I was thinking about this the other day.Originally Posted by allodial
The SSN is to identify an account and while it is never to be used for identification purposes the IRS calls it a Taxpayer Identification Number.
You are still talking about the check to the broker? I told you I have little experience with that. But it looks like a good demand; like you understand many aspects of paychecks that have been pointed out on this site.
Yep. AFAIK the IRS does not 'see' "social security accounts numbers" they 'see' "tax ID numbers". My study of the IRS specifications for e-filing or the like revealed lack of any computational distinction between an "EIN" or an "SSN" entered on a form or into a database. Since a year or two such may have changed for some reason or another. The IRS, a bureau of the U.S. Department of the Treasury, does appear to maintain some kind of link between the IRS and SSA for verifying whether an SSAN exists. AFAIK, the IRS and the US Department of the Treasury are wholly separate from the U.S. Social Security Administration. While the digits of the SSAN might generally be the same as that of a US tax ID or account # established with the IRS, they are not at all the same accounts and there is no inherent link between the two accounts. The IRS account would likely never, ever exist if a SS-4, 1040, W2 or W4 was never filed.
Last edited by allodial; 02-07-12 at 01:40 AM.
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Yes, I am still talking about the check to the brokerage firm.
Thank you, David, for your validation of my demand -- I think I may use it.
Last edited by freedave; 02-08-12 at 03:13 AM.
Is the validity of this remedy supported by anything more than the one sentence from the statute?
Yes. The 'saving to suitors' clause and structure of the districts on the states. If you choose to live in the fiction then that is your state - this state. It is all a state of mind anyway. We do not see a line between Colorado and Wyoming on the ground; only on the map. But you cannot grow a potato in a map!
I explained it yesterday: Click Here. If you choose to accomodate the district and Fed then your endorsement of their existence under your feet, between you and the land suae potestate esse is published.
Last edited by David Merrill; 02-10-12 at 03:04 PM.
This is way beyond my familiarity with the subject.
Then please try this.
Validate the one sentence with its context.
I assume you mean, "Validate one sentence with its context."
In a confusing text, I do normally try to do find one part I can understand enough to proceed forward.
I am not able to do that in this case.
I have found that in discussion groups similar to this one, there is not too high an importance on making the subject easily comprehensible.
If the subject is valid, that is a very great underestimation of importance.
I had hoped to give this a try on the check have been holding for two weeks...
Last edited by freedave; 02-13-12 at 07:47 PM.
http://admiralty.uslegal.com/saving-to-suitors-clause/
DISTRICT. A certain portion of the country, separated from the rest for some special purposes. The United States are divided into judicial districts, in each of which is established a district court; they are also divided into election districts; collection districts, &c. (Source)Hand-book of the Law of Bills and NotesACCOMODATION, com. law. That which is done by one merchant or other person for the convenience of some other, by accepting or endorsing his paper, or by lending him his notes or bills.
2. In general the parties who have drawn, endorsed or accepted bills or other commercial paper for the accommodation, of others, are, while in the hands of a holder who received them before they became due, other than the person for whom the accomodation was given, responsible as if they had received full value. Chit. Bills, 90; 91. See 4 Cranch, 141; 1 Ham. 413; 7 John. 361; 15 John. 355, 17 John. 176; 9 Wend. 170; 2 Whart. 344; 5 Wend. 566; 8 Wend. 437; 2 Hill, S. C. 362; 10 Conn. 308; 6 Munfd. 381. (Source)
Kinds of endorsement
This getting deeper into several areas mainly American Admiralty/Maritime Law, negotiable instruments, and Lex Mercatoria.
Last edited by shikamaru; 02-12-12 at 01:10 PM.
Thank you shikamaru. That's interesting about the different endorsements.
I'm sure the "Hand-book" is interesting too, but I easily fall asleep even without trying to read it.
This is probably why most people would rather be enslaved than to have to read stuff like that in order to fight off the bankers and lawyers.
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