No pleading.

[motla68]

I do believe what you are proposing has been tried before and while it might work in a perfect world, communalism seems to have failed where attempted, due to our short comings.
Wasn't communalism what was practiced by the early christians also. fb

Yes, we have abandoned it, but it has always been there for us to restore, just like the lawful money issue.

Communalism I believe has taken on another form and I see it slowly spreading internationally, that would be Egalitarianism.
It pretty much is in the spirit of the old woman in the bible who gave all she had to the temple and where the rich man gave little. Who do you think had more people at their funeral?

I also see some small groups effortlessly working to bring back the equity courts, sometimes you got to take 1 step back to take 2 steps forward.

[motla68]

There never has been a time in my life where I did not allow the spirit to guide my life. While it would seem that different people are at different points in their understanding, it would seem that all those truly seeking will find. I can only act on what spirit has shone to me. Since I was not raised in a particular belief I find that many have the brain washing of the religions to over come as well. In truth your friend. While I do feel that some of the teaching in the bible are superior to some others. One for instance that is often miss understood according to my understanding, Is the new testament of forgiveness. Forgiveness it would seem transmutes the law (eye for eye) or in other words the law of karma, cause and effect. This it would seem is the foundation stone of what is being expressed in the story of the life and teachings of Jesus. I travail in birth pains until Christ be formed in you. fb

Follow the forgiveness in the book of life and that shall take you one step further in your understandings. God's peace to you.

[Frederick Burrell]

It seems to me that you and the group are saying if you surrender everything to the state, embrace the socialism, communism, give all you energies to the state and support the rape of the people they will leave you alone. Hmmm, Not sure thats what the founding fathers had in mind. Just my para-phasing of what I'm hearing so far. Tell me I am wrong. fb

[motla68]

It seems to me that you and the group are saying if you surrender everything to the state, embrace the socialism, communism, give all you energies to the state and support the rape of the people they will leave you alone. Hmmm, Not sure thats what the founding fathers had in mind. Just my para-phasing of what I'm hearing so far. Tell me I am wrong. fb

Your wrong. ... you asked me to say this to you, am only giving what you asked for so please [for]give me.

It would sure seen this way, on one point about this I could say it is returning the money back to the paper creator and correcting a mistake that this is what you never intended to receive, protesting what has been done with the money supply in a sense. On another note you could also says it is not what my creator intended for me. If it comes against my neighbor I do not want it. Make sense?

[Frederick Burrell]

Money is just a medium of exchange. Nothing more. I use it to exchange my energies for the energies of someone else, in a convenient fashion. It can be abused just like any other creation of man. But the abuse by men does not make money "evil". Take it for what it is and use it correctly and honorable and I can see no problem with money. The problem exists in the way in which it is being used today as a tool of manipulation, control and war, economically. The mistake it would seem is that the people were sold out by those they placed their Trust in. You seem to believe that there is some kind system in place, placed by men in high places, that will lead to a solution, redemption. I think it is up to us, to stop supporting a the system in place now. One way is to stop using their money. FRN. Don't play word games with me in regards to my understanding of what your group is about. "You asked me to tell you this". Please explain where I am misinterpreting what you are saying. FB

[motla68]

Money is just a medium of exchange. Nothing more. I use it to exchange my energies for the energies of someone else, in a convenient fashion. It can be abused just like any other creation of man. But the abuse by men does not make money "evil". Take it for what it is and use it correctly and honorable and I can see no problem with money. The problem exists in the way in which it is being used today as a tool of manipulation, control and war, economically. The mistake it would seem is that the people were sold out by those they placed their Trust in. You seem to believe that there is some kind system in place, placed by men in high places, that will lead to a solution, redemption. I think it is up to us, to stop supporting a the system in place now. One way is to stop using their money. FRN. Don't play word games with me in regards to my understanding of what your group is about. "You asked me to tell you this". Please explain where I am misinterpreting what you are saying. FB

No word games here an I agree with you partly, but would if the creator never intended for us to have money, What does a spirit need it for?
1 Cr. 15:45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.

Spirit expends energy, not material things upon this earth, when a flesh man has money, they often want more, one thing leads to another like a drug addiction.
Let's look at the system though and I will use your quote about money: " The problem exists in the way in which it is being used today as a tool of manipulation, control and war, economically."
As I have pointed out in several resources the system is a usufructuary, it can be used for bad or it can be used for good. If we give the system energy then it must return the energies of necessity so that we can keep feeding it energy, but the problem is the energy it is being fed right now. Make sense?

[Frederick Burrell]

God did not build houses for use either, so are you suggesting that we all live back out in the open.

You seem to be caught in a duality of spirit vs. matter. They are but degrees of the same thing. Not opposites.

Just as hot and cold would at first appear to be opposites. On closer examination be see they are but degrees of the same thing. Darkness and light would be similar. darkness would be the extreme absence of light. The more light the less of what we call darkness.

It would seem some today are seeking perfection through the law rather than through forgiveness. This creates a repressive system, with more and more controls being exerted to attain the desired goals. This is a repudiation of the Chritst. The mind, devoid of its connection to spirit, seeking perfection. We have made the mind our god. Rather than the indwelling spirit. Christ as the head of the church. Christ being the indwelling spirit. chruch representing your body. I travail in birth pains till Christ be formed in you. fb

[motla68]

God did not build houses for use either, so are you suggesting that we all live back out in the open.

You seem to be caught in a duality of spirit vs. matter. They are but degrees of the same thing. Not opposites.

Just as hot and cold would at first appear to be opposites. On closer examination be see they are but degrees of the same thing. Darkness and light would be similar. darkness would be the extreme absence of light. The more light the less of what we call darkness.

It would seem some today are seeking perfection through the law rather than through forgiveness. This creates as repressive system, with more and more controls being exerted to attain the desired goals. This is a repudiation of the Chritst. The mind, devoid of its connection to spirit, seeking perfection. We have made the mind our god. Rather than the indwelling spirit. Christ as the head of the church. Christ being the indwelling spirit. chruch representing your body. I travail in birth pains till Christ be formed in you. fb

No, home is in heavan Phil 3:20. I am just camped out here until I return home. The house here upon earth is a house of record which is passed on through the legacy being that we are witnesses here, a couple members in Coresource are now calling it a sanctuary, for me the the jury in my mind is still debating that one.

No duality here, I am even physically providing sweat equity to divide these things, returning paper to the state and returning the earth back to the people through some volunteer work showing people how to grow their own food and providing for those who are physically unable to do so.

“Blessed are the peacekeepers for they will be called the sons of god (Matthew 5:9)” and will be protected by divine providence.

“Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill.” (Mathew 5:17)

[Frederick Burrell]

I really have nothing more to say. You do not seem to want to answer direct questions. Until such a time as you do. I will say goodbye. Nice talking with you and I believe I have come to a deeper understanding of what you and your group is all about. Thanks. FB

[David Merrill]

I really have nothing more to say. You do not seem to want to answer direct questions. Until such a time as you do. I will say goodbye. Nice talking with you and I believe I have come to a deeper understanding of what you and your group is all about. Thanks. FB

It is possible though, if you were here earlier to understand the CoreSource approach is another Papering Package (but not Robert Arthur MENARD's Papering Package) - note the red highlighting.

No, home is in heavan Phil 3:20. I am just camped out here until I return home. The house here upon earth is a house of record which is passed on through the legacy being that we are witnesses here, a couple members in Coresource are now calling it a sanctuary, for me the the jury in my mind is still debating that one.

No duality here, I am even physically providing sweat equity to divide these things, returning paper to the state and returning the earth back to the people through some volunteer work showing people how to grow their own food and providing for those who are physically unable to do so.

“Blessed are the peacekeepers for they will be called the sons of god (Matthew 5:9)” and will be protected by divine providence.

“Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill.” (Mathew 5:17)

However like Treefarmer's namesake here, one has to get their hands a bit dirty to lay claim. Being that government officials have no charter to collect these papering packages and Notice that you are special is of no effect, basically in the etymology and definitions of politician, I really do feel that farming and husbandry do play a critical part of being a true peacekeeper. It is simply keeping the violence in your backyard though. You become witness to the butchering and the harvesting first hand. Otherwise like the rest of us, you must contract and the structure of that through constitutions involves properly utilizing the offices of politicians - sworn in servants.



Regards,

David Merrill.

[motla68]

I really have nothing more to say. You do not seem to want to answer direct questions. Until such a time as you do. I will say goodbye. Nice talking with you and I believe I have come to a deeper understanding of what you and your group is all about. Thanks. FB

Sorry FB, I do not see any question marks in your posts at the end of sentences in any of this thread here. If your trying to get me in a argument It is not my intent to go there, argument causes controversy in court and in there them who bring argument have the burden of proving a liability to controversy. Think about what you been told for a couple days and maybe a thought will enter your mind about all this. It usually happens that way for many people about this, like running into a brick wall, I have had people walk away from it and then come back a couple months later with some epiphany they had when something clicked.

[motla68]

It is possible though, if you were here earlier to understand the CoreSource approach is another Papering Package (but not Robert Arthur MENARD's - note the red highlighting.

The end goal is to get away from most of all that, but problem is usually these probate courts cannot hear the voice of a spirit, they can only hear paper.

However like Treefarmer's namesake here, one has to get their hands a bit dirty to lay claim. Being that government officials have no charter to collect these papering packages and Notice that you are special is of no effect, basically in the etymology and definitions of politician, I really do feel that farming and husbandry do play a critical part of being a true peacekeeper. It is simply keeping the violence in your backyard though. You become witness to the butchering and the harvesting first hand. Otherwise like the rest of us, you must contract and the structure of that through constitutions involves properly utilizing the offices of politicians - sworn in servants.

Or maybe it is just spatial awareness that everything is connected and these connections can be disconnected and reconnected using a different pattern sequence.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JP0w9lZoLwU

Some years ago scientists had said that Magnets do not do any work, well the free energy pioneers have proved them wrong and also that water can burn and other energy passed through it.
Again if we limit our minds to some legal statutory box how will one ever know the other possibilities?

[doug-again]

You may not be ready for it yet, but I would go as far as to say: " why should we need any money at all if everything were publicly shared?"
What is private is the relationship between you and your creator, let the conscious spirit be your guide NOT the rule of law in someone else's relationship.
Whom do you TRUST?

i have gone over this thread many many times, and my analysis is, that the above quoted post is where this thread took a dive. Since post 28, where mot's private exegesis of 1 Tim 5:21 signified in fred's mind a modern return to an egalitarian social order; the public/ private nature of a man's relationship to God; Obadiah chapter 1; spatial awareness and magnets;all have somehow become relevant to, as the OP said, "the idea that misnomer is cause for no arraignment." The casual reader might be wondering what first century christian culture has to do with 21st century abatement for misnomer but .... PLEASE spare us the explanation!
PLEASE stop this mot, or start a new thread like you said you might, or get back on topic.
Thanks!

[David Merrill]

i have gone over this thread many many times, and my analysis is, that the above quoted post is where this thread took a dive. Since post 28, where mot's private exegesis of 1 Tim 5:21 signified in fred's mind a modern return to an egalitarian social order; the public/ private nature of a man's relationship to God; Obadiah chapter 1; spatial awareness and magnets;all have somehow become relevant to, as the OP said, "the idea that misnomer is cause for no arraignment." The casual reader might be wondering what first century christian culture has to do with 21st century abatement for misnomer but .... PLEASE spare us the explanation!
PLEASE stop this mot, or start a new thread like you said you might, or get back on topic.
Thanks!

Like with Frederick Burrell's post - I interpret it as a complaint, we find something here that reveals quite a bit:

Some years ago scientists had said that Magnets do not do any work, well the free energy pioneers have proved them wrong and also that water can burn and other energy passed through it.

Again if we limit our minds to some legal statutory box how will one ever know the other possibilities?

I believe that I parsed out part of the problem. If you are a defendant the judicial officers are obliged to hear you. Otherwise your papering packages do not function because it is not in their charter to hear them. The problem being that while Motla68 uses a papering package of some sort, he will not show us what it is. Therefore he skirts around it, implying there is something there, and it just becomes frustrating to infuriating to try believing he is credible.

Then as for the fantastic science, it shows that he believes some things that are blatantly false. There is no free energy, regardless of how you configure magnets. And the burning water thing - that was great! I like the idea that it takes very little energy to plug in the frequency generator that makes that possible. I can plug things in all day long and hardly burn any calories at all!!

We all have our belief sets and we like to protect them. I am sure with you on that Motla68! It is certainly good to stay flexible and allow others on a Website like this one to scrutinize the source materials that convinced you originally. What you say are allusions and implications that only make sense to me because of the studies I have done into Strawman Redemption and Birth Certificates as Stock Certificates and soforth. Basically, unless you are going to show us the source materials backing your assertions, I have been surmising summarily that most of them are wrong.



Regards,

David Merrill.

[motla68]

i have gone over this thread many many times, and my analysis is, that the above quoted post is where this thread took a dive. Since post 28, where mot's private exegesis of 1 Tim 5:21 signified in fred's mind a modern return to an egalitarian social order; the public/ private nature of a man's relationship to God; Obadiah chapter 1; spatial awareness and magnets;all have somehow become relevant to, as the OP said, "the idea that misnomer is cause for no arraignment." The casual reader might be wondering what first century christian culture has to do with 21st century abatement for misnomer but .... PLEASE spare us the explanation!
PLEASE stop this mot, or start a new thread like you said you might, or get back on topic.
Thanks!

Link to it:

http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/showthread.php?166-Deposit-Your-Pledge-Into-a-Bank-and-Freely-Elect-to-be-Bankrupt-and-Insolvent&p=1201#post1201

Peace be upon you.