endorsing and SS.......a big question!

[jesse james]

Have you all considered the conversion, do you covert to U.S. Currency or do you convert to equity? Anyone see the last episode of Little House on the Prairie?
Your using a currency other men created, your using statutes other men created. Watch that episode on youtube and see if this makes any sense to you?

equity is a law form....not money!
Pleae explain

[shikamaru]

equity is a law form....not money!

Technically, it is a remedial form of law deriving from the Law of Remedies.

Depending on context, equity has a financial sense as well.

Equity, in a financial context, is the residual claim or interest of the most junior class of investors in assets after all liabilities have been paid.

[motla68]

equity is a law form....not money!

Maxim: Those who seek equity must do equity

Maxim: Equity follows the law.

[stoneFree]

Typical American Company

So my other employees see FreeMan getting his full $800 paycheck with no deductions, no problems, and naturally, get a little inquisitive. He starts to teach us all about lawful money & this www.savingtosuitorsclub.net website. They want a full paycheck too; can't blame 'em in this economy.

So I call a company meeting. I tell my workers I'm considering cutting loose from the feds but I wish to hear them out. "Does anyone here still want to pay into the federal SS, Medicare, & Income Tax system?"
"NO!" is the resounding answer. Apparently they all have enough "credits" to get the SS/Medicare bennies when they get old, no point paying in more. So that settled it. I started a new LAWFUL MONEY bank account for company use. On Saturday, I dissolved my company with the federal EIN, and on Monday reopened with no federal connection. Of course my customers never knew the difference. But with my workers getting full pay now - whoo doggie - you'd think I was the World's Best Boss.

[Chex]

Key words used were: disclosure pamphlet that comes along with the ssn application.

You’re using statutes other men created: synopsis

Retirement; how is that being employed?

[stoneFree]

Typical American Company

So at daily breaktime we often talk about the economy, the depreciating dollar, the big fraud centered around banking & finance, the inevitable collapse of central banking (a mathematical certainty), which appears to be starting in Europe. We conclude that eventually the unbacked paper dollar will be completely destroyed. I offer to help my workers by paying in the currency of their choice. For convenience Ann wants continued weekly payment in $800 lawful money cash, Freeman wants 20 ounces of silver, and Bob chooses 350 bitcoins. I accommodate them all, making sure the silver & bitcoin are purchased with lawful money.

[jesse james]

So at daily breaktime we often talk about the economy, the depreciating dollar, the big fraud centered around banking & finance, the inevitable collapse of central banking (a mathematical certainty), which appears to be starting in Europe. We conclude that eventually the unbacked paper dollar will be completely destroyed. I offer to help my workers by paying in the currency of their choice. For convenience Ann wants continued weekly payment in $800 lawful money cash, Freeman wants 20 ounces of silver, and Bob chooses 350 bitcoins. I accommodate them all, making sure the silver & bitcoin are purchased with lawful money.

You're so full of it..................it smells clear over here in Iowa.

Nothing more than an attempt to derail this thread. Nobodies replying as they arent listening except you using a different addy.
Very sad!

[stoneFree]

Typical American Company

Iowa HA! 'smatter jesse? Thread not going as planned? Guess you forgot you're supposed to have me on 'ignore'

Of course my employees are overjoyed to be paid with no reporting. Our discussion turns towards the Federal Reserve scam and what can we, as a company, do to help. To help our customers, to help bring down central banking, to help the country. After all, we don't want to be seen as aiding & abetting what is gradually becoming known as a criminal enterprise. We toy with not accepting Federal Reserve Notes /Credit at all. But that seems a bit harsh to start with. We decide to offer a healthy discount, but only if customers pay in NON-Fed Reserve money. For example silver & gold coins and rounds. The discounts are also available when paying with Goldmoney & bitcoin digitally.

[jesse james]

Threads actually very productive. And yes you are on ignore.
Nobodies replying to your post except for you under a different name. Thats sad....it really is!
I dont buy anything you have to say. Your creditability is reduced to derailing this thread. Everytime someone asks me a queation and I asnwer it you pile on more quatloos accusations.
I highly doubt you have employees not wanting the benefit of "unemployment" in this economy.
Lets say you do have employees...........do they realize they arent working towards immediate unemployment and under employment benefits? And if you do have these so called employees what makes you think they wont sign up for unemployment? You only need the last two years of credits to receive unemployment, after that they fall off and arent counted! So after working for two years of not crediting their account they arent eligable for unemployment..................might have some pissed off employees when they find your lawful money theory screwed them out of unemployment.
Do these so called employees understand this?
I'll place bets, if you really do have employees, that is when the SSA does an investigation on you and starts the ball rolling for the IRS to come in and start asking questions that you cannot defend.
See theres my whole reason of being here...........can you defend yourself if and when it comes time?
Its gonna be your word against theirs! And guess what end of the stick you will end up with if you are found talking them into a story about lawful money having no statutes backing it up?
You want to paint me up to be an evil lawyer from quatloos, but to the contrary I'm here asking the hard hard questions that need be answered to defend oneself.
Of course this is if you really do have employees which I highly doubt you do.

There was a case where an employer went to jail, and still serving time, for talking his employees from participating in SS.........simkenia or something like that spelling.

I've read better "see spot run" books with my daughter than your make beleive stories.

[stoneFree]

Typical American Company

So business is booming for our little company, I've had to hire 2 more people. Big Christmas bash every year. I bought major medical insurance for all employees (I pay all the small Dr. bills). I've started stashing away retirement money for each employee. And our NON-FRN discount has been very popular. I've been surprised how much silver/gold our customers have hoarded and are now using as payment. We've been featured in KTFA as "LOCAL BUSINESS HELPS END THE FED."

Freeman pulls me aside one day for a little heart to heart. He warns that with all our anti-FED stuff we might attract the attention of the banking cartel. I tell him that's just conspiracy talk, our little company is really insignificant in the grand scheme. Oh no, he says, they're VERY protective of their monopoly, and that they're now in partnership with government actors. He says he's encountered their minions all over the place, even obscure corners of the internet. Said he even found one posing as a union electrician (electronics degree in aviation) whos been studying tax laws since 1995.
"No way," I say, "that's just beyond the pale."
"Ya way," he says. "You have no idea what these guys are capable of."

[Treefarmer]

So business is booming for our little company, I've had to hire 2 more people. Big Christmas bash every year. I bought major medical insurance for all employees (I pay all the small Dr. bills). I've started stashing away retirement money for each employee. And our NON-FRN discount has been very popular. I've been surprised how much silver/gold our customers have hoarded and are now using as payment. We've been featured in KTFA as "LOCAL BUSINESS HELPS END THE FED."

Freeman pulls me aside one day for a little heart to heart. He warns that with all our anti-FED stuff we might attract the attention of the banking cartel. I tell him that's just conspiracy talk, our little company is really insignificant in the grand scheme. Oh no, he says, they're VERY protective of their monopoly, and that they're now in partnership with government actors. He says he's encountered their minions all over the place, even obscure corners of the internet. Said he even found one posing as a union electrician (electronics degree in aviation) whos been studying tax laws since 1995.
"No way," I say, "that's just beyond the pale."
"Ya way," he says. "You have no idea what these guys are capable of."

That's pretty funny stoneFree; I was wondering where you were going with this

[jesse james]

That's pretty funny stoneFree; I was wondering where you were going with this

A false belief strongly held in spite of invalidating evidence, especially as a symptom of mental illness.

Well Stonefree here going by other names like Johnthetaxist and aka.....Johny Cash cannot provide evidence in support of 411 imposing anything muchless the income tax. He couldnt prove his false beleif in spite my validated Social Security evidence to his contrary.....well he just amuses himself by making up all kinds of stories which I can only guess is dealing with his denial.
I mean I dont really know about this guy. Hes proven himself to be somebody I'd keep at arms length away, so I just put him on ignore and check in to what he has to say every now and then.
I mean really........he has to make up another account under a different name to fool his fellow forum board members to validate made up stories?
Come on........!

Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me and that isnt happening now is it Libre!

[stoneFree]

HA! You're a bigger poser than Al Gore. Remember when he posed in fresh-pressed khakis for that photo-op and tried to chop wood? Now that was funny. Loser.

Well Jesse, DeutscheBank head Ackerman is going down:

http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,797939,00.html

As you may know, he's been complicit in hiding funds for Barack & Mochelle:

http://www.scribd.com/fullscreen/72701447?access_key=key-262kyu7r388ttbdgmjr

That's -1 for the banking cabal and +1 for our side. And it won't be long before it's clear to everyone just who here is delusional.

[jesse james]

HA! You're a bigger poser than Al Gore. Remember when he posed in fresh-pressed khakis for that photo-op and tried to chop wood? Now that was funny. Loser.

Well Jesse, DeutscheBank head Ackerman is going down:

http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,797939,00.html

As you may know, he's been complicit in hiding funds for Barack & Mochelle:

http://www.scribd.com/fullscreen/72701447?access_key=key-262kyu7r388ttbdgmjr

That's -1 for the banking cabal and +1 for our side. And it won't be long before it's clear to everyone just who here is delusional.

I told you before and I'll tell you again on this forum....................banking has nothing at all to do with Social Security and your right to participate in Social Security.
The banks will go down and the imposition and liability found within the Social Security Act will still remain.

[shikamaru]

I told you before and I'll tell you again on this forum....................banking has nothing at all to do with Social Security ....

Try opening an account with a bank sans an SSN albeit the tie in is for purposes of taxation reporting.

... and your right to participate in Social Security.

We concur on this point.