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  • Michael Joseph
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    • Mar 2011
    • 1596

    #31
    Originally posted by David Merrill View Post

    JESUS DID NOT DIE ON THE CROSS AT ALL!!

    ABRAHAM'S INCEST WITH SARAH DID NOT KILL OFF THE ISRAELITES!!
    Honor thy Father and thy Mother - well in the flesh that is simply a moral code which is subject to all sorts of interpretations such as HOW DO I HONOR them? There is many denominations here - Scisms of thought - there does not exist ONE TRUTH in the flesh because in THE MAN Christ JESUS can only be found subjection. Thus folks opine on and on about stuff that does not matter at all.

    Those walking out their existence according to their Five Senses do so to their Death [these cross over Jordan]. There is no deliverance - they are oppressed each and every day by Goliath. For the Central Nervous System rules their house [flesh tabernacle] and their spirit SLUMBERS - will someone please awaken David son of Jesse? The spiritual child must be birthed. Until then the flesh remains DEAD. The flesh is the VINEYARD - Isaiah 5.

    Language matters. Yeshua, Yehoshuah, Jesus, Iousus - died. Michael Joseph is dying to self such that from glory unto glory I may be transformed into the image of Christ. I can't do it in my own imaginations. I must be Led into this path. Thus I ask the Holy Spirit [as Esther did]: What does the King like? My own vain thoughts [that's not what it means to me] means absolutely NOTHING.

    I construct a "golden calf" in my VAIN, WORTHLESS thoughts.

    =======================

    Abraham's incest?: This is absurd to me. The relationship is what is being conveyed. Sarah was taken from amongst a PECULIAR PEOPLE - She is the barren that didst not bring forth. She Births the CHILDREN OF PROMISE. She births the children of Election. As the relationship gets more and more degraded we eventually find Jacob married to a SLAVE.

    The bondwoman is one who is under the Law in her free will. She in her free will chooses to keep the Law. She is a slave.

    The Children of Promise are led by the Holy Spirit and are therefore set free from the burden of the Law. This group or company takes their orders from the ADMINISTRATION of the Holy Spirit. Is the Law of God annulled ABSOLUTELY NOT.

    Abraham who is the Leadership was granted this Promise. Well there was another Promise made even before the World even came into existence. I will get there shortly. I notice that 430 years after Abraham was granted that Promise [IN EQUITY] the Law was founded. So which is greater? Can the Law annul the Promise? HARDLY. Can the Promise annul the law, ABSOLUTELY NOT. There is Law AND Equity and these TWO merge into ONE under the Administration of the Holy Spirit.

    But look around you what do you see? I see MEN trying to KILL the Promise. These men in their ignorance seek to put man under law.

    The Israel of El Elyon is FREE in the PROMISE - however She [Israel] is DEAD or a SLAVE in the Law. And yes, Israel is the feminine in the analogy. The Men of Judah [or Leadership] is masculine.

    So insert any woman you choose into the Analogy. Which one do you identify with? Which one would you like to identify with?

    I choose Eve before she fell, says one, but that too is only halfway home. Says WISDOM, I choose to see the TWO in ONE before the BREACH. This is the putting together of the two sticks. And yet men opine on and on in their own vanity.

    Did not the 12 disciples submit? How many cranial nerves do you have? See how it plays out in you? The answer is 12. There is one cranial nerve that went down into Egypt. It supports all of the organs. Funny how the medical profession calls this the JOSEPH NERVE.

    How many elders are around the throne - 24 right? Each cranial nerve has two branches - 2 x 12 = 24. And yet as fantastic as that is - it is WORTHLESS. This is flesh and flesh - while it is the CONTAINER of the Symbolic meaning of Spiritual matters - the flesh will not inherit. For we shall receive a NEW HEAVEN and a NEW EARTH.

    So what do Abraham and Sarah represent? The Spiritual Path.

    He is a man of Faith - the Leader [Heb 11:1 Now faith is the title-deed of things hoped for, the proof of things not seen.] and

    She is the woman of Faith - the Laity : Spiritual Church : [Isa 54:1 Shout in triumph, O barren [Sarah], thou that didst not bear; break forth into singing, and cry aloud, thou that didst not travail with child: for more are the sons of the desolate than the sons of the Married Lady, saith the LORD. ]

    He and She BIRTH the Elect Children. The Elect Church births the Elect Children. The Elect Church is Led by the Holy Spirit.

    ========================

    Anyone teaching the Scriptures in the Flesh is building a DESOLATE HOUSE.

    Isa 5:9 In Mine ears said the LORD of hosts, Of a truth many houses shall be desolate, even great and fair, without inhabitant.

    Oh these houses are full of folks who are living for this day - but they are Spiritually DEADER than a box of hammers. Essentially DIRT - BAGS full of hot air but their spirit has yet to be birthed.

    ========================

    Oh yes LET Sarah shout in TRIUMPH for she did not bring forth in her SELF WILL - Her Child - WAS A CHILD OF PROMISE.

    So lets get to that Promise shall we?

    Tit 1:1 PAUL, a servant of God, and an apostle of Jesus Christ, according to the faith of God's elect, and the full knowledge of the truth which is after godliness;

    Tit 1:2 In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began;


    Tit 3:4 But when the kindness and love of God our Saviour toward man appeared, [Ref Psalm 27 v. 1]

    Tit 3:5 Not by works of righteousness which we did, but according to His mercy He saved us, by the washing of Spiritual rebirth, and renewing by THE Holy Spirit;


    Now wherein is the FLESH? Pray tell - I can't find Sarah's womb anywhere in the foregoing. I however do see that this Heavenly Woman is THE CHURCH OF THE FIRSTBORN - according to the Promise.

    So what now of this incest argument? It finds no root in my garden. I find it to be a weed. For this is rooted in Christ JESUS and this is far from Jesus CHRIST. I find many today denying the Christ because the WORD was encrypted into the FLESH nature. To say that Jesus did not die [flesh] is to deny the current state of affairs.

    Please bear with me in my foolishness:

    1. Has the WORD been beaten, put on trial, denied and essentially buried [entombed] within the "BELLY OF A GREAT FISH"?

    2. Who did this to the WORD was it not the one who denied Him three times? The Church = Peter.

    Continuing...
    The blessing is in the hand of the doer. Faith absent deeds is dead.

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    • Michael Joseph
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      • Mar 2011
      • 1596

      #32
      Continuing....


      3. Notice Peter [the Church] HAD THE TRUTH meaning He [leadership] was being led by the Holy Spirit at one time :

      Mat 16:15 He saith unto them, But who say ye that I am ?

      Mat 16:16 And Simon Peter answered and said, "Thou art the Messiah, the Son of the living God."

      Mat 16:17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Happy art thou, Simon, son of Jonah: for flesh and blood [mortal human being] hath not revealed it unto thee, but My Father Which is in the heavens.

      And yet Peter will DENY THE WORD yet another time just before the start of the New DAY. For a rooster crows at the DAWNING OF THE NEW DAY. He is blind in his flesh.


      Therefore what do I expect to see? I expect to see a Church teaching a MORAL CODE subject to 50,000 interpretations - for they are drunk of the wine of Babylon [water] but there comes a time when that WATER shall turn to WINE. But NOT at the hands of men.

      Happy are Thou Simon Bar JONAH. SON OF THE HOLY SPIRIT.

      My Sister my Spouse IS A GARDEN ENCLOSED. Eve within the Body of Adam = Kingdom - The citizenry and the King in perfect harmony.

      Can you catch LEVIATHAN with a hook? Kingdoms of man! HOWEVER long before these kingdoms came to be THERE EXISTED A PROMISE. Before NIMROD's court and long before even matter came into existence. The Promise was renewed in ABRAHAM / SARAH even in their degradated estate.


      4. Now how many DESOLATE HOUSES do you see today being led by leadership such as LABAN? Who would SELL the Church for his own GAIN? Pray tell you do see them, yes?

      Gen_29:15 And Laban said unto Jacob, "Because thou art my nephew, shouldest thou therefore serve me for nought? tell me, what shall thy wages be?"

      Gen_29:16 And Laban had two daughters: the name of the elder was Leah, and the name of the younger was Rachel.

      Gen_29:25 And it came to pass, that in the morning, behold, it was Leah: and he said to Laban, "What is this thou hast done unto me? did not I serve with thee for Rachel? wherefore then hast thou beguiled me?"



      5. How many men and women do you see today DESOLATE HOUSES who sell themselves for hedonism? Jobbed out for Nothing. Empty inside - this is Pornography played out in real life. She [soul] is abused by all of her lovers as she refuses to submit to the one closest to her - her brother [spirit]. So she dotes over all her lovers, since she can't find love at home, and they USE her and ABUSE her. Is that about right? She is Delilah selling out Sampson.

      Talk about eating Hog Slop. Even the SERVANTS in my Fathers house had it better. [She is Bilhah and Zilpah = SERVANTS]. Well pray tell, what do you see when you look around today?

      SHALL WE CLIMB THE LADDER - SO THAT WE MIGHT COME BACK HOME?


      Spirit - Abraham
      Soul - Sarah

      Now then, are you Sarah? You cannot become Eve without crossing the CRYSTAL SEA. [Ref Book of Adam and Eve and Revelation 15:2].

      I will put it to you like this: Are you committing INCEST with yourself? HARDLY. And yet, have you even married her within the Tent? Many are widowed - there spirit sleeps on. SELF WILLED they are.

      What about those DRY BONES?

      Eze 37:2 And caused me to pass by them on every side: and, behold, there were very many in the open valley; and, lo, they were very dry.

      Eze 37:3 And He said unto me, Son of Adam, can these bones live? And I answered, O Lord GOD, thou knowest.

      Eze 37:4 Again He said unto me, Prophesy over these bones, and say unto them, O ye dry bones, hear the word of the LORD.

      Eze 37:5 Thus saith the Lord GOD unto these bones; Behold, I will cause breath [SPIRIT] to enter into you, and ye shall live:

      6. Has the twin sticks been put together globally? No.

      Can the two sticks be put together in one man? Yes.

      ===================================

      To deny one part of Christ JESUS is to deny Jesus CHRIST. Faith is the title deed. By the way, it should be clear that I am in no way shape or form promoting dogma of the Subverted Woman. I propound THE WAY.

      Joh 1:1 In the beginning [of the ages] was [already pre-existent] the Word [Christ], and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. (Gen_1:1)

      Joh 1:2 This Word was in the beginning with God.

      Joh 1:14 And the Word became flesh, and tabernacled among us, (and we beheld His glory [The Shekinah], glory exactly like an only begotten Son sent from beside the Father,) abounding in grace and truth.



      The Word = Jesus CHRIST.
      The CHRIST condescending to the Estate of The Man = Christ JESUS.
      The Man Spiritually REBIRTHED by the Holy Spirit = First Fruits. Christ JESUS was first of the first fruits.

      What is the STUMBLING BLOCK to the Churches? FREE WILL over CHRIST.

      Do you operate in your free will according to your five senses attempting to keep the way of Christ in your OWN POWER? This is Bondage. Insert any woman in the relationship [Leah and the Bond servants]

      OR do you operate in your free will choosing to submit to the Holy Spirit [in Her Administration of your life]? Have you died at the Cross Roads [The River Jordan]? Have you crossed over to being led to CHRIST by the Holy Spirit?

      "Yes, there are two paths you can go by, but in the long run
      There's still time to change the road you're on." - Stairway to Heaven

      Has David son of Jesse killed Goliath? Is it the Spirit, friend, or does the Flesh rule your house? Remember David son of Jesse did not kill Goliath in his own strength. And he struck the Giant where?

      IN THE FOREHEAD. Time to resurrect those thoughts! Only She can do it.

      Honor thy Father: Flesh aspect: Abraham.....Spiritual Aspect: my spirit, the church leaders

      Honor thy Mother: Flesh aspect: Sarah.......Spiritual Aspect: my soul, the church congregation


      CLIMBING THE LADDER:

      Honor thy Father : His Majesty El Elyon
      Honor thy Mother: El Shaddai, Wisdom, Holy Spirit

      She gives BIRTH to the VERY ELECT - the First of the First Fruits.

      ================================================== ======

      But if all you can appreciate is the flesh, then I suppose honor your father and mother in the best way that you deem appropriate. Of course that is subjective. Until that day LEVIATHAN keeps swimming in the sea of darkness.

      Shalom,
      Michael Joseph
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      • george
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        • Aug 2014
        • 329

        #33
        Originally posted by David Merrill View Post
        To get something out of the thread though
        thanks David, you have said way more than I think I was ready for, kinda speechless and now I have a headache.. from other things mainly but this read topped it off.

        I need to go work it off now then come back and read it again and then the marvelous (im sure) post/reply by Michael Joseph which I am really looking forward to also.

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        • allodial
          Senior Member
          • May 2011
          • 2866

          #34
          Resurrection was done by Elijah in the OT, so resurrection has at least one OT precedent in the Bible.

          17 And it came to pass after these things, that the son of the woman, the mistress of the house, fell sick; and his sickness was so sore, that there was no breath left in him.
          18 And she said unto Elijah, What have I to do with thee, O thou man of God? art thou come unto me to call my sin to remembrance, and to slay my son?
          19 And he said unto her, Give me thy son. And he took him out of her bosom, and carried him up into a loft, where he abode, and laid him upon his own bed.
          20 And he cried unto the LORD, and said, O LORD my God, hast thou also brought evil upon the widow with whom I sojourn, by slaying her son?
          21 And he stretched himself upon the child three times, and cried unto the LORD, and said, O LORD my God, I pray thee, let this child's soul come into him again.
          22 And the LORD heard the voice of Elijah; and the soul of the child came into him again, and he revived.
          23 And Elijah took the child, and brought him down out of the chamber into the house, and delivered him unto his mother: and Elijah said, See, thy son liveth.
          24 And the woman said to Elijah, Now by this I know that thou art a man of God, and that the word of the LORD in thy mouth is truth

          1 Kings 17:17-24 (KJV)
          2 Kings 4:35 (KJV)
          35 Then he returned, and walked in the house to and fro; and went up, and stretched himself upon him: and the child sneezed seven times, and the child opened his eyes.
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          • Michael Joseph
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            • Mar 2011
            • 1596

            #35
            What about transfiguration. Yes sir ree. Enoch, Elijah, maybe Moses (see ref in Jude). Jesus.

            The caterpillar becomes a butterfly.

            Shalom
            MJ
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            • David Merrill
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              • Mar 2011
              • 5955

              #36
              The paradigm shift is to be redeemed from the guilt. It is guilt that causes one to blindly contribute to the national debt through endorsement of private credit. It caused a nation to give up its gold.

              It is very radical and outside the box. I am grateful for people like James CAMERON who are just telling it like it is. But then, like James CAMERON I am not defending what I believe to be true. You can just look for yourselves. I linked the movie - The Lost Tomb of Jesus. It is very convincing.

              The whole thing feels like learning the truth about Santa Clause at first and does nothing to threaten salvation. This is more leading to the true concept of redemption so that the linguistics can apply. Please remember where I placed the post, after somebody here sent a PM requesting clarity. I was not sharing my research to offend anybody and I truly believe that the precepts like what Michael Joseph is elaborating on are truly enlightening mathematics. To find the Truth, this is a very wonderful thing that just makes everything all the more fascinating! - Like the prophetic calculations for Daniel to send the Magi to Bethlehem.

              This shows a whole new side to supernatural, unlocking the mysteries! But all in all I was simply feeling this is a good way to explain how and why we would furnish the national debt and provide the continuance of the abomination of fractional lending and elastic currency.
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              • Michael Joseph
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                • Mar 2011
                • 1596

                #37
                Originally posted by Michael Joseph View Post
                Has David son of Jesse killed Goliath? Is it the Spirit, friend, or does the Flesh rule your house? Remember David son of Jesse did not kill Goliath in his own strength. And he struck the Giant where?

                IN THE FOREHEAD. Time to resurrect those thoughts! Only She can do it.

                Honor thy Father: Flesh aspect: Abraham.....Spiritual Aspect: my spirit, the church leaders

                Honor thy Mother: Flesh aspect: Sarah.......Spiritual Aspect: my soul, the church congregation

                Shalom,
                Michael Joseph
                What are United States Notes and how are they different from Federal Reserve notes?"
                [Thus the dual nature of the Federal Reserve Note bearing two seals and two signatures]


                I HAVE FULLFILLED THE LAW BY MAKING MY ADMINISTRATIVE DEMAND FOR LAWFUL MONEY AS NOTICED ON THE BACK OF THE CHECKS PRESENTED TO REBUT ANY PRESUMPTION OF INTERCOURSE WITH THE FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM.


                IF you follow the analogy INTERCOURSE would be the correct term. My spirit/soul [the two become one] do not wish to submit to the husbandmen in the Federal Reserve System in Marriage. My marriage bed is for Christ alone.

                Thus I see the Trustees and I do not wish to Tort them. Said another way - and I will now go to Scripture as I always do - for where dear reader do you suppose the common law came from?

                Tit 3:10 A man that is an heretick after the first and second warning reject;

                Comment: A heretick creates scisms in the society - assembly. In Church one teaching Christ JESUS should be warned once, then twice and if he refuses to teach Jesus CHRIST, then reject him. Now stretch the tent chords of your MIND - and think about one who refuses to obey the bylaws of the Trust Agreement and yet desires to benefit under the Will. That would be called TAKING AGAINST THE WILL. That is a Tort. This is called a Tortfeaser. Let his wrong be upon his own head.

                Tit 3:11 Knowing that he that is such is subverted, and sinneth, being condemned of himself.

                Comment: One who is a tortfeaser sins against the Will and seeks to TAKE what he has no interest in. Therefore he brings judgment upon his own head. Therefore - enter stage left - the CONSTRUCTIVE TRUSTEE - a.k.a. Trustee de son Tort. This one has not been appointed to be a Trustee by those who established the assembly - therefore he wrongfully acts.

                Tit 3:14 And let our people also learn to maintain good works for necessary uses, that they be not unfruitful.

                Comment: The law boundary has been established and the Trustees have been appointed. The MAN [leadership] is in place - and the WOMAN [citizenship] = our people. So then, let the people be about the USES established by the ADMINISTRATION - The Holy Spirit. BY THE WAY - does any of this seem to even remotely be ringing any bells? I sure hope so.

                So then the use is established [necessary use] and then the people UNDERTAKE in those uses for the good of the Kingdom.

                Tit 2:14 Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.

                Comment: The United States underwrote the debt of "The United States of America" - thus creating a "more perfect Union" = a peculiar people. You might say the U.S. redeemed the U.S.A. These types play out over and over and over again. And they will continue to do so.

                What is interesting is that we also see playing out over and over and over again is the Woman [citizenship] being led into rebellion by a small people - sons of Cain. Thus the serpent in the garden plays out again and again. The insider leads the woman into apostasy. And she then leads her leadership into apostasy - she gives him the fruit [deeds]. For she receives and conceives the child.

                =======================

                Therefore MY INTENT is expressed and implied and therefore I fulfill the law. Simply put - if I make a promise, I keep the promise. Otherwise, I let the husbandmen do their job. It is not for me to interfere with them. Allodial Property is in the Husbandmen. Allodial Estate might be in the Wife in Fee Simple; however, perhaps she has been sold into Prostitution?

                But first have you been experienced?

                Hos 1:2 The beginning of the word of the LORD by Hosea. And the LORD said to Hosea, Go, take unto thee a wife of whoredoms and children of whoredoms: for the land hath committed great whoredom, departing from the LORD.


                Shalom,
                Michael Joseph
                Last edited by Michael Joseph; 09-08-14, 09:54 PM.
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                • David Merrill
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                  • Mar 2011
                  • 5955

                  #38
                  Abraham's incest?: This is absurd to me.
                  Many Jews and Christians distort the passage. And that is really my point - avoid the distortion and then accept what is - the truth is true.


                  Gen 20:12 And yet indeed she is my sister; she is the daughter of my father, but not the daughter of my mother; and she became my wife.
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                  • george
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                    • Aug 2014
                    • 329

                    #39
                    Originally posted by David Merrill View Post

                    If you demand cash you have circumnavigated the entire issue; the demand for lawful money was either made by the buyer (of your goods and services) or not.
                    NQ1) if/when I accept this cash then how do I put it on record?

                    you have demonstrated to us in the past that you purchased a case file with cash and in doing so you recorded the serial numbers of each bill, now these bills could be either/or (lawful or not) so..

                    NQ2) in order to verify these are indeed lawful moneys, one must have a record of the demand that converted them, no?


                    David, Im not sure I will ever be able to comprehend this. Im not a bible basher and I enjoy most all the different perspectives of other people regarding the book BUT if at all possible, can you please answer the two new questions I have marked above without referring to the bible?

                    Originally posted by David Merrill View Post
                    [B][I]How could a nation be so guilt-ridden as to voluntarily join in this trust agreement?

                    yeah, Im not getting it (the guilt stuff) and it just complicates the issue since I am trying to determine the technique. if there was a schematic, we could save lots of time.

                    Ive been trying to "wrap my mind around this" for at least four years now. I am not the sharpest but I dont think Im even close to approaching dullness. Ive tried for a long time now to comprehend this without interaction with you because your time is limited and I didnt want for you to have to spend much on my account however, now Im starting to think it is not me that is making this more complicated than need be. having said that I dont think you are intentionally making it over complicated either. can you explain it mechanically?


                    about your biblical perspective, it is interesting.. if you dont mind my asking, do others share your seemingly unique viewpoint and if so, what is it called?


                    same question for you Michael Joseph also, if you dont mind?


                    thanks

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                    • David Merrill
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                      • Mar 2011
                      • 5955

                      #40
                      NQ1) if/when I accept this cash then how do I put it on record?

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                      What is critical to understand is the above payment verification for demand is superfluous because the claim is with me. As recipient of the funds I will and I have stayed in honor. The Payer now owns part of my claim - my BoE and stake in Wall Street as a Patroon etc. More elegant to some of Michael Joseph's teachings is that this suitor too has a claim to approval by signature of the Declaration of Independence and therefore comes into Party of Interest character with the People in the Preamble of the Constitution(s).

                      The Instructions at the bottom of the Libel of Review state:

                      3) default judgment. After 21 days the issue is ripe for default judgment. There is a bill of exchange on file with Richard Grasso NYSE since August 13, 2001 for all the money in the world to back your judgment by fidelity bond (secured confidence.) However, it is preferable to simply rely on the truth - that the defendant never filed in the appropriate district court prior to exercising a claim. Compared to the truth, the bill is only ink on paper; a representation of the Bible's original estate belonging to the rightful heirs. Nobody has challenged the bill to date but confidence in the truth goes a lot further and requires no citing the bill.

                      The form above was simply practice so that the new suitor was ready for when it mattered:

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                      Now this expresses a claim to the intellectual property of a Case in the US District Court that has no attachments or liens.

                      NQ2) in order to verify these are indeed lawful moneys, one must have a record of the demand that converted them, no?

                      No. Only on funds that you convert to cash. If the payer is giving you cash you have no need to get a record of their demand.

                      I can tell you are very intelligent and made the presumption that you have the social conditioning just the same. This is what I was proposing is causing you to complicate this. So I went a bit overboard in order to show everybody the roots of the guilt conditioning. My objective is that you understand so I will keep diagramming this for you until we are satisfied you do.

                      It is an unequivocal interpretation but the basics are expressed through teachings like Guardians of the Grail and Holy Blood; Holy Grail etc. One item to keep in mind is that the Book of Mark was first, and the other Gospels followed suit with the same objective - to protect the Bloodline of King Jesus.
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                      • george
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                        • Aug 2014
                        • 329

                        #41
                        I just have realized that it may have not been nice to ask about putting each of your bible perspectives in categories because it is like labeling something or even like asking for your ID in a way. my bad, if you find it offensive, please accept my apologies.

                        it really is nice to converse with both of you though. way outta my league so to speak as Ive mentioned before, the best out there on these subjects as far as I can tell. just that both of them are confusing (Davids Lawful methodologies and the bible) so when they are combines its even harder.

                        I, myself havnt formed a concrete opinion of the bible and Christ but it seems to me to be a story used to control peoples. if it is good or bad I dont know and actually I think it works both ways but it is very hard to put the pieces together. I want to learn how to read the original hebrew and greek texts oneday so I can better understand it but I also think there is alot more to this than what is written.

                        the most ironic part about it is I find it easier to understand eastern philosophy than western mainly because there is so many directions christains have taken.

                        well, anyway.. thanks again and again for sharing guys. it helps alot!

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                        • David Merrill
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                          • Mar 2011
                          • 5955

                          #42
                          You are welcome George!

                          As you digest it a bit, feel free to inquire again. Remember that the power is in the demand, not the currency tendered. Consider the "lawful money" post-gold seizure to be US notes, redeemable in gold, in the form of Federal Reserve notes.

                          I, myself havnt formed a concrete opinion of the bible and Christ but it seems to me to be a story used to control peoples.
                          I think any and all religion, except of course my Pragmatism is a business plan. I will be known as the Father of Pragmatism - maybe The Martin LUTHER of the 21st Century. Try as you might though, there is no way to profit from Pragmatism as a religion; only find some peace in discovering there is no need for a supernatural interpretation.
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                          • Michael Joseph
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                            • Mar 2011
                            • 1596

                            #43
                            Originally posted by george View Post
                            I just have realized that it may have not been nice to ask about putting each of your bible perspectives in categories because it is like labeling something or even like asking for your ID in a way. my bad, if you find it offensive, please accept my apologies.

                            I, myself havnt formed a concrete opinion of the bible and Christ but it seems to me to be a story used to control peoples. if it is good or bad I dont know and actually I think it works both ways but it is very hard to put the pieces together. I want to learn how to read the original hebrew and greek texts oneday so I can better understand it but I also think there is alot more to this than what is written.

                            the most ironic part about it is I find it easier to understand eastern philosophy than western mainly because there is so many directions christains have taken.

                            well, anyway.. thanks again and again for sharing guys. it helps alot!
                            Well george, I will address your first question and then I will address the control concern. The following is not DIRECTED at you george, it is a Statement of the poor estate of many today. I make no judgments. I respect all religions. Yet I find all religions to lack severely. Religion is a CLUB - I speak now to a WAY OF LIFE.

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                            Now asking me to label the BRAND of The Way is like asking me from what authority do I speak. By asking the question, you actually make the point quite effectively. Men who are used to sitting under the Shade of other men - will naturally ask "what institution are you with?" "Who ordained you?" This is to be expected. Neo was asked "Why do my eyes hurt?" The response was "You have never used them?" Henry FORD said it another way: "The hardest thing any man will ever do is THINK."

                            The Controlled are always seeking to know who are their Controllers. And the Controllers are always seeking others to Control. There is no label on The Way. Not in pride but let me say I have more than twenty thousand hours vested in studying Scripture, Law, Trusts, Equity, Philosophy, Engineering, Mathematics and Origins. All, and I mean All of that time I count as HORSESHIT. Because it is time wasted at the feet of other men. I am unconcerned with what Other men say. I am concerned with what the Holy Spirit teaches me.

                            I have yet to tend to my Garden. For I am the Husbandman [spirit] of my Garden. Why couldn't I just be SOBER - why did I drink of the Cup full of filthiness? Which is to say man's understandings in his own SELF WILL. I have found my five senses to be LIARS.

                            Rom 3:3 For what if some did not believe? shall their unbelief make the faith of God without effect?

                            Rom 3:4 God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged.

                            Comment: Sin in IGNORANCE can be forgiven.


                            Now I don't care for labels such as Christ-Man [Christian]. It is just man trying to label another so that he can wrap his feeble mind around what he does not understand. Therefore, I can only share my experiences and what has been given to me by the Holy Spirit in Revelation. Some can receive and others can't. I refuse to argue the matter for it is up to God to give the increase and I am just your fellow Servant working in the Field [world].

                            When the student is ready the teacher will appear. Otherwise, darkness is upon the face of the deep. But only the student can know. For how am I to read minds? But the Holy Spirit can. And she is a TREE OF LIFE.

                            Now then to the idea of institutions these are all BUSINESS PLANS and therefore they are subject to the Higher Powers of man. There one goes again straight way into the PIT of CONTROL. Get to work SLAVE for your master [man] requires it of you. By what authority huh? I am FREE in Christ. I see dogs controlled by their masters. This is really sick - but it is true. And what is worse the faithful dog returns to master even after taking a beating. The four horns control the world - but RELIGION is by far the worst. One Bows down to the IDOL placed before him - because he has made a Golden CALF in MAN. Men are at his head. Not Christ. He worships MEN instead of God. He gives Homage and Service to MEN instead of God.

                            Why and How? SELF WILL. I will do as I please - or what seems right in my eyes. Therefore, my opinion is SUBJECTIVE and is therefore subject to peer review? Will I remain an ISLAND or will I enter into the SOCIETAL WOMB? Either way, I lose, for I may find myself at the other end of a gun being asked - BY WHAT AUTHORITY DO YOU SPEAK? What then friend? Darkness comes faster - I can hear the Horses already. What will you do when you are expecting war and famine and HAPPINESS HITS YOU? Will you accept the lie? Will you be able to recognize the lie?


                            Thinking about what I see all around me proves to me that Evolution is a farce. I choose NOT to grant certain givens such that the argument might proceed. Prove it - or it is just another Faith. The faithless, seek Religion in Science. Yet they show themselves as FOOLS. For Science has yet to proceed anywhere. Oh there are a bunch of fancy tricks - some smoke and mirror for the ignorant - yet when the "good doctors" are asked to prove their theories - we are left with Factors of Safety - thus imperfect knowledge - and only MODELS of reality. Thus Science is based too in Faith. Therefore, I find that Science is a Religion.

                            Those who worship at the ALTER of SCIENCE do so at the feet of men. Something about Shoulders and Giants. Pray tell, where did you get that fancy Robe Doctor, Preacher, Lawyer? And pray tell - who GAVE YOU THOSE WORDS? Why other men of course! I received them special at the College. I am squared away you know - in BASE CONSCIOUSNESS - stuck in the Checkerboard floor - controlled by other men.





                            In my MIND's eye, I have stood at the Singularity Point of Creation and I cannot see thru to the other side. Thus I take it on Faith that the things I see are made of things I don't see. And guess what my faith is rewarded - for I cannot see the sub-atomic. Thus I can "see" in the Earth NATURE revealing Her Secrets - A CREATOR - I see phi in my face, my hands, my mouth, my legs, I see Pi and Phi in number theory which begs STRUCTURE. In the First Fibonacci series I see PHI, in the second I see PI. Yet who can see and understand? I see Galaxies ordered in PHI. I see the Pine Cone, the nautilus shell, the sunflower.....

                            Finding noone to satisfy my desire to know, I TRUST in a hope that I cannot prove. And I have been rewarded as I have returned to my Mother's House - and I am renewed.

                            I will show you this in a Parable which I will decrypt but for the time being, let me direct my attention to your Statement of Control. I imagine if you are like most folks who don't look under the rocks in the stream, you will come to an opinion based on what MEN have taught you. Concerning The Way of Christ - this is NOT taught in the Churches - not at all. So I am not surprised that one might come to the conclusion you have come to. HOWEVER, upon deeper inspection, I find one who would come to that conclusion based on what men teach - well - really should not be complaining too much. I speak to Self Responsibility. I care not for what another man has to say - and I care even less for what I have learned to date. I find my knowledge is imperfect and I will be damned if I will set at the feet of fools who seek to only make a gain upon my ignorance.

                            How then will one comment concerning knowledge, when one lacks? Give me REVELATION - I count all that I have as Dung and I am willing to leave it to push on to gain Christ. But it is up to the Father to adopt a son. So I push on and keep plowing.

                            I wish to MATURE in CHRIST. The Milk is for little children.


                            Heb 6:1 Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God,

                            Heb 6:2 Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment.

                            Heb 6:3 And this will we do, if God permit.

                            continuing.....
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                            • Michael Joseph
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                              • Mar 2011
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                              continuing....

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                              Now then I promised a Parable: [the useage of man in the following is without gender it is both male/female as in mankind]

                              Joh 9:1 And as Jesus passed by, he saw a man which was blind from his birth.

                              Comment: This is EVERY MAN born blind into this Flesh Age - whose Spiritual EYES are closed and whose Flesh EYES are open. Said man has a choice - THIS IS SARAH: She can tell Abraham to lie with her bondmaiden which is to do things in her own will according to the experiences thru her Five Senses [Central Nervous System] - or She can come up by the way of the South - being Led by the Holy Spirit into the PROMISED LAND. SARAH is the Body of mankind - she is with choice. What will she choose?

                              Joh 9:2 And his disciples asked him, saying, Master, who did sin, this man, or his parents, that he was born blind?

                              Comment: They only see the Flesh - he can't see - he is blind, physically speaking. But they are looking for the CAUSE for this man's blindness. For is it FAIR for one man to come into this Age with physical eyes to see and others blind? The disciples are asking about the Angelic Age before this time. If you don't understand the previous Heaven/Earth - write me privately and I will share a detailed study. This parable is about the blinding of the Spiritual Eyes.

                              Joh 9:3 Jesus answered, Neither hath this man sinned, nor his parents: but that the works of God should be made manifest in him.

                              Comment: This man has been selected [ELECTED] for a certain duty. God is working now within mankind.

                              Joh 9:4 I must work the works of him that sent me, while it is day: the night cometh, when no man can work.

                              Comment: Jesus CHRIST was appointed Chief Trustee over the Household of God. Now then a man works in the day [light] but darkness is returning and anybody with half a bit of sense can see this fact. There will come a time when the Holy Spirit will take Her leave of man and man will have to suffer 40 days and 40 nights without the Light and the Comforter [food or water]. How much OIL you got in your lamp friend? I hope it does not go out on you? Therefore Father says "Buy gold [oil] of me now so that you may have for the time [of testing] to come.


                              Joh 9:6 When he had thus spoken, he spat on the ground, and made clay of the spittle, and he anointed the eyes of the blind man with the clay,

                              Comment: The spit is water. Water is The Logos or The Word - Pristine and Pure straight from the Mouth of Emmanuel. But he mixed it with clay. Clay is the stuff of man. As in man's theology. Therefore, this is man's teachings of the Word absent Revelation of the Holy Spirit. Notice the man still cannot SEE because he is blinded by other men. Therefore he is subject to other men. This is JONAH trapped in the Belly of the Great Fish - this Age - 6 thousand years.

                              Joh 9:7 And said unto him, Go, wash in the pool of Siloam, (which is by interpretation, Sent.) He went his way therefore, and washed, and came seeing.

                              Comment: Now then just as Christ JESUS was sent to be about His Father's work, He now sends this man - appoints this man - to go to the pool of Siloam whereuopn the man washed himself [purified himself] with the pure, unadulterated truth in Christ. As given from the Source - the SPRING or Fountain of Siloam. With WISDOM [Holy Spirit] El Elyon brought forth The WORD. She BIRTHS, she is the Fountain Head.

                              The onlookers look on and wonder - WHERE DID THIS WISDOM COME FROM? What brand of Religion is this? I don't understand.

                              Joh 9:8 The neighbours therefore, and they which before had seen him that he was blind, said, Is not this he that sat and begged?

                              Comment: Notice is this not he who sat and begged? Poor beggars indeed. Begging SCRAPS from the Masters Table - like dogs eating what is left over GRANTED BY THE HANDS OF MEN.

                              Said men, who by the way, are as RAVENOUS WOLVES - Agents of Satan in the pulpit. Leading the poor, wretched and blind into the Ditch without hope for a NEW DAY.

                              And yet the ignorant ones do not recognize their poor meager estate. You say why not? Because they have material wealth - so why build the Spiritual House? Why should I do any work at all? THAT IS WHAT PASTOR IS FOR, RIGHT?

                              Awaken, thou that sleepeth. For now is the day to buy fine gold.

                              Rev 3:15 I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot.

                              Rev 3:16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.

                              Rev 3:17 Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:

                              Rev 3:18 I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.

                              Comment: Naked indeed. What a sad sight it is.


                              What do you discern reader? Do you discern Wisdom? All credit and glory be to my Father, El Elyon and my Mother, El Shaddai by and thru Yehoshuah the Annointed of El Elyon.

                              Heb_1:9 Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God [Yehoshuah], even thy God [El Elyon], hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.

                              Shalom,
                              Michael Joseph
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                              • David Merrill
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                                • Mar 2011
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                                While I admit I have never focused much on the Exchange Stabilization Fund of 1934, I have always been keenly aware of the shift in power from the Fed to the Treasury. This is at the basis of my point here, albeit I have wandered through the guilt of the sacrificial system of thought to get here. The market analyst portrays the Exchange Stabilization Fund as "super-secret", then shows us a tour of the Congressional Record? Interesting!!

                                I really enjoyed the chart introduced at Minute 5:35. For me though this simply shows a logical correlation between the man in the office and short-term interest rates; why it is important that you might choose carefully who is appointed Secretary.

                                One thing behind my thinking is that I have the federal repository handy. Just yesterday I was looking around for something and stumbled across an interesting Resolution! [Attached.] Oddly I never find anybody else reading there? I wonder why it would seem I am one of the very few people who will go through the trouble of making the esoteric exoteric in my way of thinking. While the Congressional Records are "super-secret" for a market analyst to create a sense of awe and mystery for the YouTube viewer, it is simply a handy place to become informed. However, if I were to cast an air of mystery around our repository I might make a business plan out of conspiracy theory and claim my new religion around a profit margin!

                                This is a wonderful demonstration of the guilt brought on by the incest at the root of Judaism. Robert RUBIN suddenly tendered his resignation in time for the 5:00 News! I was interested enough to watch but sadly not to have turned on a video recorder. I grabbed the next morning's headlines instead. [However notice how Alan GREENSPAN, then the Chairman of the Fed survived the same indictment without batting an eye!]

                                So please be patient with me about the Bible allegory. It is simply where my mind was at on that particular post. I find it exciting that Pragmatism is developing into a Decree of Faith for an internationally recognized monument. More on that when it happens...


                                P.S. After watching that 10-minute video you might take a moment to reflect upon my postings, and Michael Joseph's comments too, to understand better why you would want to remove any presumed first lien by the Treasury from your property, purchased with lawful money, formed so by a demand on record.
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