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    Quote Originally Posted by freedave View Post
    This is way beyond my familiarity with the subject.
    Then please try this.

    Validate the one sentence with its context.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Merrill View Post
    Then please try this.

    Validate the one sentence with its context.
    I assume you mean, "Validate one sentence with its context."

    In a confusing text, I do normally try to do find one part I can understand enough to proceed forward.

    I am not able to do that in this case.

    I have found that in discussion groups similar to this one, there is not too high an importance on making the subject easily comprehensible.

    If the subject is valid, that is a very great underestimation of importance.

    I had hoped to give this a try on the check have been holding for two weeks...
    Last edited by freedave; 02-13-12 at 07:47 PM.

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    Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing ever happened.

    Sir Winston Churchill

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    Quote Originally Posted by stoneFree View Post
    Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing ever happened.

    Sir Winston Churchill
    I've probably confronted far more truth than anyone on this forum, and I could easily give you more truth than you are ready for -- and you would be running from it (figuratively).

    It seems that you're confusing an inability to look at and accept truth because of preconceived ideas with an inability resulting from a convoluted presentation.

    If this remedy is actually valid and workable, then anyone here who is not doing everything possible to ensure that I understand it, is, to some degree, betraying the purpose of creating freedom from suppression on this planet.
    Last edited by freedave; 02-14-12 at 06:36 PM.

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    JohnnyCash
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    Oh, do tell. And can you provide us with any links to your handiwork?

    Redemption of lawful money is working for me; no Income Tax paid since 2007. You may want to just try it, as a skeptic. Except for the cost of taking a picture or copy of your demand, it costs nothing. It sounds like you're looking for Lawful Money for Dummies which hasn't been written yet. But you might just be the author.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyCash View Post
    Oh, do tell. And can you provide us with any links to your handiwork?

    Redemption of lawful money is working for me; no Income Tax paid since 2007. You may want to just try it, as a skeptic. Except for the cost of taking a picture or copy of your demand, it costs nothing. It sounds like you're looking for Lawful Money for Dummies which hasn't been written yet. But you might just be the author.
    Thank you for responding, JohnnyCash.

    Regarding giving you "more truth than you are ready for," I can't provide you with any links.

    Giving you "more truth than you are ready for" would be a harmful thing, and I don't make a practice of intentionally creating harm.

    Your "no Income Tax paid since 2007" link is interesting -- I see you have been a follower of Pete Hendrickson, as I have been.

    My main concern is that if I try the redemption of lawful money endorsement it might trigger some kind of report to the IRS, which I don't need.

    Yes, if I had a good understanding of it, I could write Lawful Money for Dummies.

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    JohnnyCash
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    Guess what? The IRS already knows what you're doing. You gave the SSN/ TIN when you started the bank account. If you mistakenly transpose that SS number, the bank will come back and say "that number has not been issued yet." Federal Reserve Banks and the IRS are fraternal twins of similar lineage. http://www.freedomforceinternational...refpage=issues

    Send me your harmful truth via PM, ten to one you cannot damage me through cyberspace. I have an odd sense that I already know you, freedave, perhaps in a previous life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by freedave View Post
    I've probably confronted far more truth than anyone on this forum, and I could easily give you more truth than you are ready for -- and you would be running from it (figuratively).

    It seems that you're confusing an inability to look at and accept truth because of preconceived ideas with an inability resulting from a convoluted presentation.

    If this remedy is actually valid and workable, then anyone here who is not doing everything possible to ensure that I understand it, is, to some degree, betraying the purpose of creating freedom from suppression on this planet.
    Do it for your self, be your own proof. I have been using and redeeming lawful money since 2009. I have not filed for a tax return after my first year simply because I choose not to do so.

    I know for a fact it does something because any study of Federal/International Bank money from the Civil War and the redemption of "green backs" after that war for lawful money is well documented and known. So impassioned were the people of this Nation on the subject that President Jackson was elected and his main issue was a ousting of International Bankers from control of the money. Even Abe considered international bankers a greater threat to this Nation then the Southern alliance, from his own personal writings.

    As for you having truth that would make me run, well, that one did make me roll on the floor laughing, so thank you. Please, start some threads, because that is what I and others are here for.

    How about a portable Nuclear power device feeding Israel in the wilderness for 40 years and the Priesthood built up to protect and maintain it (and its origin)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by martin earl View Post
    Do it for your self, be your own proof. I have been using and redeeming lawful money since 2009. I have not filed for a tax return after my first year simply because I choose not to do so.
    Just out of curiosity, are you working for someone else, or in business for yourself? If the former, how did you limit your information returns? Did you cancel a W-4 pursuant to 26 CFR 31.3402(p)-1(a), or simply had a competent enough payroll department to understand when you didn't submit one when hired?

    Any details about your work situation would be helpful to the rest of us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sabo View Post
    Just out of curiosity, are you working for someone else, or in business for yourself? If the former, how did you limit your information returns? Did you cancel a W-4 pursuant to 26 CFR 31.3402(p)-1(a), or simply had a competent enough payroll department to understand when you didn't submit one when hired?

    Any details about your work situation would be helpful to the rest of us.
    I was working for a corporation. After the first year of redeeming lawful money, I simply did a W-4 EXEMPT and put "paid in Lawful money per 12-USC 411" on it.

    Just because I paid taxes the previous year (the year I was redeeming lawful money) did not mean I was not exempt from doing so.

    From the w-4 form:

    "Last year I had a right to a refund of all federal income tax withheld because I had no tax liability, and
    • This year I expect a refund of all federal income tax withheld because I expect to have no tax liability.
    If you meet both conditions, write “Exempt” here . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ▶"


    That is the truth, I hade a "right to a refund of all federal income tax withheld because I had no tax liability". I redeemed lawful money, thus the right to a refund, I chose not to get that refund, does not mean I did not have that right. The following year(s) I "expect to have no tax liability".

    The payroll department where I worked then really did not care that I was exempt and there was nothing really said about it when I did it.

    Also, I lined out the "under penalties of perjury" and initialed above before signing True Name DBA ALL CAPS NAME. When asked about those sorts of things, I simply reply "my tax attorney (or accountant) told me to do that."

    That usually ends any more discussion on the matter.

    Not legal advise, just how I did it.

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