How to use this Lesson Plan.

[David Merrill]

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Fetching twist on redemption!

[doug555]

Fetching twist on redemption!

However, an even easier instrument to use would be the "bill" itself - The Indorsed Bill Remedy.

[Keith Alan]

What good or service are you considering, Keith? That scrip reminds me of Ithaca Hours. The banking cabal allows these local currencies so long as they don't become nationwide. Certainly better than FRNs but experience shows these aren't really needed when we have Lawful Money of the US, commodities, and bitcoin to trade with. Pretty much universally accepted. And the banksters cannot stop any of them.

I'm playing with the idea of goods and services being provided to people out of Christian charity, and recognized by a beneficiary who then issues the certificate, which can be honored by others in a private society.

Ithaca Hours and other systems are mutual credit systems, where a society or trade network extends credit to members within the network.

My idea is an inverse application of mutual credit, where instead of the society extending credit to individuals, individuals extend credit to the society.

Example: a painter extends credit to someone when he paints their living room. The debtor then issues a certificate authenticating the work was done. Now the society owes the painter.

The model is Christ himself, who offered his sacrifice to the Father for the world's benefit, rather than the world extending credit to him in exchange for his work.

[Keith Alan]

Fetching twist on redemption!

Sorry for not noticing your reply until now, but I'm glad it piqued your interest!

[Keyser Soze]

I've been given the opportunity to share the concept of lawful money with my gf. Is there a thread somewhere with a condensed summary of the information contained here? Laws, court cases, etc.

[doug555]

I've been given the opportunity to share the concept of lawful money with my gf. Is there a thread somewhere with a condensed summary of the information contained here? Laws, court cases, etc.

I have attempted a condensed version at http://lawfulmoney.blogspot.com

Another is a thread here at #10099

[george]

I have attempted a condensed version at http://lawfulmoney.blogspot.com

Another is a thread here at #10099

hi doug555, I appreciate your effort in attempting to clarify Davids methodology but there you have combined Boris's path with Davids and that has the opposite effect.

I find Boris's method compelling but one at a time please.

IMO, this thread is a perfect example of why trying to follow Davids path is so difficult for some (most?) people. you can glean the basics of it though with enough reading here however without a FAQ or direct answers to the questions that arise it seems impossible to get the bigger picture. without that, it seems foolish to me to follow this path.

maybe by becoming a contributing suitor ($) one could get to the bottom of this but that way also seems flawed. at least a couple of reasons. 1) the people who may need it most cant afford it 2) what if you are upto your neck in legal BS and David becomes unavailable?

thanks

[Christopher Thomas]

Sooo..it has been a loong journey thus far and feel it may still be a good distance till [I] reach my destination..the place is in God's Will of course..in the mean time [I] can honestly say that [this] website helped so much as [I] feel [I] may have truly found the answers [i've] been trying for the last 4-5 years to figure out..not at all claiming or bonding [my] words that [im] correct nor intend to lead anyone in the wrong direction..[my] post(s) are to share the experience of attempting One's right to pursuit of happiness and some outcomes...[I] have made mistake that i'm aware of and will share so that maybe one can research or prevent from repeating..[I] like to try and remind [myself] that this process as a whole is not just for [me]...if at all anyway..its really for the [people] and when operating that way would create self-sustainable...(fill in the blank)...[David Merril], [Allodial] and [Doug555] kept repeating FOR-GIVE..that helped with the redemption..For[me to]Give[to you]...

Below, [I] feel as though administered the Estate by Claiming it's Title to it's proper location [General Post-Office]...

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[I] have also started a new job and endorsed the remedy on the W-4 however, [I] feel [I] made a mistake by the way [I] filled out the I-9..


[I] attempted to "Record" [my] "Solemn Act and Deed"



The mistake [I] feel is how [I] went about it..[I] went to the Comptroller's Office...to Record the deed...they "denied" to by the statutes not requiring them to..[I] pushed the paperwork and the postal money-order for the recording fees with a [9000.00$] "liability Notice" for failing to Record and providing legal advise.. and walked out..[I] thought about this...and [I] realized that [I] may record it in probate court record...that's why [I] try to stay polite with these people 1. it's not there fault and 2. when [I] realize [I] made a mistake,won't feel embarrassed about my past actions..[my] next day off will go and Record..or atleast a "Certificate of Authority" from Probate.. for the comptroller to Record it? I will research further...thought [I] would share [my] travels thus far...also [I] did an [Estate] "change of address" certified mail to Postmaster for "General post office"...

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When does a demand for lawful money and that lawful assistance dance the registered and required access become a legal issue ? if i wish to pay with lawful money any bill its most definitely going to be as a legal BILL. Bills and debt exchange just all legally endorsed tender.

[Michael Joseph]

When does a demand for lawful money and that lawful assistance dance the registered and required access become a legal issue ? if i wish to pay with lawful money any bill its most definitely going to be as a legal BILL. Bills and debt exchange just all legally endorsed tender.

Lawful Money and FRN's are both Legal Tender. But only one is Money [per se]. See Thomas vs. U.S.A. Otherwise one would not need to make a demand for lawful "money". Lawful describes the nature of money. And also, that FRN's are not Money per se. But both are a legal tender to the realm.

Both issue are LEGAL to the realm of the United States - but one is subject to the U.S. districts and the other subject to the Federal Reserve districts - of which both are understood by the United States as per 12 USC 411.

[Michael Joseph]

Produce the Evidence of your Claim which provide the Special Particulars establishing your Estate legal to a Law Forum of which you created. Otherwise, I find you are pissing in the wind and hope you are not down wind. Sorry to be a party pooper, but an IN FEE deed is a QUALIFIED Estate. And this in no way gives one access to property rights. A qualified Estate is only as good as the first Grant in Fee from a King to the Royalty which held the Property Rights establishing the plantations of which the Estates were formed.

Good luck to you. Regarding the W-9 - if that is the SSN associated with the Trust Account- please remove that immediately. Thank you.

[David Merrill]

I see an estate developing around "Turtle Islands". I think that is the item I understand most clearly so I have to ask:

Could you please show Turtle Islands on a map?

MJ requests you remove what is likely a SSN? I must agree with his judgment. Tapping into the Social Security System might be easily Tapping the Stock of the United States, and that is a crime. More likely MJ has seen more people go to prison than I have though, and so it strikes him on a personal chord. Lately I have been letting things go, but if you cannot show a map of Turtle Islands then I must entertain that you are promoting methods that land readers in prison, and so will be taking the posts down tomorrow.

I understand it as creating a state within a state. There cannot be two estates claiming land, on the same land. Albeit the world is full of mental estates, agreements and trusts etc. territory has a stipulated limitation.

[Christopher Thomas]

http://turtleislandeducate.com/about/turtle_island

Turtle Island...a Native term for North America...

One's under the impression the Estate is located in the file...all one did [according to my understanding] is Step up and take the responsibilities of the Estate...proof of that is the "change of address" showing that the Executor Office is occupied...the Estate however is located at the private location..THEY presumed to send ME the title..I simply registered the title back to the Estate..showing there is a difference in identity...

I really must go to work..will continue later, and take the misinformation down...

MJ...I forgot you in the message yesterday..along with David, Allodial and Doug...I appreciate your opinion(s)...I will provide them a record of an updated I-9..is the rest of One's info sufficient? the SSN, the only issue? what about citizenship for the Estate?

[David Merrill]

Sooo..it has been a loong journey thus far and feel it may still be a good distance till [I] reach my destination..the place is in God's Will of course..in the mean time [I] can honestly say that [this] website helped so much as [I] feel [I] may have truly found the answers [i've] been trying for the last 4-5 years to figure out..not at all claiming or bonding [my] words that [im] correct nor intend to lead anyone in the wrong direction..[my] post(s) are to share the experience of attempting One's right to pursuit of happiness and some outcomes...[I] have made mistake that i'm aware of and will share so that maybe one can research or prevent from repeating..[I] like to try and remind [myself] that this process as a whole is not just for [me]...if at all anyway..its really for the [people] and when operating that way would create self-sustainable...(fill in the blank)...[David Merril], [Allodial] and [Doug555] kept repeating FOR-GIVE..that helped with the redemption..For[me to]Give[to you]...

Below, [I] feel as though administered the Estate by Claiming it's Title to it's proper location [General Post-Office]...

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[I] have also started a new job and endorsed the remedy on the W-4 however, [I] feel [I] made a mistake by the way [I] filled out the I-9..



[I] attempted to "Record" [my] "Solemn Act and Deed"

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The mistake [I] feel is how [I] went about it..[I] went to the Comptroller's Office...to Record the deed...they "denied" to by the statutes not requiring them to..[I] pushed the paperwork and the postal money-order for the recording fees with a [9000.00$] "liability Notice" for failing to Record and providing legal advise.. and walked out..[I] thought about this...and [I] realized that [I] may record it in probate court record...that's why [I] try to stay polite with these people 1. it's not there fault and 2. when [I] realize [I] made a mistake,won't feel embarrassed about my past actions..[my] next day off will go and Record..or atleast a "Certificate of Authority" from Probate.. for the comptroller to Record it? I will research further...thought [I] would share [my] travels thus far...also [I] did an [Estate] "change of address" certified mail to Postmaster for "General post office"...

Let's not be too hasty:

We find that eight days (years) following the Declaration of Independence that a grant from the Iroquois Federation relinquished that claim, if there is anything to it. It would seem that the early Cherokee were cajoled and had a poor sense of the geography - how big North America is.

So I may be overprotective to say take it down.

My point is that you can only grow so many grapes, potatoes and cherry trees per acre; and therefore claims cannot be fractionalized like we find is done with debt. To say that Turtle Island still exists is an extension on the absurdity that cajoling a treaty granting everything westward of an eastern seaboard river is fraud.

So you are saying, Give everything back?

I recall actually arguing about this with my Dad - a WWII veteran. I lost.

[Christopher Thomas]

Okay...So, I think I am getting the point of which is trying to be said...The thing is..I don't have any property...where I am currently, is not my house..I actually utilize c/o for this address..on any mail I get...which is one reason why I didn't try to use this address [privately] due to the scenerio...I also thought that like a file# the Estate can also be located at general post and the USN is deposited in the RExxxUS account as "special Deposit" to claim such file # as property of the Estate..Then, Record in probate office my solemn act and deed, proof of life and Proof of Beneficiary...before I forget..I did speak to the boss and will fill out a new I-9 and W-4 since I put the Estate's trust number on it...