Has anyone here successfully made their Real Property Private, and EXEMPT from Taxes?

[Michael Joseph]

I have a friend, Warren Johnson, who has created a state within a state, the Sovereign Principality of Portosel. He makes Treaties with the US Government, and pays no IRS taxes. He can issue his own drivers license. So yes, it is possible to create a state within a state. He has done it.

Cheers!

If a State were to exist WITHIN another State then the former would be subject to the latter. And as such, the trustees and administrators would lack standing to treaty. Only an independent State may "sign onto" international treaties. And regarding drivers warrants and license - the international travel treaty in Vienna does not allow a suppliant or subject to sign onto its manor rolls.

This Warren Johnson most likely has exercised the Right of Self Determination just as the founders did in the Declaration of Independence.

Now a [e]State may be subject to a Kingdom as a "vassal" to the throne, and yet still be domestically sovereign in regard to its subjects. This we see everywhere.

Writs or Warrants are the work of a Sovereign which indemnify the Acts of His Court as they are understood in the Treasury which naturally belongs to the Sovereign. Suppliants seeking justice within the jurisdiction of said Kingdom are subject to the King and are resident to the King's Dominion [Kingdom]. Said King's Dominion is established upon a Claim and Survey. And dominion is exercised at Law.

In fact, it is only in the Magnus Regis whereby any Kingdom may treaty. If said King places in a plenipotentiary full power to treaty vested in trust by grant, and, in fact, this is how it is done; then one can easily see that Trust is UNDER Law. And therefore Trust is subject to the Administration of the kingdom. And that would include All trusts - even the "so called" cestui que vie trust. Therefore anyone claiming in Trust subjects himself to the Prince of which it is vested with the Administration.

Even the Use of Law subjects one by benefit to the Kingdom of which said Law is used. I have listened to many who indicate that their inheritance is in the common law and that may be true [actually it is true] but think about that for a moment. If one inherits by birth then the disposition of the benefit begs Administration and Trustee. There is a reason why the Franciscans have the triple crown in their "Crest" - also we see that the Jesuits are also under or "work for" the Franciscans.

So when one says "common law" one had best frame one's declaration. Which is to beg the question, common to which jurisdiction?

[Chex]

Examining title to oneself might be more important than examining title to one's stuff.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/anncon/html/amdt6frag1_user.html#amdt6_hd5

[allodial]

A trust structure might have the same property tax obligations, simply because you cannot create a state within a state. However trust structures supply a lot more privacy.

I have a friend, Warren Johnson, who has created a state within a state, the Sovereign Principality of Portosel. He makes Treaties with the US Government, and pays no IRS taxes. He can issue his own drivers license. So yes, it is possible to create a state within a state. He has done it.

Cheers!

Well it might do you well to consider that while states can have exterior boundaries (as many well know and agree) they can also have interior boundaries. A state within a state, technically, isn't an impossibility, it was prohibited in some jurisdictions ('men under arms'? might be a related terms). As in, the Sovereign Principality of Portosel might not necessarily be a a state within a state. If you really know the topic at hand well enough, I suspect it will make lots of sense.

A trust structure might have the same property tax obligations....Cheers!

What is the effect of registration in the Torrens land registration system? What is the difference between an estate and a state? What is the French term for United States? What is the Spanish term for the United States of America? What is the French term for estate? What is the Spanish term for estate? What area or specialization or subject of the study of law do the terms 'divided title' and 'equitable title' pertain? What remains of a trust when the trustee quits, dies or is incapacitated?

Congress already planned it out for you, pursuant to divine law...

Or, Congress realized that Congress could not contravene divine law without getting into deep doo doo.

[CommonLawWarrior]

A trust structure might have the same property tax obligations, simply because you cannot create a state within a state. However trust structures supply a lot more privacy.

I have a friend, Warren Johnson, who has created a state within a state, the Sovereign Principality of Portosel. He makes Treaties with the US Government, and pays no IRS taxes. He can issue his own drivers license. So yes, it is possible to create a state within a state. He has done it.

Cheers!

[David Merrill]

Jesus CHRIST is indeed Yehoshuah followed by MESHIACH. Or first and last name.

But I feel that His Name, Jesus Christ of Nazareth also reflected His WORD, meaning the Office CHRIST is whole brain thinking. Neuroregenesis - I am calling it. The miracle of spontaneous healing, I call that biocosmetric sonoluminescence for now and may best be described as the shaping of another's EMF (astral/chi body) to conform to the natural DNA hologram so that health may follow. Traditionally this is done through decades of attentive training, but by assisting with transducers and modern electronics I see the ability to cut that training period way short.

In other words, The ability to invent a star in the near future.

And that is only a reflection - star creation and time travel.

Congress already planned it out for you, pursuant to divine law:


They shall be redeemed in lawful money by demand...


All else, I am simply placing a lien...



P.S. Funny how liens can only be placed against social delusion. - The social delusion that anything can function permanently outside divine law.

Funnier is how folks might interpret my prophecy to be a Crash - or some kind of Book of Revelation apocalypse. Quite the contrary; the lien is there to prevent such confusion and loss.

[allodial]

Examining title to oneself might be more important than examining title to one's stuff.

[David Merrill]

So, I think, if I have read this thread correctly, you are the one person who has answered my questions in the affirmative.

If that be so, then is all that prior discussion of things that seem absolutely like a foreign language to me, stuff I have to be expert in to effect the goal of owning my own land and structures?

If so, I will be busy.

On a side note: I have paid $15,000 in one year for property taxes. I would think I can get a lot of legal work done for $15,000. What say you?

Thanks for your input, even if I don't understand the majority of it.

Scott

Part of understanding it, so that you can utilize your understanding is that Redemption is for the Unredeemed (debtors). I am adding the word to the website dictionary/spellchecker - unredeemed.

This Bill of Exchange only has effect on debt.


Look at the new price of gold! - $42.22/fine troy ounce. It is funny how easy it is to build a library and construct a portrait so different from reality out of the Five components of Illusion; parable, hallucination, legend, myth and fable. - And you will think you have an accurate picture all right; and then you try convincing somebody bound to rules of evidence, who examines your source material compared to Page 4;




Well, I am just reminding most of you; dropping the price of gold like that "will feel" like a crash! If it feels like a crash, then is it really crashing?

If you are God, meaning you understand how Creation works (e=mc²) then just go love those folks down at the government worship 501(c)(3) on the corner, redeem them; after all, you are God YOU ARE. For a moment you might find a glimpse of satisfaction in owning that nice building... You redeemed it while all those corporate officers were busy worshiping their attorneys...



P.S. Call this - Redeemed in the Mind of God.

[allodial]

If you're wanting to acquire or perfect full title to land, automobiles, etc. it is very much possible. But as indicated one IMHO would do well to know what one is getting into and the various jurisdictional issues especially if you have a municipal corporation to potentially contend with. I wouldn't expect that anyone will drop a recipe at your feet publicly online even if only because it might not be appropriate for your specific situation.

It would probably help for you to:

* - get familiar with concepts of real property law and personal property law
* - know the difference between equitable title and legal title
* - get familiar with the Torrens registration system generally
* - learn the county land description terms and abbreviations used by the assessor or recorder (i.e. in property descriptions)
* - determine the 'generally accepted' origins and source of title to land throughout Texas generally
* - know the importance of fences, walls and permanent markers (not talking about Sharpies) for preventing confusion, fraud and land theft
* - know the importance of a property survey using stakes and chains and have one done if you haven't
* - determine the geographic coordinates of your property and its corner boundaries and such
* - do a title search YOURSELF even if with help

Also, to keep you from wasting time, I wouldn't put too emphasis on "land patents" except maybe for their significance in doing a title search and tracing a 'ambient title' back to its 'origins' (i.e. understanding the foundations of the local system).

Say you somehow manage to perfect full title to that land, how will you manage transfer or distribution of land to family members during or after your life and how exactly you will organize the possession of the land.

(Concrete is over-rated)

...I have to be expert in to effect the goal of owning my own land and structures? If so, I will be busy.

Probably so.

People can own land and structures, free from taxation. But also servants can be unfaithful, liars, thieves and even treasonous murderers.

Ever seen someone robbed of nearly 500 acres? I have. Imagine that kind of heist! Pro tip: if you have that much land: put a wall or fence around it, a very durable stone wall preferably.

[CommonLawWarrior]

Yes. I know. I do.

So, I think, if I have read this thread correctly, you are the one person who has answered my questions in the affirmative.

If that be so, then is all that prior discussion of things that seem absolutely like a foreign language to me, stuff I have to be expert in to effect the goal of owning my own land and structures?

If so, I will be busy.

On a side note: I have paid $15,000 in one year for property taxes. I would think I can get a lot of legal work done for $15,000. What say you?

Thanks for your input, even if I don't understand the majority of it.

Scott

[David Merrill]

Yes. I know. I do.

[pumpkin]

People can own land and structures, free from taxation. But also servants can be unfaithful, liars, thieves and even treasonous murderers.

[David Merrill]

For some reason Isaiah 14:12 came to mind, re: Vietnam, mercenaries being passed off as de jure armies and the wake of all of that kind of thing.

Isa 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

I'm not seeing it yet.

[allodial]

For some reason Isaiah 14:12 came to mind, re: Vietnam, mercenaries being passed off as de jure armies and the wake of all of that kind of thing.

[David Merrill]

There is an oath sworn, to be willingly assassinated/terminated (in horrible ways) at about every major step up the degree ladder, in Masonry.

[Binbokusai Yagyuu]

I get that. It is registered as 'Real Estate or Real Property' with the county courthouse, done so that the Lender has recourse if you don't pay off the debt.

What I am referring to is PAID FOR property, turned into some kind of 'private property, land patent, or whatever you have to call it' that is NOT subject to property taxes. Has anyone on here DONE this?

Theory is just talk, and that comes cheap. But I want to learn from someone who has put his full commercial liability on the line to WIN this fight!

I may only speak of what passes for law in my STATE--
That said, I am unaware of any Land that was "Registered" in my COUNTY

You may find analogous STATUTES in your area that have to do with the difference between "Filing" and "Recording" a Deed
with concomitant liabilities on both sides