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    Quote Originally Posted by allodial View Post
    The phrase "the United States and Canada" smacks of a singularity (i.e. mathematical union) IMHO.
    Well Dean Clifford also said that "we're owned by the same entity, it sure seems that way to me too".

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    Quote Originally Posted by loveunderlaw View Post
    Well Dean Clifford also said that "we're owned by the same entity, it sure seems that way to me too".
    There is more than one "United States". Dean Clifford should know that. The United State being owned by someone or some entity doesn't make "we" owned AFAIK. Also "international traffic" seems to have a 'twin' or 'cousin' called "interstate commerce".
    Last edited by allodial; 10-31-14 at 07:24 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by allodial View Post
    There is more than one "United States". Dean Clifford should know that. The United State being owned by someone or some entity doesn't make "we" owned AFAIK. Also "international traffic" seems to have a 'twin' or 'cousin' called "interstate commerce".

    I'm pretty sure he was talking about the corporations, and not the actual land mass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by loveunderlaw View Post
    I'm pretty sure he was talking about the corporations, and not the actual land mass.
    Is there a landmass called the United States? Or are there landmasses or entities that are construed to be territories of the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by David Merrill View Post
    I associate it more closely to METRO organization - global municipal jurisdiction, because of New York. The priests get a jurisdiction that is spread throughout the territorial jurisdictions. See I Chronicles Chapter 6.
    The said territory, and the States which may be formed therein, shall forever remain a part of this Confederacy of the United States of America, subject to the Articles of Confederation, and to such alterations therein as shall be constitutionally made; and to all the acts and ordinances of the United States in Congress assembled, conformable thereto. The inhabitants and settlers in the said territory shall be subject to pay a part of the federal debts contracted or to be contracted, and a proportional part of the expenses of government, to be apportioned on them by Congress according to the same common rule and measure by which apportionments thereof shall be made on the other States. Source: Article 4, the Northwest Ordinance
    Yes...territories. Is that what happens when a municipality swallows up an entire county? Everyone is presumed to be in dead hands of a corporation (i.e. no man's land cos they're all 'dead')? Does that have anything to do with the Egyptian Book of the Dead? Speaking of the Constitution for the United States of America of 1788--smells like a territorial government charter. If they wanted to be sneaky and expand their territory beyond its original confines, syntax games would probably do the trick--ya know like having Territorial governments posing as something other than what they are.

    Related: terra nullius; no man's land; Northwest Ordinance; Plenary Power.

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    Re: New York... New York might be a special case.

    Re: Colorado forms...

    Colorado MV forms here.

    Colorado has a similar system to Missouri and Kansas. You'd probably have to attach an affidavit with the proper language with a Statement of Transfer or the like. Missouri and Texas each have form for surrender of a driver licenses but the State of Missouri folks don't make them readily available. You can call them and arrange an appointment to do the surrender. Perhaps they have a form for surrender of license plates.

    Key might be assigning it in such a way that it goes to a non-resident.
    Last edited by allodial; 11-02-14 at 01:01 AM.
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