Indorsed Bill Remedy

**doug555** · 03-08-14, 09:58 PM

"Indorsed Bill Remedy" research material

http://creoharmony.blogspot.com/2013...ersionary.html

http://adask.wordpress.com/2014/02/2...-on-mortgages/

http://www.iamsomedude.com/

http://adask.files.wordpress.com/201...d_redacted.pdf

https://drive.google.com/folderview?...Ek&usp=sharing

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Charles_Carey
http://www.nationallibertyparty.com....netary-policy/

**Keith Alan** · 03-10-14, 12:47 AM

According to Wikipedia EO 11110 is gone.

**Chex** · 03-10-14, 12:31 PM

Originally posted by Keith Alan View Post

According to Wikipedia EO 11110 is gone.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_11110

History.

President Ronald Reagan issued Executive Order 12608 on September 9, 1987 as part of a general clean-up of executive orders. One part of E.O. 12608 specifically revoked the section (paragraph 1(j)) that were added to E.O. 10289 by Executive Order 11110. E.O. 11110 had been issued by President Kennedy in 1963, and is the subject of a conspiracy theory by author Jim Marrs. As that section was the only part of E. O. 11110 that was in effect, E.O. 12608 effectively revoked the entire Order. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_12608

**doug555** · 03-13-14, 11:00 PM

The E.O. 11110 revocation is mute. That was merely part of a cite from that website.

http://iuvdeposit.wordpress.com/2014...d-bill-remedy/ is my latest post on this technology.

The intent is to merge this with Karl's Lentz's "court of record" technology for its enforcement. Anthony Joseph is studying this approach intensely, and so will "i". Anyone else interested?

The ISSUE is about the obfuscation of the two options presented in HJR 192 (the INTENT of the TRUST governing the transfer of the people's gold to the United States Treasury) that Congress was FORCED to deliver to mitigate McFadden's charges of theft and treason.

And realize that the "discharge upon payment" option is not possible without the use of "LAWFUL MONEY"!

Don't get distracted by minor mute points.

**mikecz** · 03-14-14, 02:35 AM

Alright Doug,

Major ELI5 here, please post a copy of a check you've received from a client, front and back, after you have stamped it. I receive checks ALL THE TIME (I am a landlord, I just started doing this, and in a way, it feels extremely patriotic). Anyways it would help to see a physical example.

Also, straighten me out where I have this wrong... In 1932ish, Americans had their gold "stolen" taking both legal and equitable title.

McFadden charges theft in his 1932 appeal

The HJR-192 was written claiming indeed, we do have equitable title to the gold which was put into a huge trust, to which we are beneficiaries, congressmen are trustees, we just need to "perform" by discharging the payment. That an obligation can only be discharged UPON PAYMENT. PAYMENT not is required here, PAYMENT requires performance. You state Payment as 1 of the 2 options. If we don't perform, discharging a payment doesn't happen, therefore option 2 kicks in, we use bank credit, scrip etc. which is taxable.

Questions.

1. HJR-192 is all about discharging a payment, and has nothing to do with endorsement the way the general public knows it. It is in support of our claims as equitable title to all the gold that was stolen, it was a response to McFadden's charge of outright theft. Is this correct?

2. If all debt's are then "discharged" upon payment (when we demand lawful money), who does the discharging? I'm imagining the trust as this huge pile of gold / pledged labor of which the congressmen are the trustees. What if everyone demands lawful money, does the trust just discharge all payment. I mean, does this discharge then become like public money, a debt to the people, a currency of the federal gov't (I'm saying this like a good thing, it's like the old greenback's during Lincoln's time.) Instead of FRN's, why don't we just print up our own, in a sense, isn't demanding lawful money printing up public money and paying off or discharging FRNs?

3. Where does the birth certificate fit in. Once again ELI5. I was born, my parents signed me over to the state, and abandoned me (after 7 years no action), I was presumed dead and the state holds my estate. How do I prove I'm alive!? Did you really "Cancel" your birth certificate? If so, what effect does this have, in my observation, keeping the certificate allows you access to the trust, correct?

**Chex** · 03-14-14, 05:30 PM

Originally posted by mikecz View Post

3. Where does the birth certificate fit in. Once again ELI5. I was born, my parents signed me over to the state, and abandoned me (after 7 years no action), I was presumed dead and the state holds my estate. How do I prove I'm alive!? Did you really "Cancel" your birth certificate? If so, what effect does this have, in my observation, keeping the certificate allows you access to the trust, correct?

Social Security numbers and dates of birthhttp://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/09/...-fraud-scheme/

Hummmm... You have to wonder where they get the dates of birth from? Do they just make it up out of thin air?

A Taxpayer Identification Number (TIN) is an identification number used by the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) in the administration of tax laws. It is issued either by the Social Security Administration (SSA) or by the IRS. A Social Security number (SSN) is issued by the SSA whereas all other TINs are issued by the IRS. http://www.irs.gov/Individuals/Inter...-Numbers-(TIN)

Sands provided the confidential source with documents that contained personal identifying information, including names, dates of birth, and social security numbers, for approximately 64 stolen identities. http://www.irs.gov/uac/Examples-of-I...scal-Year-2014

* If the Form W-7 is for a deceased individual under 18 years of age, one of the documents proving identity and/or foreign status must be a birth certificate, unless a passport is submitted. http://www.irs.gov/instructions/iw7/ch01.html

In addition to a passport, examples of acceptable documentation include: national identification card (showing photo, name, current address, date of birth and expiration date); civil birth certificate; foreign driver's license; or visa. A complete list of acceptable documentation can be found in the Form W-7 Instructions (PDF). http://www.irs.gov/taxtopics/tc857.html

Don't want to bore you with the rest, all points lead to the Social Security number as an identification number so they say.

Unless your Social Security card has your picture on it, it's useless by itself. It can be used in tandem with something that has your picture on it, such as a driver's license, which confirms that number is yours though. http://answers.yahoo.com/question/in...0081927AAqyqFm

**doug555** · 03-14-14, 10:36 PM

Originally posted by mikecz View Post

Alright Doug,

Major ELI5 here, please post a copy of a check you've received from a client, front and back, after you have stamped it. I receive checks ALL THE TIME (I am a landlord, I just started doing this, and in a way, it feels extremely patriotic). Anyways it would help to see a physical example.

Also, straighten me out where I have this wrong... In 1932ish, Americans had their gold "stolen" taking both legal and equitable title.

McFadden charges theft in his 1932 appeal

The HJR-192 was written claiming indeed, we do have equitable title to the gold which was put into a huge trust, to which we are beneficiaries, congressmen are trustees, we just need to "perform" by discharging the payment. That an obligation can only be discharged UPON PAYMENT. PAYMENT not is required here, PAYMENT requires performance. You state Payment as 1 of the 2 options. If we don't perform, discharging a payment doesn't happen, therefore option 2 kicks in, we use bank credit, scrip etc. which is taxable.

Questions.

1. HJR-192 is all about discharging a payment, and has nothing to do with endorsement the way the general public knows it. It is in support of our claims as equitable title to all the gold that was stolen, it was a response to McFadden's charge of outright theft. Is this correct?

2. If all debt's are then "discharged" upon payment (when we demand lawful money), who does the discharging? I'm imagining the trust as this huge pile of gold / pledged labor of which the congressmen are the trustees. What if everyone demands lawful money, does the trust just discharge all payment. I mean, does this discharge then become like public money, a debt to the people, a currency of the federal gov't (I'm saying this like a good thing, it's like the old greenback's during Lincoln's time.) Instead of FRN's, why don't we just print up our own, in a sense, isn't demanding lawful money printing up public money and paying off or discharging FRNs?

3. Where does the birth certificate fit in. Once again ELI5. I was born, my parents signed me over to the state, and abandoned me (after 7 years no action), I was presumed dead and the state holds my estate. How do I prove I'm alive!? Did you really "Cancel" your birth certificate? If so, what effect does this have, in my observation, keeping the certificate allows you access to the trust, correct?

Good question about "stamp"! Because I do not "stamp" anything on any of my employer's or broker's checks to me. Instead, I simply handwrite my demand on my deposit slips for same. Example of a deposit slip demand (same location on front of my personal checks, just under my name and address):

1. YES; FED Endorsement is the default choice. The other "discharge upon payment" requires lawful money which is now the transfer of equitable title to the peoples credit-labor (real value) as effected by the performance of your indorsement of bills and demanding lawful money (which means you require an exchange of value for value, dollar for dollar!) to enable the "full discharge and acquittance per 12 USC 95a(2) provided for by this military govt.

2. IMO, the IRS, as agent of US Treasury, does the discharge based upon the 1040 Returns, which is the only vehicle that facilitates this reduction for most Americans that reports what is rightly presumed, by default, to be the total amount of FRNs used by you. This is now your chance, and duty as a good beneficiary in peace with this military rule system, annually, to rebut that presumption by a Federal Rule of Evidence 803(6)(B) "Exception to Hearsay" record of your demand made on your checks and deposit slips, to wit: "lawful money and full discharge is demanded for all tranactions 12 USC 411, 95(2)".

The "bill" already is currency. It is a credit voucher. And when indorsed with lawful money demand on its face, it acts like lawful money in that it effectively transfer your equitable tittle to the credit amount on the bill to the US Treasury. There is no need to have silver or gold-backed currency. Our labor is the "gold" - the real true fundamental and elemental value. Our labor is Infinite Universal Value that we can "Deposit" -- hence, the reason for the creating and naming of "http://iuvdeposit.wordpress.com"!

3. My Proof of Lifehttp://iuvdeposit.wordpress.com/12usc41195a2/.

**Freed Gerdes** · 03-14-14, 11:34 PM

I think I will disagree with you , Doug. The COLB is the title to your person, and by registering it, the Dept of Labor (is this maternity we are discussing?) makes a presumptive claim on your body. They create a Limited Liability Corporation in your NAME, for your use, while you participate in being a surety for the corporate government's debt. All assets put into your NAME are held in legal title by the military, with the equitable title held by the corporation, president Obummer as current trustee. YOU have no rights, including the right to own property, so any time you use your NAME to title something (car, house, bank account), you are gifting that asset to the trust, and you have only the right to naked use, and the corporation has the right first to boss you around, since you are now an employee of the corporation, with no Constitutional rights, and second, to tax you for the use of your own assets! Proving you are alive will not do anything about your estate, as you have none; you gave it to the corporation, when you failed to rebut the presumption that you wanted your assets and future labor pledged to the national debt (banksters). You the living man are viewed by the corporation as an 'animal' under 7 USC 6 26. And your LLC is owned by the state, and everything titled in your NAME is theirs.

Now in God's usufruct, the living are not controlled by the dead, so the state owns only the LLC they created for your (naked) use; they do not own you, unless you volunteer. The way to unvolunteer is not to claim that you are alive, as the corporate government cannot recognize you dead or alive, they see only corporate entities (dead, ficticious). When you use lawful money, it is foreign currency to the US govt, because it discharges debt (which FRN's definitely do not; they establish a lien against the asset 'bought', since you endorsed the notes used to 'pay' for the asset, and if the notes are dishonored, they can come to you to make the debt good). So demanding lawful money rebuts the presumption that you want to gift the asset to the corporation, ie, that you want to be a surety for the debt. Items purchased with lawful money are thus not encumbered with a lien in favor of the Fed Reserve, but if you put them in your NAME, you have just confirmed the presumption that you want to gift them to the state. Bummer.

Now unless you were born within Washington, DC, you are an American Citizen by birth (cool, dual citizenship). And citizenship is a First Amendment right; you have the absolute right to choose who you will affiliate with, do business with, enter into contracts with, etc. So you can be an American Citizen whenever you choose to do so; as an American Citizen, you have God-given rights (which the Constitution prevents the government from interfering with), among which is the right to own property. So you can title your assets in your own name, and the corporate government cannot tax them. All taxes on property are direct taxes, and must be apportioned to the states, unless it is the corporate government taxing its own property to you, the presumptively volunteer debt slave user, who has no property or rights.

So there is little value in trying to convince the government that you are alive; they don't care about you, they just want title to your assets, so they can tax them with a tax that would be unConstitutional without your (presumed) consent. To rebut your consent, don't use the LLC they created for you; use your own name (its not all caps...)

Freed

**doug555** · 03-14-14, 11:52 PM

Originally posted by Freed Gerdes View Post

I think I will disagree with you , Doug. The COLB is the title to your person, and by registering it, the Dept of Labor (is this maternity we are discussing?) makes a presumptive claim on your body. They create a Limited Liability Corporation in your NAME, for your use, while you participate in being a surety for the corporate government's debt. All assets put into your NAME are held in legal title by the military, with the equitable title held by the corporation, president Obummer as current trustee. YOU have no rights, including the right to own property, so any time you use your NAME to title something (car, house, bank account), you are gifting that asset to the trust, and you have only the right to naked use, and the corporation has the right first to boss you around, since you are now an employee of the corporation, with no Constitutional rights, and second, to tax you for the use of your own assets! Proving you are alive will not do anything about your estate, as you have none; you gave it to the corporation, when you failed to rebut the presumption that you wanted your assets and future labor pledged to the national debt (banksters). You the living man are viewed by the corporation as an 'animal' under 7 USC 6 26. And your LLC is owned by the state, and everything titled in your NAME is theirs.

Now in God's usufruct, the living are not controlled by the dead, so the state owns only the LLC they created for your (naked) use; they do not own you, unless you volunteer. The way to unvolunteer is not to claim that you are alive, as the corporate government cannot recognize you dead or alive, they see only corporate entities (dead, ficticious). When you use lawful money, it is foreign currency to the US govt, because it discharges debt (which FRN's definitely do not; they establish a lien against the asset 'bought', since you endorsed the notes used to 'pay' for the asset, and if the notes are dishonored, they can come to you to make the debt good). So demanding lawful money rebuts the presumption that you want to gift the asset to the corporation, ie, that you want to be a surety for the debt. Items purchased with lawful money are thus not encumbered with a lien in favor of the Fed Reserve, but if you put them in your NAME, you have just confirmed the presumption that you want to gift them to the state. Bummer.

Now unless you were born within Washington, DC, you are an American Citizen by birth (cool, dual citizenship). And citizenship is a First Amendment right; you have the absolute right to choose who you will affiliate with, do business with, enter into contracts with, etc. So you can be an American Citizen whenever you choose to do so; as an American Citizen, you have God-given rights (which the Constitution prevents the government from interfering with), among which is the right to own property. So you can title your assets in your own name, and the corporate government cannot tax them. All taxes on property are direct taxes, and must be apportioned to the states, unless it is the corporate government taxing its own property to you, the presumptively volunteer debt slave user, who has no property or rights.

So there is little value in trying to convince the government that you are alive; they don't care about you, they just want title to your assets, so they can tax them with a tax that would be unConstitutional without your (presumed) consent. To rebut your consent, don't use the LLC they created for you; use your own name (its not all caps...)

Freed

I will have to research your reply and get back to you... Thanks for your input.

I am in agreement with Boris and his "usufruct" paradigm...

Links to Boris's material and audios is in Message #2 of this thread.

My research on "usufruct" is in my folder at: https://drive.google.com/folderview?...Hc&usp=sharing

Perhaps you have not seen this material yet...

**doug555** · 03-15-14, 01:22 AM

My effort on another group to awaken them to the Federal Reserve Act Remedy...

http://www.nationallibertyalliance.o...17#comment-517

**Robert Henry** · 03-15-14, 03:10 AM

Doug, sent you a PM.

**ag maniac** · 03-16-14, 05:37 AM

There is another Boris video uploaded to youtube Mar 3, 2014....subsequent & supplemental to the Adask/Boris interview on Feb 25....."The only way to win is surrender"

40 minutes -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFfDl6pMw1s#t=272

**doug555** · 03-16-14, 07:40 PM

Originally posted by ag maniac View Post

There is another Boris video uploaded to youtube Mar 3, 2014....subsequent & supplemental to the Adask/Boris interview on Feb 25....."The only way to win is surrender"

40 minutes -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFfDl6pMw1s#t=272

Thanks!!!

Do you know how to get a copy of the paperwork package the attendees were looking at during the video?

**ag maniac** · 03-17-14, 08:15 AM

Originally posted by doug555 View Post

Thanks!!!

Do you know how to get a copy of the paperwork package the attendees were looking at during the video?

Sorry....I do not.

However, there are some web pages @ iamsomedude which may provide some clues

http://www.iamsomedude.com/legal.html

and

http://www.iamsomedude.com/advanced.html

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