Birth Certificate - What it is

[allodial]

Sweeping generalizations are at times used to confuse or deceive. I avoid making them. After all, what is your or my circumstance is not necessarily everyone else's. Estates are often formed by declaration or by agreement and may arise directly or indirectly or expressly or implicitly from such declaration or agreement. A claim at the least is a declaration or a notice.

At Least Two Types of States
There are at least two types of "state" as relates to The United States of America.

1. the type of state which formed the United States of America (something tells me that there are not fifty of these--the United States did not form these and thusly does not have the authority a creator has over its creations--its the other way around here)
2. the type of state which was formed by the United States (the Federal Government) for administrative purposes.

Re: type #1
Type #1 is without the United States, is foreign to the United States. These are 'several' rather than wholly united into a Union. AFAIK, never did George Washington as President or as Commander In Chief of the United States have authority here.

Re: type #2
Type #2 aka a "Federal State" is within the United States and might be subject to the jurisdiction of the United States (NDAA, Patriot Act, Federal Reserve system, Social Security Administration, U.S. military bases, persons born subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, plenary power, IRS, the 50 States of the Union, etc.). U.S. Congress and the President of the United States might be construed to be like unto King and Parliament here--and this area is very much limited.

Ignorance or lack of knowledge about the foregoing distinctions has been greatly exploited--not to mention ignored as if not worth learning. The United States itself is a Federal (Territorial) State--it is very much limited in size and scope. The singularity known as the United States is a creature of other states. Some suggest it to have been the creature of the People of the original Thirteen Colonies--but they weren't "People of the United States" and were instead People of Maryland, Virginia, etc. respectively. For example, U.S. State of California is not the same as the de jure California republic (lower case). The 's' at the end just wants to be plural but is more often than not these days a singularity.

Thus the importance of being able to recognize administrative law when you see it. Whenever U.S. Congress passes a "law" (regulations might be called laws at times) that is in any way contrary to "the Constitution", they are acting in an administrative capacity with respect to the the Territory of the United States (type #2)--they lack power to do so otherwise. SCOTUS might know but they aren't going to batanatly say so but such can be readily determined by the language, context and syntax of the "law". America is not the United States. America is not the United States of America.

Related: Matroska doll.

[Michael Joseph]

Sweeping generalizations are at times used to confuse or deceive. I avoid making them. After all, what is your or my circumstance is not necessarily everyone else's. Estates are often formed by declaration or by agreement.

At Least Two Types of States
There are at least two types of "state" as relates to the United States:

1. the type of state which formed the United States of America
2. the type of state which was formed by the United States (the Federal Government) for administrative purposes.

Re: type #1
Type #1 is without the United States, is foreign to the United States.

Re: type #2
Type #2 aka a "Federal State" is within the United States and might be subject to the jurisdiction of the United States (NDAA, Patriot Act, Federal Reserve system, Social Security Administration, U.S. military bases, persons born subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, plenary power, IRS, the 50 States, etc.). U.S. Congress and the President of the United States might be construed to be like unto King and Parliament here--and this area is very much limited.

Ignorance or lack of knowledge about the foregoing distinctions has been greatly exploited--not to mention ignored. The United States itself is a Federal (Territorial) State--it is very much limited in size and scope. The singularity known as the United States is a creature of other states. Some suggest it to have been the creature of the People of the original Thirteen Colonies--but they weren't "People of the United States" and were instead People of Maryland, Virginia, etc. respectively. For example, U.S. State of California is not the same as the de jure California republic (lower case). The 's' at the end just wants to be plural but is more often than not these days a singularity.

Thus the importance of being able to recognize administrative law when you see it.

a trust is a trust. Call it whatever name you choose - like begets like. A butterfly may have white wings and another black - but the kind remains unchanged. The corporation is a subset within a larger set. The Tower is erected upon the principle of Legal.

My scope is larger than something called United States or United States of America - those are mere leaves on the tree. And what of the roots.

de-jure or de-facto : frame the argument. Perhaps one finds he/she argues concerning a limb of a tree but this one has no understanding of the roots upon which the tree relies.

Seek ye the realization of the presence of I AM; Fear not for I AM with the... and then one will walk in the Grace of I AM and not under his/her own labor. For God Is. And there is no want of supply with God.

I can see that you comprehend law boundaries and the People of "name" [a corporation] are not the People of "another name" another corporation.

Shall we walk on and find Providence upon our lives in Grace?

See how some commit adultery? Thinking that they supply out of their OWN strength - they never find the I AM within. I AM the Way. I live by and thru Christ within. Be still and hear FEAR NOT - I AM with you. Take your monopoly game and go play with yourself. I have no trust in man who has breath in his nostrils.

Isa_2:22 Cease ye from man, whose breath is in his nostrils: for wherein is he to be accounted of?

Will you consent to any of those trusts and become subject to their Administration? Knowledge of how to spot a trust and its formation is quite valuable.

When you recognize The Word became Flesh and dwelt with man - then you will see that Immanuel - God with me and you and everyone.

Will you follow the "I" within or some other man made "golden calf"?

Here where I AM - God Is. And to the son that returns a "new robe" was placed upon him [new understandings] and Father said "all that I have is thine". There is no lack of supply with God. There is only lack of faith with man. As man is led like sheep into the carnal and enticed to stay without the Garden of Eden - Within.

Therefore, man learns to lean on Egypt [a shaky reed]. EVERYTHING concerns Trust. But in realization that I the temple of God - sanctify the Gold. I am never apart from God - we are one.

I pray wisdom, I pray courage, I pray understanding, I pray God Is. I need not for God Is. Amen. If you comprehend, then you will see that what I have propounded herein has in no way strayed from the subject. For the created are the liability of the Creator.

Who shall benefit God? Answer that one and you will see. And who shall define or confine God? For God Is. However, in my carnal mind, the self may choose to undertake in my own labor [my own liability] in tort against God. For God Is. So it is my carnal mind that is the Satan. Many would like to personalize Satan - as religion has blinded the eye. Oh they have their literal stories - but clearly the Temple of God is consciousness of man - and therefore what entity might stand in consciousness?

Do you claim all that there is in God? Claim your use rights upon the Earth. Go forth and undertake as a steward but are you forcing me to consent to your dominion? In my experience this is never the case. I AM just as much as the I AM in you. For my part - I hope never to trespass upon God, thus the fictional world of the dead requires that Alice become small.

Girl from the North Country


Leah is very attractive indeed and alluring us to come away from that which we once had. And Rachel sits alone weeping by the well. Understanding that which is within reveals that which is without.

Trust I. Need not I an access easement into Hades. For I in the Living.

Shalom,
MJ

[allodial]

A trust is a type of agreement rather than a "legal entity". It is an agreement whereby one agrees to be bound to hold something for the benefit of another. Trusts are not generally regarded to be an entity in and of themselves. AFAIK, this thread is about Birth Certificates.

Although chemistry and printing presses might be on topic to a discussion about Monopoly game rules, there is a limit. When the diversion obstructs or makes difficult the discussion or discovery of truth then what good is it? Saying "there is no spoon" or "there is no contract" hardly helps people who are bound to a type of voluntary servitude as far as they are concerned. Saying Man to be God doesn't dismiss the significance even the OT places on valid contractual obligations. Encouraging people to err with gross generalizations hardly seems mature or wise.

There are lots of people who play Monopoly and know a lot about chemistry, metallurgy, papermaking, etc. and who know that there is more to life than Monopoly but nonetheless they are playing Monopoly and know it. In a discussion about Monopoly, I could conceivably go on and on about Chemistry and Metallurgy and claim to be on topic because the pieces are made of metal or the inks in making up colors on the board have to do with chemistry but...how far would that go before someone called a mod on me? Of course, I wouldn't do such a thing --because it would tend to hinder getting at the truth. Even though I might not be bound to Monopoly rules in actuality, I would refrain from being condescending to the plight of others who might be--or who might believe themselves to be.

The thread is "Birth Certificate - What it is". No doubt when discussing law or even board games some of philosophy of law might arise and be discussed and even further the discussion of roots of such philosophy whether in the OT or the NT or otherwise might be discussed. But there is a limit. How does the thread relate to Leah?

Related:
Contracts and Covenants by Richard Anthony

[Michael Joseph]

A Certificate is an issue of a trust.

Leah is the emotional intellect which only serves that which is natural. That which the brute beast can see feel and touch. Or to put it mildly put in his hand and observe that he has some sort of Certificate.

Rachel is the Spirit which is unconcerned about such non-sense.

Leah is concerned with flesh, politics, religion and all the rest of the things that keep man preoccupied and without the Straight and Narrow gate. We all have that side of us and we need that side - for it is Leah that likes movies, popcorn and the fleshly things in life. But those who are unbalanced only intercourse with Leah and that is all that they unfortunately can see. Thus looking up from the bottom of the barrel they hold some certificate in their hands and say this somehow defines my existence. It doesn't.

No doubt a trust is a relationship. It can be a noun and a verb. I teach that which is inside a man - know thyself and you shall understand that which is without. Of the two women which one will I trust. Most choose the left hand [leah] which is weak and weary. Some choose only the right arm [Rachel] which is strength. But both are wrong. Jacob served 7 years for both. Balance is the key.

Thus the question is begged why do I care about some certificate, when I have proved to myself that I can travel - even on a Jet plane absent any State issued ID. Convenience one will say - to which I respond "thank you Leah". it comes down to a simple premise does something benefit me or not - if so, can I live with the obligation?

allodial, the term Legal begs a trust. For it begs title and therefore a trust. Law begs a trust for it has a Creator and it is a benefit to those who make its use.

I once Created a trust for certain purposes. I contracted,as Creator with a Board of Trustees to undertake according to the purpose and intent. The B.O.T. purchased the Estate and I transferred the Estate as Grantor. I quit my interests in totality as Creator/Grantor. The B.O.T. issued Certificates upon those who I declared, as Creator, to benefit. The beneficiaries were pleased to find that they knew nothing of what had occurred and they did not have to run the trust affairs but that they would benefit from the stewardship of the B.O.T.

The Beneficiaries hold the Certificates but have zero standing to run the affairs of the Trust. The trust business is run by the trust Officers according to the terms that I Created and were accepted by a Board of Trustees.

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I was not born an American. I was programmed that I was an American. I was programmed that all of this stuff which depends on my thought is real. I was programmed to fear. I was programmed to accept that government is needful. I was programmed that I needed to rely upon other men and trust other men to handle my affairs for me in what is called society. I was programmed to think that some certificate actually has value.

Then I realized that value is a societal perception. Something is valuable if the receiver THINKS it is valuable. Thus I found that i was not able to get State issue licenses for that required my trust. Now my trust is valuable to me and does not require any other to determine its worth. I know its worth.

Therefore I do not lend it or freely grant it in exchange for some piece of paper and some perception of freedom that is only an illusion perpetuated by those within the societal womb fast asleep. Therefore the so called B.C. is moot to me and in fact I know one exists but I could not tell you where it is.

So what is a B.C.? It is a certificate of trust. A noun. Which creates a relationship. But there is man again leaning on that shaky reed [Egypt] - Left Arm - Leah.

Regards,
MJ

[allodial]

A Certificate is an issue of a trust.

Leah is the emotional intellect which only serves that which is natural. That which the brute beast can see feel and touch. Or to put it mildly put in his hand and observe that he has some sort of Certificate.

Rachel is the Spirit which is unconcerned about such non-sense.

Leah is concerned with flesh, politics, religion and all the rest of the things that keep man preoccupied and without the Straight and Narrow gate. We all have that side of us and we need that side - for it is Leah that likes movies, popcorn and the fleshly things in life. But those who are unbalanced only intercourse with Leah and that is all that they unfortunately can see. Thus looking up from the bottom of the barrel they hold some certificate in their hands and say this somehow defines my existence. It doesn't.

No doubt a trust is a relationship. It can be a noun and a verb. I teach that which is inside a man - know thyself and you shall understand that which is without. Of the two women which one will I trust. Most choose the left hand [leah] which is weak and weary. Some choose only the right arm [Rachel] which is strength. But both are wrong. Jacob served 7 years for both. Balance is the key.

Thus the question is begged why do I care about some certificate, when I have proved to myself that I can travel - even on a Jet plane absent any State issued ID. Convenience one will say - to which I respond "thank you Leah". it comes down to a simple premise does something benefit me or not - if so, can I live with the obligation?

allodial, the term Legal begs a trust. For it begs title and therefore a trust. Law begs a trust for it has a Creator and it is a benefit to those who make its use.

I once Created a trust for certain purposes. I contracted,as Creator with a Board of Trustees to undertake according to the purpose and intent. The B.O.T. purchased the Estate and I transferred the Estate as Grantor. I quit my interests in totality as Creator/Grantor. The B.O.T. issued Certificates upon those who I declared, as Creator, to benefit. The beneficiaries were pleased to find that they knew nothing of what had occurred and they did not have to run the trust affairs but that they would benefit from the stewardship of the B.O.T.

The Beneficiaries hold the Certificates but have zero standing to run the affairs of the Trust. The trust business is run by the trust Officers according to the terms that I Created and were accepted by a Board of Trustees.

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I was not born an American. I was programmed that I was an American. I was programmed that all of this stuff which depends on my thought is real. I was programmed to fear. I was programmed to accept that government is needful. I was programmed that I needed to rely upon other men and trust other men to handle my affairs for me in what is called society. I was programmed to think that some certificate actually has value.

Then I realized that value is a societal perception. Something is valuable if the receiver THINKS it is valuable. Thus I found that i was not able to get State issue licenses for that required my trust. Now my trust is valuable to me and does not require any other to determine its worth. I know its worth.

Therefore I do not lend it or freely grant it in exchange for some piece of paper and some perception of freedom that is only an illusion perpetuated by those within the societal womb fast asleep. Therefore the so called B.C. is moot to me and in fact I know one exists but I could not tell you where it is.

So what is a B.C.? It is a certificate of trust. A noun. Which creates a relationship. But there is man again leaning on that shaky reed [Egypt] - Left Arm - Leah.

Regards,
MJ

If I find a thread lacks my interests or is about something I disdain, I have tended to simply not get involved. It might be of high importance to those who participate so refraining from cluttering up the thread is quite an easy courtesy to afford IMHO. If the thread is nonsense why are you participating? That is technically called trolling.

Believe me, to a man who has 5 kids, is working three jobs to pay child support, has a felony arrest and is checking out the site looking for a remedy you are just getting in the way but you think you are helping. There are two threads for religion.

If you have accomplished something with or without a birth certificate that could help others why not post a thread about it under success? If your reply is basically that you reply and don't care about trashing the thread because its about "non-sense" in your opinion to you then you there are many who would consider you to be trolling. If you are not posting to help others, then obviously you would refrain from posting to help but instead would instead post with yourself in mind.

In Gnosticism what is said of a dragon that has wings but has no feet? For some reason, that imagery has come in mind many times when contemplating your posts.

[Michael Joseph]

If I find a thread lacks my interests or is about something I disdain, I have tended to simply not get involved. It might be of high importance to those who participate so refraining from cluttering up the thread is quite an easy courtesy to afford IMHO. If the thread is nonsense why are you participating? That is technically called trolling.

Believe me, to a man who has 5 kids, is working three jobs to pay child support, has a felony arrest and is checking out the site looking for a remedy you are just getting in the way but you think you are helping. There are two threads for religion.

Some come for wisdom others just want the free fish sandwich [five loaves/two fishes]. Some will see that they can rise above and others just want out of the pit they created for themselves. To the point the remedy is that of a concern of trust.

Remedy is between the ears. Whereof is my trust resident? That requires my action or inaction depending on perspective. If I have lodged my trust in another well it will not be hard to see. Accounts will exist everywhere, voting rolls, county registry, etc. My deeds will reflect my trust in implication and my signature may be found in expression. Therefore again the question is begged where is my trust lodged?

Remedy you say? Remedy lies in understanding trust. Trolling you say? Perhaps you are not hearing that which you desire however, I will follow I. Thank you for your contemplation and your patience. There are others who read hereof who are not in that boat. I hope you can appreciate that statement.

I remember meeting a man named Rod Class on North Carolina one day for two hours. He went on and on about this statute and that statute concerning this remedy or that remedy. I sat patiently and listened and after two hours I told him I was unconcerned about statutes and that all of what he spouted might be remedied by a man who understands six simple words "I have no trust in you". To that end, our meeting ended. So be it.

I will step away from this thread. Thank you for letting me know that there is someone who desperately needs to learn about a Birth Certificate.

Shalom,
MJ

[Chex]

I believe what is happening is no one in their right mind would ever think that because of a birth certificate there is someone out there with control of your estate and controlled by a judge.

A judge better have a good insurance policy if one thinks they control your estate.

Where is the proof?

As I asked before where is the contract?

What gives you the right to anything that belongs to me?

Whose name is on it other than mine?

Who gave you control?

Show me the agreement.

[allodial]

I believe what is happening is no one in their right mind would ever think that because of a birth certificate there is someone out there with control of your estate and controlled by a judge.

A judge better have a good insurance policy if one thinks they control your estate.

Where is the proof?

As I asked before where is the contract?

What gives you the right to anything that belongs to me?

Whose name is on it other than mine?

Who gave you control?

Show me the agreement.

I suspect most of us are aware of the prospect of absurdity. But the thread is about getting at what it is--rather than sneering at about how dumb the thread is. However, how much of an absurdity is it to people who have their kids taken from them on a whimsy with the BC as the nexus? There are those who are "in the system" and "in the box". Of those who have posted, who has a vested interest in hiding the truth from them?

Say you post something very insightful and so does someone else then along comes someone who posts three long posts which buries it so that people have to dig backwards and filter through substance to find solid, practical information vs. you don't like the thread or the topic and you just dont post or keep your posts brief as in make your point briefly and get out (otherwise is it not trolling?)

[allodial]

Some come for wisdom others just want the free fish sandwich [five loaves/two fishes]. Some will see that they can rise above and others just want out of the pit they created for themselves. To the point the remedy is that of a concern of trust.

Remedy is between the ears. Whereof is my trust resident? That requires my action or inaction depending on perspective. If I have lodged my trust in another well it will not be hard to see. Accounts will exist everywhere, voting rolls, county registry, etc. My deeds will reflect my trust in implication and my signature may be found in expression. Therefore again the question is begged where is my trust lodged?

Remedy you say? Remedy lies in understanding trust. Trolling you say? Perhaps you are not hearing that which you desire however, I will follow I. Thank you for your contemplation and your patience. There are others who read hereof who are not in that boat. I hope you can appreciate that statement.

I remember meeting a man named Rod Class on North Carolina one day for two hours. He went on and on about this statute and that statute concerning this remedy or that remedy. I sat patiently and listened and after two hours I told him I was unconcerned about statutes and that all of what he spouted might be remedied by a man who understands six simple words "I have no trust in you". To that end, our meeting ended. So be it.

I will step away from this thread. Thank you for letting me know that there is someone who desperately needs to learn about a Birth Certificate.

Shalom,
MJ

No offense intended: I'm not sure how often you might contradict yourself even in the same post. If the birth certificate is evidence of someone having trust in the very thing you trivialize then why not say it and be done? And then if someone makes that point you post long long posts which obfuscates getting to the very point you claim to be making but yet you do not make that point. If its silly for someone to be desperate to learn about birth certificates then why are do you appear to be running interference?

You assert that a NAME or an ACCOUNT belongs to them. I agree and rather than staying on the course of topic, you obfuscate and diverting from the practical and pragmatic. Maybe because you feel you are protecting the truth and keeping others from arriving at the truth because you feel them not to deserve it?

If someone explains to them in terms of statutes, states --maybe that is in terms that they can comprehend and that will lead them to consider the philosophy of law which will then lead them to the truth. Babies drink milk before they get to meat or more solid foods. I knew of a so-called pastor who just about killed so many because he was always serving up steaks (stakes) even to babes--never listening always talking always standing on his Uber Soap Box. He quoted some verse about meat. I replied "But who gives meat to babies?" His eyes watered up and started to break out in tears. For some reason, that came to mind.

Also, I suspect that it helps knowing when you are preaching to the choir and when you aren't.

Re: the topic
If the NAME is theirs and the ACCOUNT theirs maybe they want you to minister to them that it is theirs so that the remedy can be had. Maybe it is that way by design. Hmmm just maybe they provide birth certificates for some other reason than what Jordan Maxwell says.

[xparte]

I recently got a John H Doe in the Mail not JOHN HENRY DOE or John Henry Doe all three are styled for a reason all caps is a bill charge upper lower is private person or common law supposedly and my favourite has to be the vacant office upper lower middle initial scam.when one gets this send it back as its a residency check as Lodi has imparted John H DOE;S A DONT,S a warrant or the offer to settle all those NAMED charges because jurisdiction is lost due to no trust or never claiming and appearing for a NAME warrant first if that gets the court back up and running those same charges start fresh if this fails a letter with a middle initial letter INITIATES THE PROCESS again ONCE YOU THINK ITS YOU or know its them if they convinced themselves that that NAME is you so what send it back as its undeliverable as MJ has more than once suggested. For Me once its on paper its transparent . important is the act and avoidance of becoming that paper accept how Me is the matter and who,s NAMED BRINGS THE CHARGE/ WORDS WHO casts the spell has the spelling and the style of that TRUSTED proceeding massage the words oil the tongue