With statists and attorneys, the devil is always in the details.
Watch what they say and see if it squares up with the question you asked. It rarely, if ever, will. Nevertheless, you have to stay within your court of competent jurisdiction if you wish to successfully rebut their subterfuge and discredit their claim or allegation.
It is all about whose perception is going to prevail. If they can sway your perception of reality over to theirs, they will. And once they do, they will have obtained your consent. That's really all they are after is your consent. And you have to be ever vigilant not to provide it to them.