Just a thought, could some Judges don't even know how government works?

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  • Gavilan
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    • May 2012
    • 352

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    Just a thought, could some Judges don't even know how government works?

    While doing some research, I came to notice that there are a lot of DUI / DWI cases about judges:

    Do a google search for "judge arrested dui OR dwi" and you will see.

    Now, I came across this article:



    A state Supreme Court justice has ruled in Warren County's favor in a lawsuit that questioned the county district attorney's office's handling of a driving while intoxicated case.

    Glens Falls lawyer Tucker Stanclift last month filed a lawsuit against the Warren County District Attorney's Office accusing the prosecutor's office of improperly intervening in an Oct. 12 license suspension hearing in a driving while intoxicated case.

    License suspension hearings are civil proceedings, and Stanclift objected to the district attorney's office's questioning of a witness Stanclift had called to contradict a police officer's testimony. Stanclift had sought to overturn the license suspension and establish that prosecutors could not take part in license suspension hearings.

    Glens Falls Judge Richard Tarantino suspended Stanclift's client's license, and Stanclift sued Tarantino and District Attorney Kate Hogan, claiming that Assistant District Attorney Matthew Burin should not have been allowed to cross-examine the witness.

    Justice Robert Muller sided with the district attorney's office and judge, calling Burin's actions "completely appropriate," and finding that the "fundamental fairness of procedural due process would be undermined" if the district attorney's office was not allowed to cross-examine a witness.

    The judge also found the law does not specifically allow prosecutors to take part in the hearing, but it does not bar them, either.


    Hogan said her office agreed with the judge's findings.

    "Judge Muller hit the nail on the head when he said that fundamental fairness requires that the people be provided the same due process rights as a defendant, and denying our ability to cross-examine a witness violates our due process rights," she said.

    Stanclift said Muller's decision will be appealed.

    He said allowing the prosecution to take part in license suspension hearings raises questions about whether such proceedings are civil in nature.

    "I disagree with the finding that a prosecutor can participate in a civil proceeding, as was done in this case," Stanclift said.

    He said the district attorney's office's involvement will likely lead to claims that a person is subject to "double jeopardy" when prosecuted in criminal court for DWI after his or her license is suspended during a civil proceeding after an arrest.
    Like it reads, license suspension hearings are civil matters, think about that for a moment. If you signed the application, you entered into the contract, right?

    Now, don't get me wrong, there are some cases where the judges know and have used procedure to get out of the charges.

    Then, it seemed odd that judges would not have other judges help each other, and guess what, there are judges' associations.



    Clearly they are not the ones in the select circle. If they were, there would not be a need for an open association. The point being, judges are just powerful cogs in the machine of state, even they don't know the most powerful secret.
    Last edited by Gavilan; 06-17-16, 02:52 PM.
  • Gavilan
    Senior Member
    • May 2012
    • 352

    #2
    Going on about associations, there are County Associations http://www.naco.org/

    National Governors Association
    Through NGA, governors share best practices, speak with a collective voice on national policy and develop innovative solutions that improve state government and support the principles of federalism.


    The Council of State Governments
    http://www.csg.org/

    State and Local Government Management Associations

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    • David Merrill
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      • Mar 2011
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      #3
      Equity - neutral arbitrators.
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      • Gavilan
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        • May 2012
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        Amen!

        Thanks be to God!
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        • David Merrill
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          • Mar 2011
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          #5
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          The point that jumps out, but only at a glance, is that Associations have rules and these rules are called bylaws. So if we have Bar Associations etc. then we have conflict of interest in the courtroom environment, at the least. But possibly we have a whole new law boundary being set up.
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          • Gavilan
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            • May 2012
            • 352

            #6
            Originally posted by David Merrill View Post
            I AM Love AM I.

            The point that jumps out, but only at a glance, is that Associations have rules and these rules are called bylaws. So if we have Bar Associations etc. then we have conflict of interest in the courtroom environment, at the least. But possibly we have a whole new law boundary being set up.
            Great point, David. I didn't even think there could be a conflict of interest!

            What do you mean about a whole new law boundary?

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            • David Merrill
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              • Mar 2011
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              #7
              Well, I am considering it probably the Federal Reserve district. But think of things like a homeowner's association or the Bar Association.

              How can you have a neutral arbitrator at the bench when whoever he has prosecuting at the other table is an associate? Well, he must try like hell to get the record to look like you have accepted being represented by yet another associate...
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              • Michael Joseph
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                • Mar 2011
                • 1596

                #8
                Originally posted by Gavilan View Post
                Great point, David. I didn't even think there could be a conflict of interest!

                What do you mean about a whole new law boundary?
                I just had an interesting thought - sue the person - and see who shows up to defend! Since that is a closed law boundary and you can only enter upon invitation, does anybody else see the interesting possibilities. Especially after a Jubilee claim - there is no debtor and evidence is clear - under Motu Proprio an officer of the Public Trust is duty bound to perform else his misdeed is upon his own head.

                I mean if you are not a slave [debtor] then you are not compelled to act, and why then should you not be paid as per other actors [hollywood]? Where are you wages?
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                • Thomas Robert
                  Junior Member
                  • Mar 2011
                  • 4

                  #9
                  please help me read between the lines

                  Originally posted by Michael Joseph View Post
                  I just had an interesting thought - sue the person - and see who shows up to defend! Since that is a closed law boundary and you can only enter upon invitation, does anybody else see the interesting possibilities. Especially after a Jubilee claim - there is no debtor and evidence is clear - under Motu Proprio an officer of the Public Trust is duty bound to perform else his misdeed is upon his own head.

                  I mean if you are not a slave [debtor] then you are not compelled to act, and why then should you not be paid as per other actors [hollywood]? Where are you wages?

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                  • allodial
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2011
                    • 2866

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Gavilan View Post
                    While doing some research, I came to notice that there are a lot of DUI / DWI cases about judges:

                    Do a google search for "judge arrested dui OR dwi" and you will see.

                    Now, I came across this article:





                    Like it reads, license suspension hearings are civil matters, think about that for a moment. If you signed the application, you entered into the contract, right?

                    Now, don't get me wrong, there are some cases where the judges know and have used procedure to get out of the charges.

                    Then, it seemed odd that judges would not have other judges help each other, and guess what, there are judges' associations.



                    Clearly they are not the ones in the select circle. If they were, there would not be a need for an open association. The point being, judges are just powerful cogs in the machine of state, even they don't know the most powerful secret.
                    This has been widely discussed for over a decade. Why do you suspect they don't know what they are doing or don't counsel one another? Traffic court proceedings are quasi-criminal (case law supports this) meaning they are civil cases given criminal burden of proof (i.e. they are 'criminal cases' when it comes to the burden of proof required but are in fact each a civil case).

                    The Holy See and the Vatican were out of commission until 1929 until they were revived in per the Lateran Treaty (the validity of which has been questioned). Some may hold bar associations and their members to be purveyors of Vatican/Roman Canon Law. With the Original Thirteenth Amendment it may have been that those that pushed for that amendment were aware of certain bar association members being agents or delegates a power foreign to the states of America subsequent to the American Revolution. In other words, some suggest that Canon Law and the modern legal profession go hand in hand. There is a book: Medieval Origins of the Legal Profession.
                    Last edited by allodial; 06-17-16, 11:16 PM.
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                    • Michael Joseph
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                      • Mar 2011
                      • 1596

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Gavilan View Post
                      If you don't love yourself, you do not love God. If you don't love God, you do not love yourself, much less can you love your neighbor.

                      Can you see now, that if you love money, you cannot love God, you cannot love yourself and much less can you love your neighbor... Wisdom, "The beginning of wisdom is this: Get wisdom. Though it cost all you have, get understanding."

                      Amen!

                      Thanks be to God!
                      Gavilan, you will lead and teach many! Shalom, MJ
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                      • David Merrill
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                        • Mar 2011
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Thomas Robert View Post
                        I don't see where the local judge fits into this definition. Maybe be [and of the institutions connected to it?] or [ entities directly dependent on the Holy See] ??

                        My first reaction was exactly this. The doctrine of unum sanctum and citing upon Peter and even Paul being struck blind for three days all direct to a wide belief that all things temporal fall upon this jurisdiction. Roughly speaking the law boundary is canon law and the Nicene Council was the general assembly forming the Laws of the World, so to speak.

                        The very act of a Pope (BISHOP of Rome) declaring that the closed canon is the infallible Word of God verifies and validates itself as a self-written delegation of authority. The Catholic Bible including the Apocrypha while the Protestant Bible has excluded it, and the last chapter of the Book of Mark being edited too, testify to the fallacy of declaring yourself GOD AM I, without having a handle on the act of Creation.

                        The mathematics is simply that since I create an infinite universe with my mind, my mind is infinite. I carry this in my shirt pocket:




                        It is ACIM's (A Course in Miracles) definition of the Antichrist.


                        The strange idea there is power past the omnipotence.
                        A place beyond the infinite.
                        A time transcending the eternal.


                        In other words your lucidity is why you do not recognize the Pope as God.



                        P.S. In other words, I AM authorized the Pope to commence Jubilee. You are welcome.

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                        • Gavilan
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                          • May 2012
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Michael Joseph View Post
                          Gavilan, you will lead and teach many! Shalom, MJ
                          May the peace and grace of our Lord be with you, MJ!

                          Let all be according to His will!

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                          • Michael Joseph
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                            • Mar 2011
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Gavilan View Post
                            May the peace and grace of our Lord be with you, MJ!

                            Let all be according to His will!
                            I acknowledge and accept. Praise Yah.
                            The blessing is in the hand of the doer. Faith absent deeds is dead.

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                            • Gavilan
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                              • May 2012
                              • 352

                              #15
                              I just wanted to continue a wee bit about associations, for some peculiar reason the thought has not left my mind. It occurs to me that by the use of the Birth Certificate you are joining an association, a much larger association; a world wide association.

                              Now, think about this:

                              One day you wake up, and you fully comprehend you are a man created in God's own image.

                              You look around, and you see all these associations/relationships and how they affect you and those around you and even those far away from you on the other side of the world.

                              Then you see that your ancestors bound themselves unwittingly by their actions to many associations that now are demanding you comply to their demands.

                              Even worse, those running those associations begin issuing misleading, convoluted, disparaging, derogatory, etc., guides. e.g., http://www.mschiefs.org/wp-content/u...tro_For_LE.pdf

                              What is a man to do?

                              After giving it some thought, it is quite simple really... Look what the Founding Fathers did: http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/cha...ranscript.html

                              They took one voice and declare what they believed, and served notice to all the World.

                              And BOOM! A new experiment in world politics was born. But how does a nation of men with free will govern itself in a just and equitable manner? Answer, by individual consent.

                              So, what happens when ignorance begins to reign again because of the natural course of life and those that had suffered the experience of injustice and despotism died and were no longer able to assert their liberty?

                              What happens when shrewd men join together to subjugate and exploit their peers? And the less able do not comprehend what has happened?

                              Tyranny, despotism, and eventual autocracy.

                              It seems to always come down to one's associations.

                              So with whom are you associating?

                              If you associate with the Lord, you certainly won't go wrong.
                              Last edited by Gavilan; 06-21-16, 01:24 PM.

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