UCC 1-308 (formerly 1-207) vs 12 USC 411 and REMEDY

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  • ADBrooks11
    Junior Member
    • Oct 2015
    • 18

    #1

    UCC 1-308 (formerly 1-207) vs 12 USC 411 and REMEDY



    I came across the above website today while "googling" random phrases about lawful money. I'll bet there are a few here that have read this from Howard Freeman. Up until today, I've connected remedy to 12 USC 411. After reading what he had to say, it seems to me he is applying remedy a different yet similar way. Will someone educate me on the difference....if there is a difference? Thanks
  • David Merrill
    Administrator
    • Mar 2011
    • 5954

    #2
    Originally posted by ADBrooks11 View Post
    http://www.barefootsworld.net/sui_ju...onnection.html

    I came across the above website today while "googling" random phrases about lawful money. I'll bet there are a few here that have read this from Howard Freeman. Up until today, I've connected remedy to 12 USC 411. After reading what he had to say, it seems to me he is applying remedy a different yet similar way. Will someone educate me on the difference....if there is a difference? Thanks
    I am not sure about a comparison. Applying the remedy in Canada is an example though, of how the redemption model of Jesus CHRIST is versatile. Also the "old" verbiage of our redemption stamps - and turning in a debt under the SSN as property of the Treasury, the STRAWMAN REDEMPTION and all of it, even the Montana Freeman Comptroller Warrants. Public Office Money Certificates etc.

    Redemption is Forgiveness.
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    • Gavilan
      Senior Member
      • May 2012
      • 352

      #3
      You know, I read that article years ago. It dawned on me now, that the bankers are not the true creditors. It's the people that are the creditors, since they provide the energy to redeem the debt.

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      • Gavilan
        Senior Member
        • May 2012
        • 352

        #4
        Just a further comment, given that the people are the true creditors, it means that the Federal Reserve is nothing more than a giant bookkeeping operation.

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        • martin earl
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2011
          • 153

          #5
          Originally posted by Gavilan View Post
          Just a further comment, given that the people are the true creditors, it means that the Federal Reserve is nothing more than a giant bookkeeping operation.
          that is not correct in my opinion.

          The TREASURY is the Book keeper.

          The Federal Reserve is the creditor. Congress, via the "national budget", is the DEBTOR to the Federal Reserve. The CREDIT is extended to CONGRESS, via BONDS issued to the Federal Reserve on "full faith and credit" of the US.

          The people ONLY come into play when they openly endorse negotiable instruments into Bank currency. The Face value, plus interest (a pre-existing obligation to pay) is then ASSUMED by the man or woman endorsing the debt.

          The "goods and services" produced by all endorsers becomes (via voluntary surrender/open endorsement) pledged property to the Federal Reserve for the repayment of the debt issued. This is expressed as the GDP (gross domestic product).

          The interest on said debt (not covered by the GDP) is then collected as "income tax" on endorsers "income".

          IF everyone in the "US" where to stop openly endorsing their paychecks and bank deposits, getting loans and started demanding redemption per 12 USC 411, at the end of the year, Congress would still be holding the DEBT and they would be on the hook for the entire amount, plus interest. That is what "shall be obligations of the US" means.

          Under the law the ONLY debt that can be re-venued via a signature on a blank paper is a "pre-existing obligation". That is why the backs of check and "bank signature cards" should have a RESTRICTION for redemption. Once restricted, the OBLIGATION to pay the existing debt remains with the original debtor (Congress).

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          • Michael Joseph
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2011
            • 1596

            #6
            Originally posted by martin earl View Post
            that is not correct in my opinion.

            The TREASURY is the Book keeper.

            The Federal Reserve is the creditor. Congress, via the "national budget", is the DEBTOR to the Federal Reserve. The CREDIT is extended to CONGRESS, via BONDS issued to the Federal Reserve on "full faith and credit" of the US.

            The people ONLY come into play when they openly endorse negotiable instruments into Bank currency. The Face value, plus interest (a pre-existing obligation to pay) is then ASSUMED by the man or woman endorsing the debt.

            The "goods and services" produced by all endorsers becomes (via voluntary surrender/open endorsement) pledged property to the Federal Reserve for the repayment of the debt issued. This is expressed as the GDP (gross domestic product).

            The interest on said debt (not covered by the GDP) is then collected as "income tax" on endorsers "income".

            IF everyone in the "US" where to stop openly endorsing their paychecks and bank deposits, getting loans and started demanding redemption per 12 USC 411, at the end of the year, Congress would still be holding the DEBT and they would be on the hook for the entire amount, plus interest. That is what "shall be obligations of the US" means.

            Under the law the ONLY debt that can be re-venued via a signature on a blank paper is a "pre-existing obligation". That is why the backs of check and "bank signature cards" should have a RESTRICTION for redemption. Once restricted, the OBLIGATION to pay the existing debt remains with the original debtor (Congress).
            Exactly. The US Treasury stands surety for the debt. This is 12-USC-411

            According to : The Opinions of the Attorney General of the United States, Vol. 7, pages 747-757, 1856, it is a technical and abstract impossibility for me to be a citizen of the United States.
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            • martin earl
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2011
              • 153

              #7
              By the way, UCC 1-308 MAY be of some value when contracting with a True Name. But if the LEGAL NAME is used, it means NOTHING, since the TITLE to the LEGAL NAME is SOLE PROPERTY of the US.

              One would do well to remember the Birth Certificate was created by an UNMARRIED "MAIDEN"; the new born, by the Witnesses own admission, was born out of WEDLOCK (this is why the Mother listed her MAIDEN name, not the last name of the Father).

              The child is then, legally a BASTARD and "all bastard children are wards of the STATE".

              Next, the TITLE (Birth Certificate) is never claimed from the State Registrars Department. (Some believe this is why the "birth" is published in a news paper, so the STATE can claim an infants TITLE was abandoned at the Hospital and public notice given to so the TITLE to the infant could be claimed by the Mother and Father). After 7 years of the TITLE being held by the STATE Registrar, the TITLE is then salvaged and lawfully owned by the STATE.

              Birth Certificate are special because it has the feet prints of the infant, that is how the Mother and Father could have claimed the TITLE before 7 years, by matching the FEET of the baby to the PRINTS on the BC. I would suppose, this is why extremely rich families always have their own private Doctors so they can claim the TITLES to their offspring and keep their multi-generational estates and families in tact without being subject to international bankers.

              There really is no other explanations for a few family lines controlling the majority of all the wealth on the planet AND why such families can commit crimes and atrocities without penalty of law (in most cases).

              Maybe?
              Last edited by martin earl; 02-01-16, 02:11 AM.

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              • Gavilan
                Senior Member
                • May 2012
                • 352

                #8
                "The "goods and services" produced by all endorsers becomes (via voluntary surrender/open endorsement) pledged property to the Federal Reserve for the repayment of the debt issued. This is expressed as the GDP (gross domestic product)."

                Again, where is the substance/energy to power this credit coming from? From the people, no? So, ultimately it's the people that grant their credit.

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                • ADBrooks11
                  Junior Member
                  • Oct 2015
                  • 18

                  #9
                  I appreciate the replies.

                  I'm brand new at all of this....lawful money, remedy, USC, UCC, True name, etc. There is a mountain of knowledge and understanding in front of me and I feel I have barely taken 1 step up the mountain. I want/need to understand all of this. When I read about law, it is like reading a different language. I have to read things 4 and 5 times to gain even a little understanding. I need layman's terms, but that's not how law is written. It seems to me that it is intentionally written so the layman can't understand it.

                  Does the IRS operate under the USC or is it UCC or something else? Are they operating under Admiralty Jurisdiction? Does remedy get one out of Admiralty and into Common Law Jurisdiction?

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                  • martin earl
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2011
                    • 153

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Gavilan View Post
                    "The "goods and services" produced by all endorsers becomes (via voluntary surrender/open endorsement) pledged property to the Federal Reserve for the repayment of the debt issued. This is expressed as the GDP (gross domestic product)."

                    Again, where is the substance/energy to power this credit coming from? From the people, no? So, ultimately it's the people that grant their credit.
                    maybe we should define "the people".

                    Simply put, if you or anyone does NOT have a recorded demand for lawful money redemption for ALL Bank and money transactions, then they are NOT "the people".

                    Since "the people" do not endorse the Federal Reserve Debt, yes, they are the creditors.

                    Without the demand for lawful money redemption, the endorser is collateral and debtor. There is no "people" without redemption demand/refusal of Federal Reserve DEBT currency.

                    Hope that clears it up.

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                    • martin earl
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2011
                      • 153

                      #11
                      Originally posted by ADBrooks11 View Post
                      I appreciate the replies.

                      I'm brand new at all of this....lawful money, remedy, USC, UCC, True name, etc. There is a mountain of knowledge and understanding in front of me and I feel I have barely taken 1 step up the mountain. I want/need to understand all of this. When I read about law, it is like reading a different language. I have to read things 4 and 5 times to gain even a little understanding. I need layman's terms, but that's not how law is written. It seems to me that it is intentionally written so the layman can't understand it.

                      Does the IRS operate under the USC or is it UCC or something else? Are they operating under Admiralty Jurisdiction? Does remedy get one out of Admiralty and into Common Law Jurisdiction?
                      For now, forget about the "common law" jurisdiction issue. For the Republic, what is more important is CONTRACTS you are or a party to or presumed or assumed by the STATE to be a party too.

                      Every time you give a legal name to someone (written or spoken), you are entering into some of form of contractual agreement. EVERY SINGLE TIME.

                      The IRS operates under IRS color of law, which is all contract law because contracts create JURISDICTION. Contracts (spoken or written and signed) are CONSENT.

                      The Nexus is what is vital in any contract. Nexus is where YOU agree to the contract, either written or spoken or by your SILENCE. Silence is agreement.

                      The Nexus between YOU and the IRS is the use, endorsement and/or non refusal of the Federal Reserve Currency in any form. It is that simple.

                      If you do not refuse (on the record) you are presumed to have ACCEPTED the contractual obligations of any contract offer.

                      If there are words that you do not know the legal definitions for, look them up, but do not get wrapped around the axle with legal definitions, because the definition of any word really only matters if you agree (contract) with the other parties definition. CONTRACT agreement makes LAW, agreement makes contract. Refusal of offers on the record is what matters.

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                      • martin earl
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2011
                        • 153

                        #12
                        double post

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                        • Gavilan
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2012
                          • 352

                          #13
                          Originally posted by martin earl View Post
                          maybe we should define "the people".

                          Simply put, if you or anyone does NOT have a recorded demand for lawful money redemption for ALL Bank and money transactions, then they are NOT "the people".

                          Since "the people" do not endorse the Federal Reserve Debt, yes, they are the creditors.

                          Without the demand for lawful money redemption, the endorser is collateral and debtor. There is no "people" without redemption demand/refusal of Federal Reserve DEBT currency.

                          Hope that clears it up.
                          martin earl,

                          This is what I was trying to comprehend, see, it made sense to me what David Merrill was doing with the demand for lawful money, yet for some particular reason I did not fully had internalized how the people were in essence the creditor.

                          It is truly ingeniously evil how they have engineered such a deceptively system, but I am beginning to believe that it is really made to test the mettle of whom we are, as in if your heart truly is what it shows to be by its fruit.

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                          • David Merrill
                            Administrator
                            • Mar 2011
                            • 5954

                            #14
                            Originally posted by ADBrooks11 View Post
                            I appreciate the replies.

                            I'm brand new at all of this....lawful money, remedy, USC, UCC, True name, etc. There is a mountain of knowledge and understanding in front of me and I feel I have barely taken 1 step up the mountain. I want/need to understand all of this. When I read about law, it is like reading a different language. I have to read things 4 and 5 times to gain even a little understanding. I need layman's terms, but that's not how law is written. It seems to me that it is intentionally written so the layman can't understand it.

                            Does the IRS operate under the USC or is it UCC or something else? Are they operating under Admiralty Jurisdiction? Does remedy get one out of Admiralty and into Common Law Jurisdiction?

                            Welcome AD;


                            The wonderful thing is when you discover that this is all shedding unnecessary conditioning. - Identifying and dissolving commercial obstructions (religion) that are impeding your birthright to the original estate behind an absurd veil that debt has value.


                            Welcome!!
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                            • Michael Joseph
                              Senior Member
                              • Mar 2011
                              • 1596

                              #15
                              Originally posted by David Merrill View Post
                              Welcome AD;


                              The wonderful thing is when you discover that this is all shedding unnecessary conditioning. - Identifying and dissolving commercial obstructions (religion) that are impeding your birthright to the original estate behind an absurd veil that debt has value.


                              Welcome!!
                              There are many videos floating around the net these days propounding that money is created out of thin air and these videos are very good at developing the cycle of the creation of currency; however, what these videos lack in their scope is how the 14th amendment citizen becomes surety for the debt of the United States. That is done thru endorsement. This is why FDR said if we can persuade the men and women to deposit their salary checks into our newly formed trust accounts, then we will have made great progress. Of course I paraphrase but that is very close to exact quote.

                              Slavery is abolished - but if you consent to be bound in debt, then the IOU's represent the energy and labor that the men and women in society [trust] pledge to understand their beneficial relationships. Therefore to say that debt is money is absurd which is clear but understand that who is understanding this system? For that look no further than the mirror. But you don't have to. There is a choice.

                              One will say there is not enough currency in place to pay back the debt. To that end this is just PSYOPS 101. If ten percent of the men and women walked in on Friday and made a demand for Lawful Money - then all the illusions would come to reality.

                              The shareholders of the Private Business Trust called Federal Reserve would not be happy. The obligation of debt would not go away however. What is the end result? WAR.

                              But who cares about WAR - especially when we get to drive fancy chariots and live in castles. Let the future generation pay for the mistakes of the fathers. Do the children inherit the mistakes of their fathers - absolutely. Do they also inherit the good - absolutely. Today is the Day - if you can hear. For today is placed before the reader life and death. For debt is most definitely death. A prison made for the mind.

                              Does this sound familiar?

                              Isaiah 42:22 But this is a people robbed and spoiled; they are all of them snared in holes, and they are hid in prison houses: they are for a prey, and none delivereth; for a spoil, and none saith, Restore.


                              A prison house with no bars. The bars are mortgage payments. The beast mind enslaves the ignorant in death [mort] in a contract [gage] thru lust. For it was desire [Eve] who brought the fruit to Adam [Mind] and said "but baby if you love me you will get it for me."

                              Rom 8:7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.

                              Can we have fair balances? Well many say they are Christian - but not really. They just like to say they are. They don't really trust Christ. Else they would obey. Lets all run down to the church house to get that tax deduction - shall we? Crumbs that Ceasar throws out to the dogs.
                              The blessing is in the hand of the doer. Faith absent deeds is dead.

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