives. Yet we find that St. Paul tells us that "the Law is Spiritual". And further we find that the carnal nature is enmity against God and is not subject to the law.

Rom_7:14 For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.

Rom 8:7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.

Rom 8:5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.


Now therefore, let the Higher Mind [Moses] in you receive your orders from the Lord and may the Moses within you bring the Pharaoh [lower mind] into subjection. And may you cross thru the Sea of Emotion and Limitation so that you might enter into the Promised Land TO DAY.

Exo 12:1 And the LORD spake unto Moses and Aaron in the land of Egypt, saying,

The LORD did not speak unto the nation of Israel because then the Parable would not make any sense. The LORD must speak to Moses because Moses is your Higher Mind in Consciousness! The LORD will not speak to the "men of Sodom" - The LORD speaks to Abraham/Moses which is the Higher Mind upon the Mountain of Consciousness [Mount Zion].

Egypt of course is the physical plane. Sodom is the mental plane of base consciousness - a burning.

The angels are "ministering spirits" which bring the truth of God to the Higher Mind. What I eat with my mouth cannot defile me - Jesus said so. I believe Jesus and I don't believe religion. What defiles me is what comes out of my mouth which FIRST developed in my mind! Therefore the unleavened bread I eat is the "bread of God" which is for my MIND. And my mind rules my body. Nevertheless what I eat with my mouth can make my body sick. And to say it is my body is not correct - it is mine to USE. Therefore since I am living in another man's house - I should not abuse that which is not mine. Even my children understand that one - there will be no jumping on the couch!

Therefore Jesus also said "man shall not live by bread alone but by every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God" - which is unleavened bread. Or, if you will, the waters from the pool of Siloam.

Joh_9:7 And said unto him, Go, wash in the pool of Siloam, (which is by interpretation, Sent.) He went his way therefore, and washed, and came seeing.

Mat_15:18 But those things which proceed out of the mouth come forth from the MIND; and they defile the man.
HE CAME SEEING - with Understanding!

Therefore we eat the unleavened bread of Spiritual Truth - and we drink the Wine of Spiritual Understanding! Seeing as how "flesh and blood" does not enter the Kingdom of God, we are unconcerned with the manner in which literalists interpret the Scripture according to their traditions - the truth is this:

The truths of God are symbolized in many types - sheep, water, bread [Abel was a shepherd of God's Sheep = Thoughts]
The understanding of the truths of God - Wine

Mar_7:15 There is nothing from without a man, that entering into him can defile him: but the things which come out of him, those are they that defile the man.

Mar_7:18 And he saith unto them, Are ye so without understanding also? Do ye not perceive, that whatsoever thing from without entereth into the man, it cannot defile him;

Mar_7:23 All these evil things come from within, and defile the man.

Jesus is so blunt - I love it - he speaks of course to those who lack understanding who are intent upon the traditions of the church by eating and drinking and observing days, months, years, etc absent knowledge and understanding.

Therefore let the bread and the wine come forth from Melchizedok [WITHIN] and let their be peace. Flesh and blood did not reveal this to you Peter. So eat all the bread you want, eat the lamb, drink the wine - these are all fleshly and are merely tools for the school teacher. To observe these by "the letter" is death.

Luk 17:20 And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:

Luk 17:21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.



Last night in my house we celebrated the Seder. We took the symbols of the bread and the wine [grape juice] and we placed them before our children and nephews/nieces and explained what it means to eat standing up with loins girded with shoes on our feet. They are no longer in bondage to the symbol but they now understand what the symbols mean - they are only SCHOOL TEACHERS - yet so many remain in bondage under that yoke. They now understand the part of them which is Moses and that which is Pharaoh. Amen.

We eat standing, ready to run, with shoes on our feet because when the thoughts of God come in revelation we are SAVED and we act on those immediately in trust. Therefore we are in a PROCESS OF SALVATION - a disciplined race that must be run to its completion. We are being re-generated or re-created from a terrestrial man into a Celestial Man - a 7th Day creation - a New Being - a God Being. And God dwells in the Temple of my Mind and yours too! And there is no respect unto persons.

The symbol of man's thoughts are shown as : spotted cattle, golden calf, tilling the ground, nations, valley, desert, wilderness, men of Sodom. These must be sacrificed - not God's precious animals or the money that lines our pocket. [Cain was a farmer of God's thoughts as defined and limited by his reasonings which is to say HIS RELIGION]

Therefore the Passover happens EVERYDAY as we stay attuned to The Way of God - we pass over from death to life. Find time EVERY day to sit in total silence to "be still and know that I AM God". Take every thought captive. And knock on the door in hopes of receiving three loaves of UNLEAVENED BREAD.

Luk 11:5 And he said unto them, Which of you shall have a friend, and shall go unto him at midnight, and say unto him, Friend, lend me three loaves;

Luk 11:6 For a friend of mine in his journey is come to me, and I have nothing to set before him?

Luk 11:7 And he from within shall answer and say, Trouble me not: the door is now shut, and my children are with me in bed; I cannot rise and give thee.

Luk 11:8 I say unto you, Though he will not rise and give him, because he is his friend, yet because of his importunity he will rise and give him as many as he needeth.

Luk 11:9 And I say unto you, Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you.


importunity means persistence in shamelessness. Keep knocking on God's door.

God's Re-Creation of the New Day. See if you can hear Cat Stevens - the Sweet new rainfall is like the dew that first fell - undefiled by man - touched only by Heaven. Praise with elation - Noah is drunk on the New Wine.

Remember friend, I can eat unleavened bread without putting physical bread in my mouth and be in the Sincere keeping of His Commandments. This of course will offend the religious. So be it. Therefore, I teach my sons [new thoughts] and my daughters [realized new desires] disciplining them to be in accord with His Great and Wonderful Way. Therefore the Kingdom FIRST is realized Within me and it results in an outward expression - a walking example. A married Land results which is no longer divided [Cain v. Abel or Herod v. John or Moses v Pharaoh].

Speaking of keeping commandments according to the religious Jesus was chief in breaking the commandments. But that was only because they keep them literally and not according to knowledge and understanding - in sincerity and in truth.

Today is the beginning of the New Spiritual Year! Once again Spring has come - the Sun has devoured Aries and the GREEN leaves are returning to the outstretched arms of the trees.

It is time to cut off Medusa's head so that those serpents which blind a man in religious ignorance [traditions] might be put to death and the white horse of Understanding and Truth might come. The conquering horse has run his race, the red horse has fought his battles and the spotted horse of confusion has come and the pale horse of death has been conquered as we lay down our vanity upon the alter in the TRUE sacrifice, the true Tithe of the ten percent that God requires we MUST do. We sacrifice our carnal mind upon the alter; and, the bulls, the goats and the turtle doves which is to say our precious "own" is as dung in our eyes - a worthless waste heap of nothingness. It is then that Isaac is spared and in return we receive the 7-spirits of God. And we PASS OVER from Ai [wasteheap] to Bethel [House of God].

continued....

[Michael Joseph]

continuing...

Isa 11:2 And the spirit of the LORD shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the reverence of the LORD;

Isa 11:1 And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his roots:

Consider the parabolic meaning which is life. Else you are left with a hero and little knowledge concerning yourself! The term Jesse means "I possess". Jesus said "I AM the vine and YE are the Branches".

I cannot stand at the top of the mountain and look down. I am climbing the mountain just like all of us. So please do not place your full trust in my words. I am your fellow servant working in the field - sharing the wealth as it were. Know yourself and trust God - which is to say I AM.


Shalom Brethren,
MJ