Legal name = mark of the beast ?

[shikamaru]

I remember the phrase from somewhere that you can't "buy, sell, or trade" without it.

The legal name (along with identification) fits this description perfectly, in my opinion.

Agree or disagree?

[John Booth]

I see it as you cannot play the game without a token or game piece, and the LN is that, especially for the Public, yet the board has two sides, yeah?

So...as above, so below, and if you play on the Private side, it is the obverse/reverse side of the Public, and one can buy, sell, or trade - to me labels of exchange.

I do notice the "own" is not in the phrase, is it telling by omission?

[shikamaru]

I see it as you cannot play the game without a token or game piece, and the LN is that, especially for the Public, yet the board has two sides, yeah?

There is! I tend to forget that sometimes.

I do notice the "own" is not in the phrase, is it telling by omission?

To own in a beast system, both the name and item must be registered.

[RThomas]

“Mark of the Beast” may also mean money. My Barnhart Concise Dictionary of Etymology lists mark as being used in old English as money or a unit of coinage (starting around 1200 AD). It is from Proto-Germanic origin. Germany still uses the term today, hence a German Mark.

[Michael Joseph]

“Mark of the Beast” may also mean money. My Barnhart Concise Dictionary of Etymology lists mark as being used in old English as money or a unit of coinage (starting around 1200 AD). It is from Proto-Germanic origin. Germany still uses the term today, hence a German Mark.

give unto Ceasar what is Ceasar's and give unto God what is God's. I take notice that I did not enter this age with any ownership and I shall not leave it with any ownership. I also take notice that I was, I am and I will be. Therefore what is a date in regard to my existence?

I also take notice that my people asked my God for a man-king [Trustee]. The State is a Nullity absent God. Because what man has the power to transfer rights in to another body of men?

The Mark of the Beast has been around since Eden. I take careful notice that it was a son of Cain that built the first city. Society requires Trust, yes? first in the hand - labor; then in the forehead - full faith. If you are looking for the Mark, you will be deceived for it has always been there.

It is simple - Trust God. Any other trust is mis-placed and is leaning on a false rock. But my Rock is unmovable - God's Word is the same yesterday [first Age] today [flesh Age] and tomorrow [Age to Come].

shalom,
mj

[Treefarmer]

I think that the American author Jan MARCUSSEN does a very good job of explaining what is the biblical "mark of the beast" which is only mentioned in the book of Revelation.
His relatively short, and I believe correct analysis of the topic can be read here, where it is presented in an intentionally sensational style and at a 6th grade reading level in order to make it accessible to the TV minds.
Not a bad read though; I enjoyed it

[RThomas]

give unto Ceasar what is Ceasar's and give unto God what is God's.

I interpret this as you seeing what I see. Money of that time (and now) contains images (graven) or imprints of the beast. The Beast’s mark or image on such, may have led to ‘money’ of the beast being referred to as the ‘mark’ of the beast. Books of etymology support the conclusion (albeit a circumstantial one) as to why in 1611this English word was used as the translation of the original Greek. I also see that money that originates from Caesar is Caesar’s and not of God.

I take notice that I did not enter this age with any ownership and I shall not leave it with any ownership. I also take notice that I was, I am and I will be.

Who is giving you notice? God does not need notice, God is knowledge. If you allow God to flow through you than you would ‘know,’ not ‘take notice.’

Therefore what is a date in regard to my existence?

I see that dates are a concept of man and not of God. The question before us was in reference to a concept that existed before the here and now. The response was to show the nexus to the here and now.

I also take notice that my people asked my God for a man-king [Trustee]. The State is a Nullity absent God. Because what man has the power to transfer rights in to another body of men?

Man can be deceived into giving up his ‘rights.’ This is the essence of ‘free will.’ God will not transfer ‘rights.’ The question is, is one of man or of God, and of which God?

The Mark of the Beast has been around since Eden.

The concept of deception has been around since Eden. The specific form of deception inquired about in the OP came later as a concept of money, as representing a proxy for the future exchange of labor.

I take careful notice that it was a son of Cain that built the first city. Society requires Trust, yes?

Joining a society requires trust. One who joins with blind trust may be foolish. A society accepting membership into their society requires no trust of them for you, but may accept one’s giving of trust (from you), blind or not. They may try to hold you to the pledge of trust, blind or not.

first in the hand - labor; then in the forehead - full faith. If you are looking for the Mark, you will be deceived for it has always been there.

As given above, the OP was about a specific reference to a form of deception and not to the general concept of deception itself.

It is simple - Trust God. Any other trust is mis-placed and is leaning on a false rock. But my Rock is unmovable - God's Word is the same yesterday [first Age] today [flesh Age] and tomorrow [Age to Come].

This last part appears to be a perception you hold that I do not see. What I see is much different. God only spoke through man, using the language of man. The ‘word of God’ may be metaphorical. The truths in the messages originating from God are universal in all languages of man and in all ‘dates’ (Ages) of man (our being and existence).

For the record, I am not one of 'religion.’ I see the messages expressed in the Bible, and find truth in them. I am one of and with truth, not belief. Also, I wish to express my appreciation of your post.

[David Merrill]

Hopefully I may find time to catch up on this interesting thread. For now though - the comment about dating grabs me.

The term I hear comes from the term "to gift". So you are giving something up when you date a document. I have quit dating documents and allow the software, clerk or notary to declare the date for me.

[Treefarmer]

Hopefully I may find time to catch up on this interesting thread. For now though - the comment about dating grabs me.

The term I hear comes from the term "to gift". So you are giving something up when you date a document. I have quit dating documents and allow the software, clerk or notary to declare the date for me.

Thank you for pointing this out David.
I looked at the Merriam-Webster online dictionary and it says this:

Origin of DATE
Middle English, from Anglo-French, from Late Latin data, from data (as in data Romae given at Rome), feminine of Latin datus, past participle of dare to give; akin to Latin dos gift, dowry, Greek didonai to give
First Known Use: 14th century

By way of a nice coincidence, I had just been wondering if I should date a certain document when this little tid-bit of info helped me to decide

[RThomas]

The word ‘Date’ may be nothing more than an agreement of precedence or a gift of proof to another of what originated first. If you think about it a date is not required for a transaction. A signature is. A date is merely a giving of proof or precedence (supremacy) of a transaction. This ‘gift’ may be of a benevolent nature (one of truth within the provided form of communication of time (calendar)). As to the method of 'dating' an event, can anyone claim a third party right to refute the method of documenting (setting precedence of) that event? Can anyone who has declared a 'calendar' for the documentation of events, hold any right to define the meaning of those events outside of their language that originates from what can be known by anyone who sees the celestial bodies.

[EZrhythm]

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation+13&version=NIV

The second beast was given power to give breath to the image of the first beast, so that the image could speak and cause all who refused to worship the image to be killed.
It also forced all people, great and small, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hands or on their foreheads, so that they could not buy or sell unless they had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of its name. This calls for wisdom. Let the person who has insight calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man. That number is 666
Revelation 13:15-18


This is the most viable theory I have seen; http://usa-the-republic.com/mark%20of%20beast/toc.htm

[David Merrill]

I was heavily influenced by Eric Temple BELL's Numerology (1933). The party game of UCLA then was Beasting. The mathematics scholars could invariably find a variation of somebody's name equalling 666; of course they could bounce between variations and languages to get there. [Except uncannily for Eric's, that was the ongoing challenge - find a 666 for Eric.]



That is the magick encryption of the Angelic Name of God (72-Fold) and we find that Exodus 14:19-21 are 72 letters/verse alright. This has been a basis of gematria (qaballa) for many centuries now. 72 x 3 = 216. 6x6x6=216 too. I have many remarkable interpretations and decryptions of the KJV Bible if you have been paying attention and considering the passage in context of John isolated on a prison island, writing a letter he hoped would survive the Roman Empire occupation it strikes me more likely that this is the numerical operation that he was referring to.

I surmise that the white stone of acquittal is akin to knowing your identity; for being truth as a basis for distinguishing truth - like a tuning fork and your true name (given or Christian names/First and Middle only) functions for this purpose. There may be no useful metaphysics to that but I believe otherwise. Exodus 13:16 is part of the Libel of Review's Law of the Flag, indicating that the Mark of God is upon our hands and foreheads - exactly where John foretold of the Mark of the Beast? Monuments come to mind - surveys. Who will you find there? - In our actions and thoughts? One or the other.

While discovering our own Power (prayer) we may come to a point like Saul, who repented to Samuel; or David, who repented in front of Nathan to God. It is whether we utilize what we understand about the nature of God (216) and his manifestation of miracles for the Glorification of God or Mammon that really matters, as far as I am concerned. The manipulations of the Tetragammatron are inticing indeed, the fear of God is quite essential while discovering Power.


Regards,

David Merrill.

[Chex]

Social security always baffled me, I could never understand why I had to enlist into this program when I didn’t want it; never the less at fourteen I was told I needed this to get a job.

My question is how am I with a new grandchild underway was going to get power of attorney for this child. You know when the nurse comes in the first order of business is the SS5 very important even before the B/C gets signed by the informant (like Wisconsin, Massachusetts and Louisiana Administrative Code RS 40:34 and I’m sure the other states alike) to have this application filled out. I didn’t understand why it was necessary for a baby to have this number at birth other than the lie “you get a tax break”.

I needed some detailed information about this SSAct in that sensational style and at a 6th grade reading level and thanks to treefarmer from the Table of Contents starts the process.

What really caught my attention are the facts that represent the rulings especially in Chapter 8. Watching this judge really brought attention to detail, especially when one court case involving a minor who purchase an automobile from a adult by contract and the judge told the plaintiff “You cannot contract with a minor, check your state laws”,

Although further research states “The minor is able to cancel any contract at any time prior to reaching the age of majority and for a reasonable period after that time.”

What is for a reasonable period of time? I might be thirty years past the date and slept through the class in high school when they were teaching this subject but I like to know how the SSA contracted with a fourteen year old and for some reason it’s considered a binding contract?

Curiosity gets the best of me so I called the SSA and told them to stop the deductions because I wanted to take those contributions and invest them myself into a more promising venture (like me) in the same amounts that were taken out of my payments of debts I was receiving.

I was told “NO” because if I continue working and my credits do not get applied I will be receiving a lower benefit instead of a greater benefit. I told her I understand that, I’ll take the penalty. Then the kicker, “You have to call the IRS for permission”. Why do I have to ask the IRS for permission? “They have the authority” she stated.

Chapter 5 referring to Fleming v. Nestor and the RESERVATION OF POWER maybe is not an earned right perhaps that’s why I have to call the IRS or be in economic hardship.

Maybe it's my Tax Class 5? "gift" and not an earned right.

[Hbert997]

I remember the phrase from somewhere that you can't "buy, sell, or trade" without it.

The legal name (along with identification) fits this description perfectly, in my opinion.

Agree or disagree?

For in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.

"I gave them my sabbaths, to be a sign between me and them, that they might know that I am the Lord that sanctify them." Ezekiel 20:12. "It is a sign between me and the children of Israel for ever: for in six days the Lord made heaven and earth." Exodus 31:17.

Questions: Why do we "worship" on "Sunday"? Who are the "Sun/Solar" deities? Why is December 25th the "birth"day of ALL of the Solar deities?

Look down from the "heavens" on to D.C. and you'll see...the "image" of the beast? Is the Washington Monument the "image" of what is found in St. Peter's Square in Rome?

Just my thoughts! :-)

[David Merrill]

Thank you! You have outdone me with informative links. I know how much longer a post like yours takes and I appreciate that extra effort.

I went to the SSA office and had a discussion with the manager. Since that time I have not had a SSN.

Why not?

Because I do not write it or say it. When somebody asks me for one, I say, I do not have a Social Security Number.

I am uploading a very special example of utilizing the priesthood METRO organization - for example:

According, the original Federal Reserve Act also appears to be Federal MUNICIPAL law.

How about that?

If you have some time to spend get into this download. Just so that you don't feel you wasted your time though - if you go into the ER for X-Rays or CAT Scans make sure you leave with the whole report on CD. If you try to get them later they will charge you. My point is that these requirements are not really required.

If you understand relationships (trusts) well enough, you can usually just wait for the truth to catch up with the logic that you owe the billing information at all. Most of the time, the delivery - the biological one is done through the ER anyway with the woman or more often Daddy so flustered he will sign anything in front of him. What will they do? Just make the woman deliver in the waiting room?

There are horror stories though... about handing the new baby over to protective services so keep context about your research!