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    Quote Originally Posted by David Merrill View Post
    You are a victim of Patriot Mythology.
    Yes, I feel the biggest hurdle for me in learning via use of the internet has been the vast amount of misinformation that comes with any small bits of true knowledge. The second is knowing where to find a starting point, and then following an organized path without getting side tracked.

    Quote Originally Posted by David Merrill View Post
    What you call "in commerce" is that you are assumed to be endorsing private credit from the Fed. If you begin redeeming lawful money today for example you can keep your rights in the future, starting now.
    I've began reading into some of that here, as it appears to be the basis of the forum. Like previously stated, though, I didn't really have a starting point on how to ensure my rights would be kept, but now I know where to take my first steps.

    Quote Originally Posted by David Merrill View Post
    So with that suggestion said, I would get into the state constitution and find out about officers and judicial officers - where they file oaths of office. Go there and get certified copies or certificate of fact to the contrary - that no oath is to be found with that clerk.

    If the oath of office on the DA and the Judge are in order then simply hold them both to the law. You get your day in court. If they disobey the law, great! You can use that to convince them, in business to dismiss or give you a real sweet deal and get rid of you. If they have no oaths of office or these oaths are contrary to state law then you can probably abate and they might appear to be ignoring you but at the last minute the same thing; dismissal or a sweet slap on the wrist.
    This is where my inexperience and ignorance will surely show:
    Is it pretty much certain that the clerk won't have a sworn oath, and if this is the case, how does that benefit me strategically?
    When you say "disobey the law," are you referring to the common law as opposed to them conducting things in a maritime/admiralty setting?
    What would be some signs that the oath they took is contrary to state law, significant enough that it would allow me to abate?

    Quote Originally Posted by David Merrill View Post
    The way you are going about this sounds like if you tagged a child cyclist his parents might be stuck with about $12,000 in medical bills. You probably can't keep a good job and such with no SSN etc. (me making rude presumptions). In Colorado you can go without insurance by having $30K in escrow or whatever. The $12K would come out of that account and you would need to replace it pretty quick or go get insurance.

    I am walking you through responsibility.
    The lack of insurance was due to the lack of registration, and my not being able to find a way to have the former without the latter. I did see similar methods to the escrow account you mentioned, but I wasn't able to find exactly how they worked. I agree keeping insurance on the car is in everyone's best interest.

    Quote Originally Posted by David Merrill View Post
    If you sign your new driver license "James." with a period behind it then when you present it you say, I am not identifying myself with this card, my name is James, like you see how I have signed it. Keep the card in the glove box and tell the officer you are just showing the card to prove competency so he knows roadside you have an active valid insurance policy. Transfer the car into your true name, if possible but use a Redeemed Lawful Money stamp from now on with your signature and whenever you are feeling compelled to sign something on a digital pad write, "Lawful Money." Just like that - no scribbling, no cursive.
    The bolded was the basis of the thread I've been reading through, but it seemed that everyone already knew the background on this strategy so it wasn't elaborated on, whereas I'm still clueless. Would the officer not be able to make any positive identification simply because I've stated this, and if so, what is the advantage here? Could I not be issued a ticket/citation due to the officer not "knowing" who I am? Could they still not demand an identification of some sort if they wanted to, without repercussions on my end?

    Quote Originally Posted by David Merrill View Post
    Get the stamp from Tim at Quality Rubber Stamp (719) 635-0943:

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    This non-endorsement removes you from the Federal Reserve districts - extraterritorial jurisdictions like METRO organization. That will sink in later.
    Are Federal Reserve districts different than, say, the "Federal Zone" as a jurisdiction that one is [this may be misinformation I've picked up] assumed under if they have an address bearing a zipcode for example? There seems to be so much territorial overlay (the x,y,z coordinate analogy I've read on the board) and I'm still trying to figure out all the 'players.'

    Quote Originally Posted by David Merrill View Post
    Go get the driver license signed "James." - large as you can on the pad. Go get insured for the car, and get the Title transferred to you - to James if you can. I signed a special affidavit - ONE IN THE SAME PERSON. It had my FIRST MIDDLE name with FIRST MIDDLE LAST legal full name. This is key. While signing for the Title transfer use the stamp and when they want to know how much you paid for the car tell them that is "Private". This way the property tax will be $0. You will still pay bridges and other roadway taxes but then again you will be using the bridges and roadways so...

    Go get your car.

    Go to the arraignment and beg for forgiveness. Show them all the papers and let them know that you are responsible and your days as a patriot nutjob are behind you. They might be so happy as to let you walk away - charges dropped.
    I shall hope for the best and prepare for the worst I suppose.


    Quote Originally Posted by allodial View Post
    Lack of a plate or US DOT # on a car is akin to lack of a flag on a ship at sea--pirate status presumed. Roads are treated as 'rivers' and the term 'road' it is suggested originally was used to describe a river used heavily for commercial purposes.
    I see. It seems like allegiance to a flag is then mandatory, and being independent on the seas without feasibility?

    Quote Originally Posted by allodial View Post
    Titles and such are likely only issue to 'residents'. The term 'personal conveyance' is not synymous with 'private automobile'. Law dictionaries are extremely handy. Once you titled it, you placed the owner and the property "in this State" and likely subscribed to a whole kit of rules and regulations all at the same time.
    I had figured that titling it in the State would have its issues, but I had hoped they would retain more rights overall than a full registration.

    A big question for me here is, just how do I find out what I do exactly subscribe to when I sign a car title or any other form that doesn't have its full disclosures right there in front of me? Do I need to backtrack who issues what, and request that information? Would they even be compelled to give me such info?

    Quote Originally Posted by allodial View Post
    How can pixels on a screen be you?
    I agree, but I fear that this would be a loophole that a court would not recognize in my favor.

    Quote Originally Posted by allodial View Post
    If you notified them that you'd be reserving your rights then you could conceivably notify them of that. But there are things that preceeded that night that you didn't take care of. I wouldn't take an adverse stance towards the cops. Instead, consider the paper trail you created or failed to create to help swing things in your favor.
    The paper trail has being weighing on my mind just as much as the court date, as it will still loom even as court passes. As mentioned above, I'm still trying to figure out how to fix all of that. I am admittedly hesitant as I fear that a misstep in proper 'order of operations' could leave me in a 'no man's land' so to speak, where I can't move forward or backward legally.

    Quote Originally Posted by allodial View Post
    Some caution against taking action when lacking wisdom. Knowing/deciding who you are is most fundamental. Anyways its worth figuring out:

    1. Are Certificates of Title ever issued to non-residents?
    2. Are State ID cards or State driver's licenses ever issued to non-resident?
    3. What does 'surety' mean?
    4. What is an 'adhesion contract'?
    5. What is the difference between a police officer, a conservator of the peace and a peace officer?
    6. What is the difference between policy enforcement and law enforcement?
    7. What is the difference between a municipal corporation, a city and a county?
    8. What is the difference between residential, commercial and private property?
    I will be sure to look over all of these points in order to strengthen my overall comprehension on the topics discussed throughout the forum.

    Quote Originally Posted by allodial View Post
    They presume James paid for everything with FRNs and has willingly pledged all of his assets to back commercial investments of the FRB and Lehman Brothers, etc.
    How many 'degrees of separation' does payment with FRNs extend? For example, when I titled the car it was "gifted," but at the same time I'm sure the original owner paid in FRNs. If a merchant buys its goods in FRNs, and I then use to lawful money to acquire the product from them, is the item still pledged back in any way?



    Quote Originally Posted by ag maniac View Post
    Well James....seems you might have missed your calling......60 miles west --> Bird-in-Hand, Paradise, or Intercourse, Pennsylvania.....take your pick

    I've often wondering about the full details of the relationship between the State and the Amish communities, in regards to jurisdiction and law. Maybe when I get things all in order I could find peace in a simpler way of life; who knows?
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