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    One thing is that the "earth" and the Earth aren't the same. The earth (synonymous with 'the land' --land can be synonymous with 'estate') is a generic term for a land or expanse of land or territory. The "earth" is not by default a reference to a planet--clearly a planet is also inclusive of seas, river and sky rather than soil or dry land alone. The Earth is a name for a planet a/k/a or f/k/a "Terra". This is important as there are those who deceptively expand the term "earth" to mean far more than it does--i.e. it is taken out of context for deceptive purposes by some especially as pertains to the Holy Bible. If your uncle gave you "the entire earth" in his will with the term "earth" referring to his entire expanse of land, wouldn't it be quite a deception to get others to believe that he meant the entire planet? Imagine if you and your brothers or sisters could convince others to fall for it.

    Quote Originally Posted by walter View Post
    Unam Sanctum
    [url]The bull also declared that the Church must be united, the Pope was the sole and absolute head of the Church:
    “ Therefore, of the one and only Church there is one body and one head, not two heads like a monster.[6] ”
    Regarding the term "the Church", what is being referred to might be the "Church of Rome" rather than an all-encompassing term referring to Christ's lawful assembly wherever they are. The word 'bull' is much the same as the word "bill" (used by legislative assemblies) or billet (French term but also used for military orders) (see also "will"). To knowledge, the Holy See/Vatican and/or Roman Catholic system has two Popes--one is referred to as the "Black Pope", the other is referred to as the "White Pope". Furthermore, 1929, it is said that two entities rose out of the Lateran Treaty (which some suggest to be defective for want of consideration), the Holy See and the Vatican.

    To knowledge Rome neither created the faith or doctrines of the Hebrews nor the that of Melchizedek. Rome didn't arrive on the scene until around 500 to 600 BC.

    The Bible says that Christ is the head of his church. On Pentecost day, instead of power being given to one single man, power was given to those believers present on Pentecost day (i.e. they were endued with power from on high). Anointing and were known of and practiced before Rome ever existed.

    Furthermore the term "Christian" is known to be used to refer to two distinct groups: (1) the followers of Jesus Christ were called "Christians" at Antioch (see book of Acts)--the term Christ to knowledge is relate to the term 'anointing' (metallic crowns might be an attempt to simulate the brilliant and glorious radiance of a strong God-given anointing)---to knowledge they referred to themselves as "chosen of God" or "the people of the way" or "saints" (i.e. holy ones/hagios in Greek); (2) Simonians (i.e. the followers of Simon Magus (from Samaria)) called themselves Christians. Those who hate #1 like to meritlessly and deceptively blend them in with #2 while knowing the truth of the distinction.

    There are authors such as Warder Cresson who make an attempt to link Jesus with the Simonians-called-Christians and who attempt to make the link between England and Rome when in fact non-Roman monarchies and governments existed before Rome got to the British Isles archipelago and the Picts weren't Romans and were converted. Also the Romans eventually lost hold of Britain and never totally gained a foothold on Ireland. Thusly the believers on the organic doctrines could not possibly owe their doctrines to Rome. The Britons and Anglo and Saxon people were on those islands before Rome found those Isles and yet still Rome didn't take it all at first, then lost much of for a while.

    1 - St. Patrick was neither a Roman Catholic nor a Roman Catholic missionary;
    2 - the Roman Empire persecuted the followers of Christ so who can claim Rome or the Roman Empire and true believers had anything to do with one another
    3 - there is much evidence that Joseph of Arimathea and Jesus were at Cornwall or other areas long before Augistine and others arrived
    4 - The Picts were converted by non-Roman-Catholics who had ties to the original believers back at Jerusalem who came to the area called that is now called England long before before 70AD;
    5 - Constantine and the Roman Empire didn't even begin to "embrace" the Christ Jesus until hundreds of years after the resurrection of Jesus Christ--but the some suggest that to have been a ruse to ensare the saints;
    6 - There is much evidence of name Iesua/Jesus/Joshua having significant etymological links and meanings even in the OT --even that the name means 'salvation' or 'savior' or the like in Hebrew (further hints: Joshua the high priest in the Book of Zechariah; Joshua that took the promised land from the Canaanites in the Book of Joshua)
    7 - Ptolemy II was (around 285BC) involved with translating the scriptures long long before Constantine or Augustine arrived--thusly we have very good and reliable manuscripts for the OT books and we have good linguistic proofs for Hebrew/Chaldean to Greek translations;
    8 - the Samarians or Samaritans notoriously called themselves "Jews" though they were not (the term "Jew" could be a reference a Judean or one who was of the tribe of Judah--the Edomites or Assyrians that went to Judea when Israel or Judah were in captivity [Shalmaneser V and Sargon II around 720BC] also called themselves Judeans or Jews);
    9 - the terms "Jew" and "Christian" have been highly subject to borrowings, manipulations and counterfeiting in the past two thousand+ years;
    10 - 1260 years passed from Justinian's decree 538 to the Pope being taken captive by Napoleon's/France's General Berthier in 1798--from 1798 to 1929 the Papacy and the Vatican were regarded to no longer exist or to have lost its political status (until 1929).

    With all the counterfeiting, deception by syntax and obscurement you really have to dig in to get at the truth.

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    P.S. The link-up between Rome and the Babylon and the Chaldean mystery schools as some call it didn't occur until Attalus III (in Pergamum) died heirless and bequeathed his kingdom to the Romans. Julius Caesar may have been the first Roman Emperor who carried the combined Roman and Babylonian monarchies/systems.

    Bible-based saints, people of the way or chosen/elect of God who are called "Christians" are not of the same cloth as the Simonians who call themselves Christians.
    Last edited by allodial; 06-08-15 at 07:29 AM.
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