Redeem From Public To Private Venue

[tommyf350]

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Here we disagree. God does not know time. I do not see God as judgmental or condemning. The Creator can not be that which he is not. God IS infinite Love, Divine Holiness, Immutable Law and much more than we can ever possibly comprehend.

When a "Soul plants a seed, he reaps what he has sown". God does not the balance the scales, the soul, consciously or unconsciously balances it out however it needs to be balanced out in accordance with immutable law. This is why we have the duality. When the soul is not aligned with its Creator, this is the error and there are consequences. Take note, I did not say good or bad consequences - as all consequences are just learning tools or journeys back to the Divine. Since we are God's property, we can NEVER be lost. It just appears that way.

The teachings of Christian Science, Hoponono and A course in miracles - to name a few have a different spin on Life. I suspect the bible has the same ideas when viewed from a different metaphysical observation.

You are on to something.
Dualism gives foothold to deception, I believe. Of course im learning here, like everyone else and im glad about that. Perhaps this dualism is simply a misconception giving birth to further misconceptions like the fiction of a state and rulers with divine rights also Public or private. The truth is we are all the same and on the same creation /existence. Which is what interests me about this surrender concept or perhaps just stepping aside ? like just putting to record and demonstrating by actions that there is no trust without the use (trust) of state methodology. Since its our belief and use in such fictions that give jurisdiction what is the point of carrying on those beliefs ? I hope I am not being disparaging to anyone with a different concept and keeping them from exploring it, we are all learning, I think its best to share to draw us closer to a solution.


Shobogenzo - Page 5

"That is, in each training ground of every Buddha as the embodiment of truth, the work of Buddhas find's expression and put into practice down to the smallest detail, as they create for others far and wide the circumstances that help them go beyond the notion of 'being a Buddha', through their vigorous promotion of the teaching that one goes on, always becoming a Buddha. At this very moment ,the lands of the earth with their tree's and grasses , as well as the walls and fences with their tiles and stones, are all seen to be performing the works of the Buddhas. As a consequence all who make profitable spiritual use of whatever storms and floods may arise will be receiving will guidance and assistance in unseen ways from the profound and inscrutable instructions of the Buddha's, and they will give expression to their innate understanding, which is every intimate with the Truth. Because persons who accept and make profitable spiritual use of such floods and firestorms all gladly receive from the Buddhas instruction and guidance on their innate understanding, those who reside with such persons are spiritually conversant with them, in turn, mutually provide for each other with unbounded ,endless virtues of Buddhas and cause the unceasing, wondrous immeasurable dharma of Buddhas to roll forth far and wide until it spreads throughout the whole universe ,both from within and without.
However these persons of whom I speak are not kept in the dark by being wedded to their senses, for they straight away realize the truth by not fabricating anything within the hush of their meditation. If as ordinary people believe spiritual practice and personal realization are two different sorts of things, then each could be seen and recognized separately from the other. Should someone become all involved with his sensory perceptions and intellectual understanding he will not be in the ' realm of enlightenment' because the realm of enlightenment is beyond the reach of delusory ,discriminatory thinking.
Furthermore, even though , amidst the stillness of meditation, someone experiences - not only subjectively within the heart and mind, but also objectively within outer conditions - an 'entering into realization' and a 'going beyond awakening to the truth', because he is in a realm of delight in the truth, he does not disturb a single dust mote or shatter the aspect of 'oneness of all things'.