My first steps to redeeming Lawful Money are underway, but I need guidance.

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  • drbradb1
    Junior Member
    • Aug 2012
    • 1

    #16
    Chase Bank

    Hi I just went to Chase Bank where I have a private account. I had two requests one that the original signature card be amended and that the account would now draw 0 interest. Well after about 50 minutes and the "commercial" banker and the Bank supervisor both admitting the had no clue as to what fractional reserve banking is I figured I was stuck.But I persevered to the point that on a computer screen in the general comments section of my account page I had typed in " All Transactions in this Account are deemed to made in Lawful Money; Title 12 section 411." I had the word deemed not redeemed in the statement. Is this a fatal flaw David? Also I had the account changed to a zero interest account. Any comments on deemed v redeemed?
    Brad

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    • Franco
      Member
      • Jan 2013
      • 40

      #17

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      • Franco
        Member
        • Jan 2013
        • 40

        #18
        this is added statement and question to previous post
        when i go back to the bank to request to alter my signature card. in other words to change certification which states 'i am a U.S. Citizen " to " I am not a U.S. citizen" how do i explain this to banker so it will make sense? an if denied will the "all transaction demanded in lawful money pursuant to title 12 sec 411" and my signature in truth overcome this error?
        thanks to any one who can help me in this problem. Franco

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        • Darkmagus
          Junior Member
          • Dec 2012
          • 23

          #19
          I missed something... crossing out ..."the Order Of" on a check was alluded to. What's the rational or objective behind that?

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          • Darkmagus
            Junior Member
            • Dec 2012
            • 23

            #20
            Also, my bank and many others now have ATMs that will take deposits without an envelope. These deposits don't require any signature/endorsement on the back, so why can't a demand for lawful money be made on the front? That way when your receipt, which includes a picture of the checks, is issued you have an instant record of that deposit with lawful money demand.

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            • David Merrill
              Administrator
              • Mar 2011
              • 5956

              #21
              Originally posted by Darkmagus View Post
              Also, my bank and many others now have ATMs that will take deposits without an envelope. These deposits don't require any signature/endorsement on the back, so why can't a demand for lawful money be made on the front? That way when your receipt, which includes a picture of the checks, is issued you have an instant record of that deposit with lawful money demand.
              The deposit slip is your domain in my opinion. It is like a withdrawal slip. Make your demand whenever you are required to sign for cash but it is also good to do so wherever possible. When you get a paycheck though, the front side is the domain of your employer or client.
              www.lawfulmoneytrust.com
              www.bishopcastle.us
              www.bishopcastle.mobi

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              • EZrhythm
                Senior Member
                • May 2011
                • 257

                #22
                Then there is issuing NOTICE to the bank, CC: IRS and not even being concerned on a per deposit basis.

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                • Freed Gerdes
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2012
                  • 133

                  #23

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                  • Moxie
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2013
                    • 207

                    #24
                    Originally posted by EZrhythm View Post
                    Then there is issuing NOTICE to the bank, CC: IRS and not even being concerned on a per deposit basis.
                    So you're saying it's a simple as making any other NOTICE, for example:

                    NOTICE: USC Title 12 Section 411, Demand For Lawful Money

                    Any other vitals I missed?
                    It's easier to fool people than to convince people they've been fooled. ~ Mark Twain

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                    • David Merrill
                      Administrator
                      • Mar 2011
                      • 5956

                      #25
                      There are suitors serving Notice and Demand on their local Federal Reserve Bank and then serving that on their bank. We start by getting a commission certificate from the Secretary of State on the notary. Then we file for an evidence repository in the US District Court - either a $46 Miscellaneous Case File or a $350 Libel of Review (civil counterclaim). Then the Notice and Demand is served on the Fed bank so to get a proof of service. That marked up Notice and Demand with the proof of service is finally served on the bank.

                      Whenever signing for cash it is wise to make the Demand though.



                      P.S. The more effective approach is to be the court of record.
                      Last edited by David Merrill; 04-02-13, 04:11 AM.
                      www.lawfulmoneytrust.com
                      www.bishopcastle.us
                      www.bishopcastle.mobi

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                      • Franco
                        Member
                        • Jan 2013
                        • 40

                        #26

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                        • Franco
                          Member
                          • Jan 2013
                          • 40

                          #27

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                          • David Merrill
                            Administrator
                            • Mar 2011
                            • 5956

                            #28
                            Franko;


                            I feel that once you have the remedy understood - demanding lawful money - which you accomplished on the signature cards the citizenship issue becomes moot. If you understand the cestui que vie trust law then the legal entity becomes a tool for your use.

                            From what I read the bank manager was Refusing for Cause your novation to the signature card. He just did it verbally in front of the bank's security cameras. - Not in writing.
                            www.lawfulmoneytrust.com
                            www.bishopcastle.us
                            www.bishopcastle.mobi

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                            • Bentley
                              Member
                              • Feb 2013
                              • 46

                              #29
                              Originally posted by David Merrill View Post
                              There are suitors serving Notice and Demand on their local Federal Reserve Bank and then serving that on their bank. We start by getting a commission certificate from the Secretary of State on the notary. Then we file for an evidence repository in the US District Court - either a $46 Miscellaneous Case File or a $350 Libel of Review (civil counterclaim). Then the Notice and Demand is served on the Fed bank so to get a proof of service. That marked up Notice and Demand with the proof of service is finally served on the bank.

                              Whenever signing for cash it is wise to make the Demand though.



                              P.S. The more effective approach is to be the court of record.
                              Hi David,

                              As this is new to me and I am still learning, is the civil counterclaim filed when an IRS levy is filed against a soon to be suitor?

                              Thanks,
                              Bentley

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                              • David Merrill
                                Administrator
                                • Mar 2011
                                • 5956

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Bentley View Post
                                Hi David,

                                As this is new to me and I am still learning, is the civil counterclaim filed when an IRS levy is filed against a soon to be suitor?

                                Thanks,
                                Bentley
                                For years we (suitors) have been enjoying success with the Libel of Review. It evolves and this rendition is from May of 2012. For over five years we have integrated Lawful Money Demand into the LoR and that has greatly augmented successful results in the brain trust.

                                The LoR itself is always dismissed but review the 'saving to suitors' clause itself. The Judiciary Act (1789) guarantees a suitor the "exclusive original cognizance" of the US government regarding any seizures on land. I developed the LoR from direct experience of (one of) the authors from Are You Lost at C? - c. 1995.

                                As the time went on I found myself repeating answers to questions so I collected the early suitors together in an Open-Faced Email Broadcast. This launched an era of echo chambers for me. I began utilizing chat rooms on the Internet to form ideas and theories and refining them in conversations on this "brain trust" of suitors. Soon it became necessary to define and describe what a suitor is.

                                In order to groom the quality of ideas exchanged on the brain trust we set up a rule early on. One would need to have a default judgment published before they could broadcast. This still works well for a general rule but the actual rule has since been discarded because there have never been any problems with new suitors broadcasting before they have the default judgment in place. All those conversations are quite intelligent and civil with an inherent understanding of how one will develop remedy by projection/reflection as they complete the Lesson Plan impelled by the LoR process.

                                This website is the next evolution into a more public access than the brain trust. StSC here has been a guidestone that there is access to the law and remedy can be successfully applied. The outward sign of the remedy is a full refund of withholdings but you may notice that I do not tout that much. A 35% pay raise though, that is the edge needed to logically ward off the effects of a diminished value stock certificate system (of the central bank) known as Federal Reserve notes. This seems to be what captures the imagination. When one is getting back these funds loaned to the IRS in withholdings then one starts to encounter an evolution of mental models. Think about what I just wrote - instead of being the debtor, one becomes the creditor. Somebody discovered that in those terms here on StSC just a couple days ago! Ergo you might get a glimpse of echo chambers. Ideas bounce around and either die off or are developed based in filters we apply naturally to protect our beliefs.

                                That is probably enough for you to develop an understanding. Thanks for asking.



                                Regards,

                                David Merrill.
                                www.lawfulmoneytrust.com
                                www.bishopcastle.us
                                www.bishopcastle.mobi

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