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I don’t understand your question salsero “What make you believe you are a party to the US Constitution?”


OK then as far as the constitution goes in Section 10 who said that the corporations have been/ are not doing this already? The front desk help don’t even have an answer.

But what I do know is that 22 others states are.

"Did you sign on to that document"? No I was not invented yet.

But the good news is Obama is raising the minimum wage for federal contractors from $7.25 to $10.10; he will sign the executive order Wednesday, February 12, 2014 in the East Room of the White House, (after) (“caviar” from the estuaries of Illinois (?)”, Colorado beef, 12 varieties of potatoes, “Winter Garden Salad,” consisting of “petite” radishes and carrots with red wine vinaigrette with hint of honey from the White House beehive, chocolate malted cake with bittersweet chocolate, tangerines, à la mode” vanilla ice cream) “BUT” Because the measure applies only to new contracts, have said it will affect just a few hundred thousand workers, where Obama is also calling on Congress to pass Democratic legislation to raise wages for all workers to $10.10. Is this in lawful money?

Now my question to you salsero is where are you going to get enough gold and silver to back a 17 Trillion dollar economy anyways?
I realize many people do not understand. You are either a wo/man or a person, ens legis, estate, etc. The government presumes you are a person. You have the right to be recognized as a person. You are a person by and through your consent. You can not be both a man and a person [in law]. If folks do not agree, OK. You are entitled to believe what you want.

Declaration of Independence - last line "And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor." Who is the we? What is being mutually pledged? Whose life fortunes, lives and honor? Does this all pertain to you?

You asked about the gold and silver. OK, if you are a party to the constitution, do you have constitutional rights? If you so consent to be a person with man-provided rights and benefits subject to liabilities, then you MAY have the right to demand gold and silver. Good Luck.

I or the supreme court are not aware you are a party to the constitution: Paddelford, Fay and Co v Mayor and Aldermen of City of Savannah, 1854: But, indeed, no private person has a right to complain, by suit in Court, on the ground of a breach of the Constitution. The Constitution, it is true, is a compact, but he is not a party to it. The States are parties to it. And they may complain.”

Why do I need gold or silver to back a $17 trillion dollar fictional economy? Who is the source of "that economy"?

"Federal Reserve notes are not redeemable in gold, silver or any other commodity, and receive no backing by anything This has been the case since 1933. The notes have no value for themselves, but for what they will buy. In another sense, because they are legal tender, Federal Reserve notes are "backed" by all the goods and services in the economy." http://www.treasury.gov/resource-cen...al-tender.aspx

Looks like gold and silver are not backing the economy but rather it is backed by all the goods and services [could this be by all the men and woman who actually do the work?] WHILE OTHERS "PROFIT" FROM THE SLAVES?

When man stops putting his "trust and faith" in paper/gold/silver and puts his trust and faith in God, things will be a changing for the better on planet earth.

I am not looking to debate with anyone anymore. Either you believe the Creator created everything on this planet and has given everything FREELY to every man to be used or you believe that man is the authority and creator and gives to other men with exchange of "money". Just because "someone does not get exactly what I am saying" does not equate that I am wrong.

If you believe gold and silver need to back an economy that is man's concept of value and men must accept, agree and acknowledge this true. Go file a lawsuit and see how far you get. I think some folks forget who made the gold and silver and how does ANY man decide to claim that as his since he did not create it in the first place.

I am not looking to be right and make anyone "wrong" - but sometimes, we have to "think" a little bit and ask ourselves what is it we really want? If you want to own and be the boss, great go for it. If you want peace, and be productive and have equitable [under bankruptcy] relief, then go for that. I really do not see the both working very well together.