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    We had a couple small splinter groups in other parts of the country who had not used the lawful money language on a couple hospital presentments, one of them when was billed and refused service went back and tendered the bill back with a copy of the Certificate of Live birth, he presented it as a gift and told them the name is ward of the state, from that point on they were about falling over themselves to offer any service they could additional. He needed a triple heart bypass surgery and it was given to him and he never seen a bill after that. This was in Ohio

    The other man his wife had been in the hospital because of cancer, she had died after all the treatments and they presented him with a bill of a little over a quarter million dollars. He did the same thing as the first guy did and never seen a bill again.
    This was in Texas.

    The reason I keep posting that is the connection I mentioned this weekend about the licensing, the hospitals are chartered by the state, the state is the one putting up the faith and credit for the name, look at it again, what do you suppose " elsewhere " means in the last sentence ?
    What I am proposing here is that the hospitals were not doing business with the man, the man just had " use " of the name, the hospitals were doing business with the state, because they are licensed/chartered by the state to do business. " Usufructuary "

    I know your next question is going to be for the scientific proof, but I talked these men and they do not want to put any of it on the Internet. Sorry I cannot provide, but you asked. This new text they are using for presentments attached here is the only thing they would provide:
    GIFT TAX STAMP_5.doc

    replevin bond
    : a bond given by a plaintiff in a replevin action to cover losses to the defendant or court officer seizing the property in the defendant's possession and transferring it to the plaintiff in the event that the plaintiff loses the case
    Last edited by motla68; 08-22-11 at 03:37 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by motla68 View Post
    We had a couple small splinter groups in other parts of the country who had not used the lawful money language on a couple hospital presentments, one of them when was billed and refused service went back and tendered the bill back with a copy of the Certificate of Live birth, he presented it as a gift and told them the name is ward of the state, from that point on they were about falling over themselves to offer any service they could additional. He needed a triple heart bypass surgery and it was given to him and he never seen a bill after that. This was in Ohio

    The other man his wife had been in the hospital because of cancer, she had died after all the treatments and they presented him with a bill of a little over a quarter million dollars. He did the same thing as the first guy did and never seen a bill again.
    This was in Texas.

    The reason I keep posting that is the connection I mentioned this weekend about the licensing, the hospitals are chartered by the state, the state is the one putting up the faith and credit for the name, look at it again, what do you suppose " elsewhere " means in the last sentence ?
    What I am proposing here is that the hospitals were not doing business with the man, the man just had " use " of the name, the hospitals were doing business with the state, because they are licensed/chartered by the state to do business. " Usufructuary "

    I know your next question is going to be for the scientific proof, but I talked these men and they do not want to put any of it on the Internet. Sorry I cannot provide, but you asked. This new text they are using for presentments attached here is the only thing they would provide:
    GIFT TAX STAMP_5.doc

    replevin bond
    : a bond given by a plaintiff in a replevin action to cover losses to the defendant or court officer seizing the property in the defendant's possession and transferring it to the plaintiff in the event that the plaintiff loses the case

    Actually since other members are enjoying and thanking you, I will lighten up about proof. The examples you speak of here are with hospitals and medical services coming under the penumbra of eleemysonary trust organizations.

    Proof? I have a lot of examples - I think an old thread or Download - something about Inside David Merrill's Head. I don't really try to prove things over the Internet either but you might take up my lead about showing us graphic examples, assuming you would like to please me.







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    I can understand why you would cross out item #4, but not items #3 and #6 , this seems to be refusing both private and public services at the same time?

    Thank you for the info on what type of trusts, will look into that more. My initial discoveries back in 03/04 were from finding something called the Hill Burton Act in which I pretty much forced the hand of a hospital to setoff a debt. The general information of this act only gives a certain exclusivity for being able to do this, BUT after reading the Act itself I found that " any " hospital receiving federal benefits must adhere to the rules when servicing indigenous peoples, a copy was provided of the Act and also a copy showing the proof to them that they did received federal benefits they did setoff the account and sent me a bill showing a 0.00 balance. I figure they just did not want to go through the hassle of dealing with that and me finding something else if it failed or something. The name has been flagged somehow because they have not billed me for any other time after that, even when I had to bring my son in a couple times.

    After telling these guys what I had done and the other success we had more recently they came up with their own plan of action.

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    #3 is the acceptance of benefits from the hospital sharing information. I bring that back to Traditional Doctor/Patient Confidentiality.

    #6 I figure that there is no need to limit the amount I should recover for damages to less than what a jury would award me. Their defense attorney would say, Look he is limited to only so much money!


    I think you make trust too complicated, consistently. For one thing you are wasting your breath to try explaining the trust structure to an attorney - even if you are right. He is a professional for knowing what the trust structure is beforehand - even if he is wrong. I do not listen to you simply because you give me a headache every time I do. If I cannot understand the trust structure then it is not. I cannot trust something I do not understand.

    In most instances the only trust that is there, signed by the moving party or judge presiding over the matter is the one that is signed - the Oath of Office. Therefore the entire trust structure above on the Treatment and Consent Form is what is there on the paper. Some of the agreement was disagreeable to me so I scratched it out. The charter is still in place. This particular hospital is easy to deduce to be a City owned hospital. That is to say METRO organization. But they are all within the same trust system for accepting (endorsing) the same private trust (private credit). IN GOD WE TRUST. That is why one cannot swear without resorting to the Name of God for authority within the same sentence.


    You can try messing with the readers' collective mind with your public and private descriptions but it is meaningless. The parameters are not defined by you. You do not get to set the parameters of the trust unilaterally, ever because you have to trust some other party and you don't get to tell any other party what to think beyond the agreement. Maybe some of the readers will enjoy you trying to make that distinction. The charter describes the trust, and the survey describes the boundaries.


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    is anyone capable of answering my question?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AllanNR View Post
    is anyone capable of answering my question?
    A mistake can be corrected at any time, so why worry about it?:

    http://www.lexisnexis.com/lawschool/...rim/crim18.htm

    Good education is about the experience, not some scripted goal manifested by the public school system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by motla68 View Post
    A mistake can be corrected at any time, so why worry about it?:

    http://www.lexisnexis.com/lawschool/...rim/crim18.htm

    Good education is about the experience, not some scripted goal manifested by the public school system.
    well this is what went down

    I went there on the scheduled date.
    Prosecutor sits me down and offers me a plea deal.
    I tell him that it is my intention to settle this matter honorably and that Im fully aware that pleadings perfect jurisdiction.
    He tells me that I am taking up way too much of his time when I had only been sitting there 30 seconds.
    Asks me if Im going to take the plea deal or not, I give him a look and before I can say anything he crumples up the agreement and chucks it in the garbage and says in an angry tone, "We will go to trial".
    I get up and walk out, I wait to see the "judge", ask her the question about pleading perfecting jurisdiction to which she replies negatively by saying that my getting a ticket in that town is what gives the court jurisdiction. I then ask if the court is ready to come forward with a competent fact witness to which she replies, with a smirk "this is not a civil case". She then says this case will be adjourned so the officer can be called in to testify. I reply that the officer cannot be a competent fact witness because he is acting as a third party. she ignores this and keeps insisting that the case be adjourned. Then proceeds to tell me that she would be entering a not guilty plea for me, to which I object by saying that I haven't plead to this court. She replies that I dont have to and keeps saying have a good day. At that point I just turned around and walked out. Now I have a notice for a month from now to appear for this trial.

    thoughts?

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    Refuse the Notice for cause timely (72 hours). You best have an evidence repository in the USDC. Then show up at the hearing and ask if the R4C is in the record. You are here to help settle the matter honorably and wish to avoid any fraud upon the court.

    However you got a ticket and your driver license, if it identified you by the legal name to be trustee will stand. So you will only have a little window after conviction where you get allocution. You get to speak on the record when the judge asks, Do you have anything to say before I execute this sentence?

    The driver license functions as about $250 Bail Bond. Showing it is the reason you were not jailed until you can scrape up the bail bond. It was presumed to be worth about $250 to you to have evidence you get that privilege from the State.

    Otherwise, the county court judge is basically allowed to practice law from the bench. Ergo she took power of attorney on the driver license identification. Therefore renew your driver license, sign it First Middle only. When you hand it to an officer specify, I am not showing you this for identification purposes. My name is First Middle like you see there.

    Plead out, likely the DA is bluffing with that puffy display. They want you to get out of their face. Learn about identity, record-forming and redeeming lawful money. Then this sort of thing will never get to court unless you are caught red-handed stealing or whatever.



    Regards,

    David Merrill.

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    so i guess you're saying im screwed and just have to take this one?
    what would happen if I put the redemption verbiage on these tickets and mailed them back to the court via certified mail?

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    Claim fraud by omission. Blame the bank tellers, your civics teachers, parents etc. File a counterclaim, maybe in the same case file. Stuff like that.

    You can try all sorts of stuff. My point was that you are headed down the path you are for a reason. It is never too late to start.

    When I was inexperienced the judge convicted me, sentenced me and then for no reason left the courtroom. She came back and remanded me to jail for 120 days. I was to conclude business and leave but the courtroom was full of deputies. If I had only known what I do now I would have tried it. I still think the deputies would have stopped me from leaving though. It would not have been on the record but it was so late, and under the circumstances they had snipers on the rooftops to protect the jurors. They still keep an armed escort on me every time I am in the courthouse, at all times.

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