Do you own a firearm? You sure?

[TMI]

There is much debate over firearms and the 2nd Amendment. Listen to this and then think about this next time you hear the rhetoric.

Do you own a firearm? You sure? Listen to it all, but to answer the question, start right at 49:00.

http://recordings.talkshoe.com/TC-74235/TS-708144.mp3

[Chex]

The Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution reads:
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

The subject matter and unusual phrasing of this amendment led to much controversy and analysis, especially in the last half of the twentieth century. Nevertheless, the meaning and scope of the amendment have long been decided by the Supreme Court.

And what was that decision?

California is wrong http://news.yahoo.com/court-tosses-c...200220826.html

[Anthony Joseph]

call your revolver, pistol, shotgun or rifle your property

the only "Amendment" worth citing, for comparison purposes only, is the "ninth"

The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

not only do i believe i have a right to claim my property, the law which binds you, and the principal you represent, agrees with me [cf. Ninth Amendment to The Constitution]

i; a man, retain the right to claim property [revolver, pistol, shotgun or rifle, etc.]

[Chex]

and I agree and shall not be construed.

The Ninth Amendment to the United States Constitution, which is part of the Bill of Rights, addresses rights, retained by the people.

Nice touch AJ.

[shikamaru]

Without having listening to the audio, is not a firearm a cannon or the guy who lights the touch hole of a cannon?

[Anthony Joseph]

if the code, statute, rule, regulation, ordinance, etc. uses a certain word [legal term of art], then i do not use said word(s)

i don't even know what a "firearm" is; i didn't create or right the 'code' that uses such a term, i am not capable of deciphering said code and i believe i am not required to understand it

however, i use my property [cf. 'firearm'] to defend my family against bodily harm, injury or robbery

if it helps to communicate to others what your property is, use a comparison for their benefit only [cf. __________ ].

define, keep and stand upon your own words and rights as man; and, do not harm any other man while doing so

[Keith Alan]

if the code, statute, rule, regulation, ordinance, etc. uses a certain word [legal term of art], then i do not use said word(s)

i don't even know what a "firearm" is; i didn't create or right the 'code' that uses such a term, i am not capable of deciphering said code and i believe i am not required to understand it

however, i use my property [cf. 'firearm'] to defend my family against bodily harm, injury or robbery

if it helps to communicate to others what your property is, use a comparison for their benefit only [cf. __________ ].

define, keep and stand upon your own words and rights as man; and, do not harm any other man while doing so

I've been following your posts more carefully lately, and I'm seeing the wisdom in your approach more clearly. It's simple enough that anyone can wrap their mind around it, yet is true to the value system I most admire. I think it's good to know and understand code law, but as a practical matter, standing as a man is key. I'd like to see millions of people doing it.

[Anthony Joseph]

standing and acting as man, in honor, is key

we need to learn how to conduct ourselves, and our affairs, as such in all situations with full liability for our own actions

we need to learn how to move, hold and keep our courts [man's court as superior to all 'non-man' courts]

it is prudent to know your adversary; however, never pretend to understand the 'legal realm' because you simply cannot

only use the 'statutory/code' realm for comparison purposes only since you are not competent to know it, nor are you a privileged member of that society [card carrying BAR member] to use it; as man, it does not apply to you and yours anyway

contract wisely

[salsero]

call your revolver, pistol, shotgun or rifle your property

the only "Amendment" worth citing, for comparison purposes only, is the "ninth"

The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

not only do i believe i have a right to claim my property, the law which binds you, and the principal you represent, agrees with me [cf. Ninth Amendment to The Constitution]

i; a man, retain the right to claim property [revolver, pistol, shotgun or rifle, etc.]

[Keith Alan]

All men are created equal, and endowed by their creator with certain inalienable rights. We're all equal in the presence of the law.

[Anthony Joseph]

if one looks to, and trusts in, the definitions of others; one is bound, or a slave, to said definitions

if one looks to, and trusts in, 'case law'; one is subject to the whims and opinions of those who create 'case law'

you use '12 USC 136' as a means to understand what man is, or what others may point to as a definition; i only use, and trust in, one source for the definition of man...

Genesis 1:27

So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

by the way, the 'Constitution' is nothing more than a piece of paper

and people are more than one man collectively

what source are you using to etymologize the words used by others?

shouldn't you utilize sources prior to the writing of the 'Constitution' if you wish to offer an opinion regarding the definitions of words used in said document?

do you claim to know the hearts, minds and intent(s) of the creators/writers of that document with absolution?

if you choose to accept "man means animal"; so be it, and i hope it works out for you

[Chex]

Between these two threads Who needs a drivers licenses and Do You Own a Firearm http://undesadspd.org/IndigenousPeop...usPeoples.aspx

The indigenous peoples of the Americas are the pre-Columbian inhabitants of North and South America and their descendants. They were tribes they did not have treaties or declarations until the army showed up.

Indigenous peoples are peoples defined in international or national legislation as having a set of specific rights based on their historical ties to a particular ... http://www.accessgenealogy.com/nativ...ian-tribes.htm

[Michael Joseph]

She has become a great whore. Reference psalms 2

She was a golden cup in the hand of the Lord. But now she is perverted with the doctrines of Nazi socialism. And even worse theosophy.

Reference operation paperclip. She took the Babylonian robe into her tent.

I am fence end. My only hope is to call on the name of the Lord.

Shalom
MJ

[salsero]

if one looks to, and trusts in, the definitions of others; one is bound, or a slave, to said definitions

if one looks to, and trusts in, 'case law'; one is subject to the whims and opinions of those who create 'case law'

you use '12 USC 136' as a means to understand what man is, or what others may point to as a definition; i only use, and trust in, one source for the definition of man...

Genesis 1:27

So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

by the way, the 'Constitution' is nothing more than a piece of paper

and people are more than one man collectively

what source are you using to etymologize the words used by others?

shouldn't you utilize sources prior to the writing of the 'Constitution' if you wish to offer an opinion regarding the definitions of words used in said document?

do you claim to know the hearts, minds and intent(s) of the creators/writers of that document with absolution?

if you choose to accept "man means animal"; so be it, and i hope it works out for you

Of course I agree with Gen 1:27. I am happy for you when you go into Your court or their court, however, you look at it and really let them know THEY are going to behave and do what you want. If you want to stand there in front of them and start defining their words with your meanings - go for it. THEY get to presume under their private court system exactly what they want.

This just came in this morning about those who are interested in common law. I did not write this --

"For those interested in the common law process, check this out. This is in the definition of the word Justice. Notice what it says pertaining to "In common law"

From what this here says it appears the only Judges qualified to act as a Justice in the common law is only a Supreme Court Judge within the federal government or an appellate court Judge within the States. This would mean going to the County court would be the wrong court for common law because County Judges are not given the title of being a "Justice"

Black's Law 2nd addition

Justice
In common law. The title given in England to the judges of the king's bench and the common pleas, and in America to the judges of the supreme court of the United States and of the appellate courts of many of the states. It is said that this word in its Latin form (justitia) was properly ' applicable only to the judges of common-law courts, while the term "judex" designated the judges of ecclesiastical and other courts.

look into Black's 2nd the definition of Government

Read that entire definition real close. It explains the defacto vs dejure and defacto applies under military rule.

From this definition the Federal government has NO AUTHORITY to come into the State AT ALL! Their mere coming into the States in completely defacto which this is where they come in under military rule.

This is my comment: Therefore UNDER MILITARY RULE, BARRY gets to use a pen and a telephone. We, the People are under a state of emergency and have been since 1933. If we were not under a declared state of emergency AND all the titles were not seized, common law would be a good place to start; however, this is not the case. Do you see?

[Michael Joseph]

Stop reading the lawbooks and start reading THE LAW BOOK the Bible from which the common-law was derived.

Shalom
MJ