Presenting Driver License Card

[Christopher-T:Farley]

Okay, So yesterday was intresting, I attempted to open an account with no ssn and served two notices to bankman one Constructive, beware, they try to use Patriot act to request identification, have a look at cip (certifying identification procedures) requires "reasonable belief") Section 226 or 326 of patriot act is the rebuttal to that. My thought is if you look up treasury form pdf0385 you'll see where im headed and back that up with an Affidavit of Truth or One's self.. whatever you title it as long as you stand correct, you have proven reasonable belief of identity, if you see the form it requires a meddalion stamp (securities) well this is a checking and is governed by art 9 right? well, im dealing with my "exemption" with the treasury mr. bankman im sorry to inform you that your a middle man with obligations and such information is not required by law. however, i'm acting in good-faith to do business, the treasury certifys this. Also, it got a presentment today dept of education, steped in and used 12 usc, (thank you for that new info, opened me up to more info) on the "remedy" (stub portion they always want back with an open check) and A4V the contract it was attached to. question is it obligatory to use registered mail? or have I, in admin terms and regulation z fulfilled good-faith?

[David Merrill]

My response is to think of SSI as insurance. Now especially if you have been paying premiums for 40+ quarters (10 years) then you are eligible for "old age" insurance payouts, as I call it.

I don't have a SSN.

This means that it is an identifier for that insurance policy. Why would I give it to anybody. So instead of them prying and coercing me for it, I simply tell them I do not have one. I am sure that the insurance company does not want me talking about my policy to third parties anyway. I recall the older cards saying, NOT TO BE USED FOR IDENTIFICATION. - Something like that.

So parse through it, like a grammatical project.

What they will do if they need the SSN to proceed is use the one on file? So why did they insist so fiercely that I provide it if they already had it?! ANSWER: They need my consent to use it for ID purposes. If ANYBODY uses the SSN for anything without your consent that is probably Identity Theft; especially if they are utilizing it for a transaction like Booking.

So if they just use the one already on file in Booking, you can bet if you sued the Sheriff for that, or tried to charge him with theft of some sort, the Lieutenant on duty would just say that you told it to him (gave your consent to use it).

So far as the bank goes, they need to identify you as an INDIVIDUAL.

That one is quite easy to parse out. Individuals are alone and separate. AKA - sinner. Death/Debt/Doubt (God loves you). This puts you into their religious registration as those who need to make sacrifice to appease an angry and jealous God. - A god of religious manufacture, made up out of the guilt of converting love into currency.

Next time you see a homeless man or woman pull out $5 or $20 and ask, Do you need some money? You will start to get it. Go to a different bank and give the the number of the policy, put your demand on the Signature Card. Here is some advice. When they want you to sign a digital pad tell them that you need a true paper copy, to be a responsible fiduciary for the trust you are arranging. They should be able to accommodate you and provide you a pen and paper Signature Card.

If you have been walking away from ANYTHING that you sign without a copy in your hand, then make sure that you just write, "Lawful Money." and nothing else. Make your demand for redemption clear.

The patriot mythology is like self-flagellation. You will never get ahead and prosper until you study trust law. Click on my signature to get started at Lawful Money Trust.

[Christopher-T:Farley]

David,

yes, ive looked at that site I just don't have the membership fees. also signature card? are you talking about the ss card or the Original stub portion the card is attached to? its like the same size as a frn a little bigger and says "Social Security is a package of protection- retirement, survivors, and disability insurance." (that was clear what it is used for huh?) then next sentence, It protects you and your family while you work and after you retire. (im wonder what the "while" consists of?) Social Security is a base you can build on, now and for the future, with other insurance and investments. (emphasis added)

[David Merrill]

Not only that the training style that has infected law enforcement is a pissant "us vs them" attitude. Providing false training is a felony when it results in a conspiracy against rights.

Which brings up the question, Who trains the police?



He either does not know the law, or has obviously broken it from allegedly taking up office!

Therefore we begin on the presumption that the police are incompetent in and at law. Show some compassion, that is on the the presumption you are "learned in the law" yourself.

That was in the organic laws of Colorado as a Territory. The requirement to become a lawyer was to be "learned in the law" and have the recommendation of an already reputable lawyer.

David,

yes, ive looked at that site I just don't have the membership fees. also signature card? are you talking about the ss card or the Original stub portion the card is attached to? its like the same size as a frn a little bigger and says "Social Security is a package of protection- retirement, survivors, and disability insurance." (that was clear what it is used for huh?) then next sentence, It protects you and your family while you work and after you retire. (im wonder what the "while" consists of?) Social Security is a base you can build on, now and for the future, with other insurance and investments. (emphasis added)

[Michael Joseph]

A SSN is not used as identification of a man - that would be against Divine Law. The SSN identifies an account and said account is referenced to an estate. And said estate is CQVT whereof the man or woman is co-trustee, grantor and co-beneficiary.

The estate and account are resident within the State. I, a Man, may choose whereof to rest my head. Once I comprehended the trust and how it works both as an entity and as a relationship, then my eyes opened. I AM THAT, I AM by choice. But once my choice is made and I have given my vows [to engage or marry], then it is reasonable that my vows be paid.

Therefore Jesus said it is better than one should not take an oath. For one who performs duty does so out of debt according to his promise to perform expressed by signature or implied by deed [or lack thereof].

Reference FDR: government bonds and newly formed trust accounts....

Law is above Trust. For Trust contemplates property or estate and these latter can only exist subject to claim and dominion. Therefore trust is subordinate to Law. And therefore Trust is subject to a higher power of Administration. And therefore it would do one a great benefit to read and understand Unam Sanctum and the triple crown [three testamentary trusts] formed out of that claim.

Said another way a child is his parents house is subject to the rule of his parents. Liability being key and all..

The SSN is for TAX REPORTING PURPOSES - this has to do with TRANSFER OF ESTATE. Make a demand for lawful money per 12USC411. Say Goodnight Gracie. In Jim Rome style - GOOD NIGHT NOW.

Happy Father's Day,
MJ

[allodial]

Which brings up the question, Who trains the police?



He either does not know the law, or has obviously broken it from allegedly taking up office!

Or better yet, who misleads and misinforms the police? Or .. who indoctrinates with police for Metro? Likely, he knows the law but does not want to be under any law (i.e. men of lawlessness).

[Christopher-T:Farley]

Allodial,

Wow, interesting. I had someone tell me once that there was a cop in a traffic stop and was dealing with someone who didnt have his head up his ass and there was a right to movement card with a number and his friend dialed it once the sovereign was "detained" and some officials showed up and took the policy officer badge and weapon and had to pick it up at the dept of state and the gentlemen was released, I've never saw it first hand. that's really interesting though

[allodial]

For the most part, I am ineligible for State ID/licenses--those are for 'residents'. However, though it may be possible to obtain one as a matter of emergency, IMHO it would give rise to undesirable presumptions. So I have avoided such.

You know, that is interesting also, So "it" was serving a parole violation, and to sum it up "it" had wrote "void" on the warrant used to detain "it" and filed a memorandum (challenging jurisdiction), affidavit of Truth, demand for set-off, and asseveration and declaration of status sent it certified mail to the clerk of courts. which hasn't been filed yet however have the return receipt. it was released, prior to sending them documents. "it" got another charge and when the magistrate served the paperwork i voided it out and had the prison fax it back, went to court, case dismissed, got released 5 months early then sent the rest, and on a couple occasions has been stopped and nothing comes up when they run my name, however, i didnt file the paperwork correctly and i didnt at the time know about registered mail so im confused. sometimes i feel there is no need to file all these documents to treasury and all that, they already access the account why cant i? another issue is i dont have a state id for it and i dont want one and it complicates things

I am for good order throughout my land. As for crimes/cases, it is important to settle those matters before attempting to 'retire' from the system. As for filing documents, if you happen to be an exempt foreign person it can be helpful to let Treasury know. The State license/ID open up a different door than the IRS tax file--those tend to have something to do with a State Attorney General or a Director of Revenue. However, Treasury now handles state-level debts too. I never did any of that birth certificate A4V paperwork--for lack of a "birth certificate" with my name on it, how can I? I do recall that may I have sent a certificate of foreign status (in connection with 1099 contract work, the company as Treasury agent sent the document to treasury--and no, it was not for Federal employment) to Treasury back in say, 1993. Never had any problems with them.

[allodial]

Wow, interesting. I had someone tell me once that there was a cop in a traffic stop and was dealing with someone who didnt have his head up his ass and there was a right to movement card with a number and his friend dialed it once the sovereign was "detained" and some officials showed up and took the policy officer badge and weapon and had to pick it up at the dept of state and the gentlemen was released, I've never saw it first hand. that's really interesting though

I have heard similar reports from others.

For a long time, I did security jobs on the side (non-employee, private contractor). I worked along side cops for maybe over ten years on a regular basis. It was known that I lack an SSN and a U.S.-State-issued license/ID. One night, a curious co-worker asked me for my ID for a moment, I handed it to him. Some of my police friends were outside with him. About forty-five minutes later, he handed it back to me. I was in a position inside a building. After that night, a rumor went around about me maybe being part of a "witness protection program". I guess whatever came back or didn't come back made them wonder because they could not explain it. I didn't even bother asking. It may have been they ran the ID and it came back with a "do not detain" or something similarly foreboding--and that made them wonder.

Is it a magic trick? Is it smoke and mirrors? At the least there is this thing called: right of avoidance. There are police who love looking to Romans 13 as a basis for their power. Thing about Romans 13, it is applicable to police too. The covenant they take requires them to remain intra vires. It is implicit to every oath of office that you stay intra vires at all times. They are required to obey the higher power. I am unaware of being involved in any crime ever.

P.S. I made a 'public registration' to clarify my status as a courtesy so that government actors would avoid confusing me with someone (or something) else (that would have been in the early/mid 90s). I had rogues attempt to undermine that only to have them shut down by judges.

[Christopher-T:Farley]

You know, that is interesting also, So "it" was serving a parole violation, and to sum it up "it" had wrote "void" on the warrant used to detain "it" and filed a memorandum (challenging jurisdiction), affidavit of Truth, demand for set-off, and asseveration and declaration of status sent it certified mail to the clerk of courts. which hasn't been filed yet however have the return receipt. it was released, prior to sending them documents. "it" got another charge and when the magistrate served the paperwork i voided it out and had the prison fax it back, went to court, case dismissed, got released 5 months early then sent the rest, and on a couple occasions has been stopped and nothing comes up when they run my name, however, i didnt file the paperwork correctly and i didnt at the time know about registered mail so im confused. sometimes i feel there is no need to file all these documents to treasury and all that, they already access the account why cant i? another issue is i dont have a state id for it and i dont want one and it complicates things