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    During the mid-nineties the property taxes still seemed affordable here,
    being around $200.00 per year.
    I felt like it was a fair deal, because the County has a couple of trash dump sites where one can dump landfill trash, including used motor oil and recyclable metals, during business hours 5 days a week. We generate 2 to 3 bags of landfill trash every two months which we dump there.

    But then between 1999 and 2002 the tax bill increased every year even though the County tax assessor claimed that tax rates had stayed the same.
    I asked him why my tax bill kept going up and he said it was due to increased assessment value and land improvements I had made, like building sheds and a cabin.
    I challenged the newly assessed value and he asked me what value I would like for my land to be assessed at, and I named an amount that seemed reasonable to me at the time.
    Still, the tax burden soon increased to more than I could handle as a homesteader.

    Someone then told me about the "Greenbelt Law":
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    When I visited the tax assessor's office to find out more about the program the office staff was so helpful that I got the uneasy feeling they were being too helpful.
    As in "there's always free cheese in a mouse trap".
    The Assessor himself loaned me his cell phone so I could call a licensed forester on the spot and get started on the program right away in order to get the lower tax bill that year.
    After talking on the phone with the forester about drawing up a forest management plan, I still could not figure out if it was a trap or not, so I signed an application for it.

    Even though I had to pay for the forest management plan, I saved money on the first tax bill under the greenbelt program, and the bills have been about a third of what they would otherwise be in all the years since then.

    And that's how I became a treefarmer.
    My property taxes are still under $250.00 per year, which is still a fair deal because I dump 2 to 3 bags of landfill trash every other month at the County "Convenience Center" as it is euphemistically called.

    Many other Land Deed holders (I hesitate to say land owners since we must pay yearly tribute to keep "our" land) have joined the program in the last few years. I recently read an article in the local paper which talked about the "lost revenue" to the State of Tennessee due to the lower property taxes under the Greenbelt assessment.

    Perhaps this is why certain revenue agents have seen themselves forced to collect revenue in other ways lately, but I'm only speculating on this and I don't know if there is a connection with lost property tax revenue.
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    Revenue link 4

    Perhaps it is time to look at a CAFR and see what's really going on with tax revenue around here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Treefarmer View Post
    As in "there's always free cheese in a mouse trap".
    I frequently ask myself "Where is the wheelbarrow?"

    My bank wanted to give me a choice of two nifty options to move my account to. Upon presentment, my first question was, "Okay ... where is the wheelbarrow?"

    I read further. There is a $10 monthly account fee (whereas today I pay $0 in fees). I found the wheelbarrow! Consequently, I will have to decline both offers.

    If interested, I will relay the wheelbarrow story as told to me from George Gordon .

    Quote Originally Posted by Treefarmer
    Perhaps it is time to look at a CAFR and see what's really going on with tax revenue around here.
    If you need more information on CAFR, look no further than Walter Burien and Rod Class.

    Walter Burien was the person who exposed CAFRs to me.

    Rod Class claims the real party of interest in court cases is the IMF.
    I'm confident you will find both gentlemen of great interest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shikamaru View Post
    I frequently ask myself "Where is the wheelbarrow?"

    My bank wanted to give me a choice of two nifty options to move my account to. Upon presentment, my first question was, "Okay ... where is the wheelbarrow?"

    I read further. There is a $10 monthly account fee (whereas today I pay $0 in fees). I found the wheelbarrow! Consequently, I will have to decline both offers.

    If interested, I will relay the wheelbarrow story as told to me from George Gordon .



    If you need more information on CAFR, look no further than Walter Burien and Rod Class.

    Walter Burien was the person who exposed CAFRs to me.

    Rod Class claims the real party of interest in court cases is the IMF.
    I'm confident you will find both gentlemen of great interest.
    Yes, Walter Burien was one of my first exposures to CAFR too. The other one was CAFRman.
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    HI everyone,
    I know DM from sui juris & am recognizing a few others from there.
    I joined today & visited a number of threads, and decided to pop in real quick to say a big thank you for the info supplied in this thread.

    I also wanted to let ya'll know I have the pdf version of "Land Surveys and Titles" by Charles Claudius Kagey (one of the recommended books). I don't see a place here to attach it (long day, could be right in front of me LOL). So if you want it please feel free to contact me (I enabled receiving messages here).
    April Reigne

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reigne View Post
    HI everyone,
    I know DM from sui juris & am recognizing a few others from there.
    I joined today & visited a number of threads, and decided to pop in real quick to say a big thank you for the info supplied in this thread.

    I also wanted to let ya'll know I have the pdf version of "Land Surveys and Titles" by Charles Claudius Kagey (one of the recommended books). I don't see a place here to attach it (long day, could be right in front of me LOL). So if you want it please feel free to contact me (I enabled receiving messages here).
    Welcome to the forums. My previous forum nickname was Sivana. Good to see you here!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reigne View Post
    HI everyone,
    I know DM from sui juris & am recognizing a few others from there.
    I joined today & visited a number of threads, and decided to pop in real quick to say a big thank you for the info supplied in this thread.

    I also wanted to let ya'll know I have the pdf version of "Land Surveys and Titles" by Charles Claudius Kagey (one of the recommended books). I don't see a place here to attach it (long day, could be right in front of me LOL). So if you want it please feel free to contact me (I enabled receiving messages here).
    Hi there April Reigne.
    Welcome to StSC.
    You should be able to use the Downloads button at the top of the page to post your PDF file.
    I would really like to take a look at that book.
    Thank you for contributing to the learning experience.

    Bright blessings
    Treefarmer

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    Thanks for the welcome(s) and the info on where to upload docs.

    I attempted to upload the pdf but got this message: Your file of 7.28 MB bytes exceeds the forum's limit of 5.00 MB for this filetype.
    So I guess the best way to get it is to just contact me.

    However, I went through my pc to see what else may be useful here, and am uploading "States Metes & Bounds" (a compilation of the states boundaries) which I obtained over a year ago. Enjoy!

    Update: I have also uploaded "Allodial Title Via Land Patent" aka 'The Final Solution To Property Tax'.
    Last edited by Reigne; 06-03-11 at 11:25 AM. Reason: updated info
    April Reigne

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    Greetings Reigne , Welcome here .

    Try http://www.myfreefilehosting.com/ . Files up to 100 MB . No sign up .No e-mail addy need be given . Just accept terms of use , add tags , upload and grab the URL to share when done . You’re all set .

    Be Well , TG
    Not to be construed as Legal Advice, nor a recommended Course of Action. I will stand corrected.

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