State of Oregon does not support reording affidavits

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  • David Neil
    Member
    • Feb 2014
    • 64

    #1

    State of Oregon does not support reording affidavits

    I just attempted to file an "Affidavit in support of Demanding Lawful Money" and was sent from the Recorders Office to the County Clerk. The County Clerk rebuffed this attempt saying I needed to provide the statute that supports the recording of this document. He stated that he did not know what type of document this was. I replied that it was a Affidavit. He said that if it was a deed he could record it. I replied again that it was not a deed and that I wished to record it as a public document as a miscellaneous file recording. He stated there is no such thing.

    I am now off to find supporting statutes. Perhaps it is better to file all of this in District Court?
  • Keith Alan
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2012
    • 324

    #2
    Why not make it a Deed?

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    • pumpkin
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2014
      • 174

      #3
      David, I looked and they are not required. Instead use the public notice process and or a notary. Anything notarized is as good as recorded. Use witnesses.

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      • allodial
        Senior Member
        • May 2011
        • 2866

        #4
        United States District Court miscellaneous case jacket perhaps? If they see something might be a "Federal/U.S." matter they might not tell you and simply say "We wont file it".
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        • David Neil
          Member
          • Feb 2014
          • 64

          #5
          Originally posted by allodial View Post
          United States District Court miscellaneous case jacket perhaps? If they see something might be a "Federal/U.S." matter they might not tell you and simply say "We wont file it".
          Right now I am looking at public notice. My interpretation of the law is they have to record my Public Notice and it says that the original should be turned in with Notice.
          if not so made, it may be filed with the county clerk of the county where the newspaper is printed. In either case, the original affidavit, or if the same is filed with the clerk, a copy thereof, duly certified, is primary evidence of the facts stated therein

          I believe I would fall under the "if not so made" portion.

          If all else fails I do have a judgment in Oregon and I was thinking of attaching to that court case. I will enter my demand for payment by the debtor to be paid in lawful money. I will also insert the affidavit in support of demand for lawful money to show why I am making the debtor pay me in lawful money. I think I am getting the hang of this legal thing

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          • David Neil
            Member
            • Feb 2014
            • 64

            #6
            Originally posted by pumpkin View Post
            David, I looked and they are not required. Instead use the public notice process and or a notary. Anything notarized is as good as recorded. Use witnesses.
            That would be 2 witnesses, right?

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            • pumpkin
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2014
              • 174

              #7
              Normally 2 witnesses, yes.

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              • shikamaru
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2011
                • 1630

                #8
                Why not inform the clerk to file on demand?

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                • pumpkin
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2014
                  • 174

                  #9
                  Filing papers with the recorder, in itself, does not accomplish anything. The purpose of recording it there is to have it readily available to file into evidence if needed. Anything notarized will accomplish the same purpose. Any papers that are notarized can be placed into evidence. I couldn't find anything requiring the recorder to file on demand.

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                  • David Merrill
                    Administrator
                    • Mar 2011
                    • 5949

                    #10
                    Originally posted by pumpkin View Post
                    Filing papers with the recorder, in itself, does not accomplish anything. The purpose of recording it there is to have it readily available to file into evidence if needed. Anything notarized will accomplish the same purpose. Any papers that are notarized can be placed into evidence. I couldn't find anything requiring the recorder to file on demand.
                    Always get a Commission Certificate on the Notary.
                    www.lawfulmoneytrust.com
                    www.bishopcastle.us
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                    • David Neil
                      Member
                      • Feb 2014
                      • 64

                      #11
                      I requested the certificate, but we never got that far in the process before being shut down

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                      • EZrhythm
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2011
                        • 257

                        #12
                        Originally posted by pumpkin View Post
                        Filing papers with the recorder, in itself, does not accomplish anything. The purpose of recording it there is to have it readily available to file into evidence if needed. Anything notarized will accomplish the same purpose. Any papers that are notarized can be placed into evidence. I couldn't find anything requiring the recorder to file on demand.
                        Au contraire- In fact it is the other way around,for the most part. Having a document notarized, in itself, only accomplishes a specific task such as certifying who signed a document and/or who declares the words on a document. Recording a document in a public arena accomplishes the task of giving notice to all so that none can claim ignorance.

                        There is the instance of a man who declared and had notarized his own insurance bond-

                        "November 2009. I got stopped for expired stickers on the license plates and I showed an un-filed, notarized, original. Because it was not filed with the county clerk, the officer gave me a ticket for "no proof of insurance". When I went to court this morning and finally sat down with the DA chick, she asked me if I had proof of insurance and i gave her a certified copy of the filed bond. The only thing she asked me was, "Where did you get this?" I asked her what did she mean and she just repeated the question. I knew better than to say, "I got it from __________ or off the internet" so I said, "I wrote it and submitted it to the County Clerk for recording". She asked if I had showed it to the officer and I said I had but it was not recorded at the time. She said since it was recorded now, it was sufficient!!"
                        -George

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                        • David Merrill
                          Administrator
                          • Mar 2011
                          • 5949

                          #13
                          Originally posted by David Neil View Post
                          I requested the certificate, but we never got that far in the process before being shut down
                          You request the Commission Certificate from the Secretary of State.
                          www.lawfulmoneytrust.com
                          www.bishopcastle.us
                          www.bishopcastle.mobi

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                          • David Merrill
                            Administrator
                            • Mar 2011
                            • 5949

                            #14
                            Originally posted by David Neil View Post
                            I requested the certificate, but we never got that far in the process before being shut down
                            You request the Commission Certificate from the Secretary of State.
                            www.lawfulmoneytrust.com
                            www.bishopcastle.us
                            www.bishopcastle.mobi

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                            • Chex
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2011
                              • 1032

                              #15
                              Originally posted by EZrhythm View Post
                              Having a document notarized, in itself, only accomplishes a specific task such as certifying who signed a document and/or who declares the words on a document. Recording a document in a public arena accomplishes the task of giving notice to all so that none can claim ignorance.
                              verify that you really are Justin Pritchardfreelance author) "having a document notarized means that your signature is official It does not mean much else" statement disturbing.

                              What is a notarized Affidavit, in Affidavit Form or in Affidavit of Heirship.

                              The Affidavit of Heirship is signed before a notary public by two witnesses that are not a part of the estate. The Affidavit of Heirship > is then filed in the real property records on file in a county clerk's office< .

                              The IRS issues. ITINs to persons who need a tax identification number for tax reporting or tax payment processes in the United States and that person is not eligible for a U.S. Social Security number.

                              Effective June 22, 2012, through the end of the year, "the IRS will only issue ITINs when applications include original documentation, such as passports and birth certificates, or certified copies of these documents from the issuing agency." Previously, the IRS also accepted notarized copies of these documents. The IRS will no longer accept notarized copies of supporting documents except in the following two instances: http://taxes.about.com/b/2012/06/25/...uing-itins.htm
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