Notice and Demand to the Fed

[David Merrill]

I grabbed this from a Welcome Thread:

Make a Notice and Demand to the Fed and then base all transactions upon it.

This is highly recomended. I include a copy of my demand with my 1040s.

Here are some Notice and Demand samples. For closer instruction with NaD or Libel of Review process please PM me.

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/3079/noticeanddemand.jpg

http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/2922/noticeanddemand2012.pdf

http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/808/noticeanddemandboacorre.pdf

http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/8599/noticeanddemandmay2013.pdf

This last one was obviously guided by Internet reading here but I had nothing to do with the case. [Not a suitor.] The fellow was using his own record forming for others though and I do not recall that working out very well for the others...

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/4489/doc28noticeanddemandfor.pdf

[enlightened]

[David Merrill]

You have brought up some very edifying points.

First off you did not endorse the check; you non-endorsed it. The bank will likely consider it a restrictive endorsement. Legally it is a special deposit, not a regular deposit. If you like signing with the dba then do as she says, open a business account.

The Lesson Plan will take you through a paradigm shift about identity, record forming and redeeming lawful money.

I asked her if she had placed a restrictive endorsement on the check I just deposited. Specially after she said my restrictive endorsment was fine. She said "we have no way of placing a restrictive endorsement" the bank at the receiving end will see and and may choose to decline your withdrawal...

I think that sentence is confusing because you confused the matter by asking the question. More to the point, don't patrol what is going on inside the bank, on the other side of the counter. Pay attention to your demand and keep a record. You will be fine if you keep it simple and mind your own affairs.

I think rather they did not want you to publish your demand on the Signature Card and thus told you that you do not have one. You not only should have one but you should remember that you have one and even one better, you should have a copy of it. So pay attention...

Do they make you feel suppressed for wanting copies of everything you have signed? I call that conditioning.

[allodial]

Do they make you feel suppressed for wanting copies of everything you have signed? I call that conditioning.

Its to keep you from keeping a court of record of your own and to save on office supplies--of course they could scan everything and put it on flash drive --but then they would actually have to...


work.

She might be trying to tell you that the person opening the account not "true name". A simple alternative for 'signing':

John for John Doe

[Brian]

Spot in the video where Lawful money fits in.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFDe5kUUyT0

[David Merrill]

I will finish later but caught the 6:30 Minute Mark. Thanks for the link!

You are actually loaning the bank currency.

- When you make a deposit.

They shall be redeemed in lawful money on demand...

Make your demand and cause special deposit rather than regular deposit, by non-endorsement.

[David Merrill]

P.S. Following the matter only to the 9:00 Minute Mark from there we find that makes it clear:

(1) may not be more than $300,000,000; and
(2) may not be held or used for a reserve.

Like I keep saying; Make your demand clear and you get US notes in the form of Federal Reserve notes.

[David Merrill]

The author draws up short by not specifying that the initial deposit is a general or regular deposit. When a suitor makes demand for lawful money the deposit is special and the bank is in fact bound in trust to simply hold that specific currency in the vault for the account holder.

[enlightened]

You have brought up some very edifying points.

First off you did not endorse the check; you non-endorsed it. The bank will likely consider it a restrictive endorsement. Legally it is a special deposit, not a regular deposit. If you like signing with the dba then do as she says, open a business account.

The Lesson Plan will take you through a paradigm shift about identity, record forming and redeeming lawful money.



I think that sentence is confusing because you confused the matter by asking the question. More to the point, don't patrol what is going on inside the bank, on the other side of the counter. Pay attention to your demand and keep a record. You will be fine if you keep it simple and mind your own affairs.

I think rather they did not want you to publish your demand on the Signature Card and thus told you that you do not have one. You not only should have one but you should remember that you have one and even one better, you should have a copy of it. So pay attention...

Do they make you feel suppressed for wanting copies of everything you have signed? I call that conditioning.

Hmm, good point. I did not ask for copies. The reason I never had a signature card was because I signed up for the account online. She said it herself that I did not have one (even before we brought any of the topics here) and could therefore not report any width holdings to the IRS. So I am not sure if I should submit a signature card. I was careful to ask about it before I brought up my demand.

Given that, should I sign one? Navy federal also provides scans of all checks my plan is to ask for a copy of it each quarter to keep for my records.

[David Merrill]

That would likely be an electronic Signature Card then? They should be able to show or print it. Get online and look at the electronic form.

Get both sides of the checks, especially after you begin redeeming lawful money.

[David Merrill]

Thanks again for that link. I can appreciate destiny and heritage in coherence.

That vault is located on the SE Corner:

[enlightened]

That would likely be an electronic Signature Card then? They should be able to show or print it. Get online and look at the electronic form.

Get both sides of the checks, especially after you begin redeeming lawful money.

Will do. I have only non-endorsed 2 checks so far. That according to navy federal they are able to provide me with front and back copies. But going forward I will also keep front and back copies of my own.

Come tax season next year I will not include paychecks that have been non-endorsed. Unfortunately, I will have to pay taxes on any income prior to that.

[enlightened]

Its to keep you from keeping a court of record of your own and to save on office supplies--of course they could scan everything and put it on flash drive --but then they would actually have to...

She might be trying to tell you that the person opening the account not "true name". A simple alternative for 'signing':

Hmmm, I will give that a try. basically john = true name and john doe = legal name? correct?

[enlightened]

Hmm, Just noticed something odd.

I just made a payment on my auto loan online.

I saw my payment was posted immediately after. Before it used to take the money out of my checkings account then 2 or so business days post to my auto loan...

Now it's immediate. Probably co-incidence. HOwever, it is my first time making a payment since non-endorsing paychecks.

[David Merrill]

Hmm, Just noticed something odd.

I just made a payment on my auto loan online.

I saw my payment was posted immediately after. Before it used to take the money out of my checkings account then 2 or so business days post to my auto loan...

Now it's immediate. Probably co-incidence. HOwever, it is my first time making a payment since non-endorsing paychecks.

I am not saying it is so but that makes perfect sense within context of my above images. Your non-endorsed paychecks constitute special deposits. Therefore that amount of funding is sitting in the vault. It is a specific set of bills that the bank cannot touch and it is immediately available to you for use.

Before, when you made regular deposits it took a few days to extract the funds from the system of fractional lending. Maybe it would be better viewed as Basil III risk management and final rule, that was holding things up.

That is an interesting observation! Thank you. - And I mean interesting in the original sense of PAY ATTENTION. You have just revealed something very useful.