Treasury Letter from 1984

[allodial]

I've explained it many times like this:

[1] The redemption of scrip for lawful money 'sponsors' the instrument into "lawful money land"--it is akin to acceptance (i.e. being the primary creditor on the instrument or at least on your issue);
[2] the tax obligation associated with naked indorsement of private credit is on the perceived gain when the FRB/bank accepts/cancels the instrument for you thusly you gain from private credit and owe the tax --THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE UNDERLYING FICA/SSA contribution --you are paying even FICA with lawful money then once the FRB-SSA-Treasury systems get processed.

I'm not sure how more clearly it can be explained. Its to do with checks/notes thusly it to do with bills of exchange, UCC, cancellation/discharge/acceptance/notes/dishonor/honor. It might help to look at the matter from a '1099-C perspective'. If I cancel/sponsor it for your 'use' then you are gaining (from doing nothing) thusly you get taxed on a 1040 schedule--like as in capital gains. Think: getting paid TWICE--once for the labor/principal that improved/passed through the estate that you jointly own, the second time from money the FRB/bank sponsored by cancelling your bill. (Tikkun Anthology?)

The FRB by design can't originate lawful money. You aren't gaining from your own money. HOW MANY TIMES MUST IT BE EXPLAINED? That doesn't affect FICA / insurance contribution requirement except it makes the inclusion LAWFUL MONEY. For those who hate 'the tax man' just maybe ***YOU** are the tax man (filling out IRS forms? collecting tax and paying it in?)! Thinking it affects FICA is like thinking because you won $20M in the lottery that you shouldn't have to pay the wire transfer fee--FICA is perhaps more like a "social credit" systemic maintenance fee.

THE SOCIAL SECURITY ADMINISTRATION IS ONE OF THE PRIMARY CREDITORS TO THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT AND HAS BEEN SINCE ITS INCEPTION. ALL OF THE LAWS PERTINENT TO SECURITIES REGULATION ARE DESIGNED TO PROTECT YOUR INVESTMENT (SECURITIES EXCHANGE ACT OF 1934, INVESTMENT COMPANY ACT OF 1940)--THOSE LAWS WERE MEANT TO CURB THE TRUSTEES OF THE POOLED ASSETS OF THE ORIGINAL INVESTORS (YOU!).


WHAT ORGANIZATION IS THE CUSTODIAN FOR BOOK ENTRY SECURITIES AND SUCH INVESTMENTS IN THE UNITED STATES? THE FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM/BANKS

It should be clear how the FRB and the SSA link together --the FRB has the role of custodian for US Government securities, the SSA is investor. HOW MANY TIMES MUST THIS BE STATED? DOES IT HAVE TO BE ON TALKSHOE TO BE BELIEVED?




HOW MANY TIMES MUST IT BE SAID THAT EACH FRB IS A CLEARINGHOUSE AND THAT CLEARINGHOUSES ISSUE OR HAVE CLEARINGHOUSE CERTIFICATES RATHER THAN LAWFUL MONEY?

Related:

• 31 CFR Part 357, Subpart B - Treasury/Reserve Automated Debt Entry System (TRADES)
• (31 CFR 357.10 - Laws governing a Treasury book-entry security, TRADES, and security interests or entitlements.)
• UCC Chapter 8 (hint: indirectly held securities)
• UCC Article 8: Will the Indirect Holding of Securities Survive the Light of Day (2002)
• Conflict of Laws for Transactions in Securities Held Through Intermediaries (2006)
• CHAPTER 33. INSURANCE - ARTICLE 8A. USE OF CLEARING CORPORATIONS AND FEDERAL RESERVE BOOK-ENTRY SYSTEM.
• SSA's $2+ Trillion Surplus
• Government Owes $2.7 Trillion to Social Security

[David Merrill]

Thank you in advance for sanitizing and sharing examples; here or on a new thread.

My point in that cryptic post is that examples are wasted on people who need examples.

[itsmymoney]

David Merrill/all,

As promised, full disclosure of what I have stated in this thread. If you need more I will provide it within reason.

The Notice of Levy was for over 10k. I had a second set of penalties for over 10k of which I paid off without a wage levy. I did not want my employer involved any further.

You will notice the change in novation starting with the 2014 file (actually 2015 tax year, deposit from 2014 check) - handwritten on the front, and adding 95(a)(2).

Thank you.
imm

[Chex]

[allodial]

I also suspect the language should focus on redemption rather than demand. If demand then subsequent to redemption.

[Chex]

Your being nice about it allodial isn't it the demand for and the redemption of? Demand that the law be followed.

[itsmymoney]

Chex,

Thanks for your insight. However, the files I posted were mostly to prove to the suitors that I 'had the goods' behind my words, and to evidence the reasons why I decided not to RILM for 2013 and 2014. The Levy occurred on CTC returns, not lawful money. However, I agree that Kelly Taylor should pay for her evil deeds but I believe the ship has sailed on that one, I'm afraid.

In summary of the past few pages of posts:
1) The Treasury Demand file is demanding RILM only on NET PAY transactions - NOT GROSS.
2) In step with that letter, I demanded lawful money only on the NET PAY checks as you can see by the 2013 files. This may pass muster with IRS, and I believe many suitors employ this method, however after Doug555's explanation on why this could be iffy I decided to wait until 2016 to put-the-ink-to-the-1040-paper, so to speak. BECAUSE I have been greatly punished financially, I am just a bit wary of taking the reduction only on net pay. Can you blame me?
3) As seen in the 2014 file, my first 2015 check/slip demand contains handwritten USC 411 and 95(a)(2) language on the FRONT of both. And, I've included basically the same language on the back of the check. You can see the difference in method from my prior demands.
4) I still need to go down to County and record my notarized new Demand for ALL transactions in lawful money. Covers GROSS PAY, all tax deductions, ATM wd's, whatever. Speaking of which: got a copy of the bank notary's Commission Certification when she signed my new Demand. Q: Can I trust her copy (as evidence) or should I get her recorded copy from the County?

You will notice the difference in tact here. I am forsaking the chance at TWO YEARS worth of RILM (on NET PAY only) because of what I believe to be a correct and more proper interpretation of facts, law and evidence-gathering behind the 'ALL transactions' method. But others want me to 'just jump in' because it worked for them. That's what I did with CTC returns. How'd that work out for me? I'd rather be safe than sorry.

[allodial]

Your being nice about it allodial isn't it the demand for and the redemption of? Demand that the law be followed.

The validity of Werfel's office seems highly questionable (i.e. is he a 'firewall'?). I would direct all related correspondence to the Treasurer of the United Staets, to the Secretary of the Treasury and to Christopher J. Meade, Chief Counsel, U.S. Department of the Treasury and cc: the State AG, the U.S. district attorney or the chief justice of whatever U.S. district court office is nearest you. Regarding demanding that the law be followed -> writ of mandamus. These days when i see "Acting {anything}" I'd tend to look up the organization chart or look for a deputy or departmental counsel to include in case the "Acting {anything}" is a 'firewall' (without bond, proper oath or office).

4) I still need to go down to County and record my notarized new Demand for ALL transactions in lawful money. Covers GROSS PAY, all tax deductions, ATM wd's, whatever. Speaking of which: got a copy of the bank notary's Commission Certification when she signed my new Demand. Q: Can I trust her copy (as evidence) or should I get her recorded copy from the County?

Off the top, usually notaries are prohibited from notarizing something to which they are a party. If you want to make a 'bulletproof package', I'd go to the county clerk or whoever the official is to get a certified copy.

[itsmymoney]

The validity of Werfel's office seems highly questionable (i.e. is he a 'firewall'?). I would direct all related correspondence to the Treasurer of the United Staets, to the Secretary of the Treasury and to Christopher J. Meade, Chief Counsel, U.S. Department of the Treasury and cc: the State AG, the U.S. district attorney or the chief justice of whatever U.S. district court office is nearest you. Regarding demanding that the law be followed -> writ of mandamus. These days when i see "Acting {anything}" I'd tend to look up the organization chart or look for a deputy or departmental counsel to include in case the "Acting {anything}" is a 'firewall' (without bond, proper oath or office).



Off the top, usually notaries are prohibited from notarizing something to which they are a party. If you want to make a 'bulletproof package', I'd go to the county clerk or whoever the official is to get a certified copy.

allodial,

That was my original thought and instinct, so I will follow-thru with the county-recorded certified copy of her commission. Thanks for confirming.

[Chex]

beyond a recordgood reporter and give him a education and take him/her to court with me, the media loves this type of news, there not done with Lerner yet.

OMB notarized evidence

[itsmymoney]

Ok, novice here with Google Drive and 'cloud' and creating a URL for the documents on Google Drive.

1) I've uploaded some docs to my 'MY DRIVE' on Google Drive. This is probably a stupid question, but until I 'share' MY DRIVE with others then those docs are private to me, correct? Probably should have asked that question prior, but here we are.

2) Doug555 mentioned TINYURL.com so I went there. They give you an example of a long url which is then converted to a small one. So let's say I convert my personal MY DRIVE url to a small one. So I then provide that tiny url on my 1040 for the IRS to view the checks/slips. My question is: So just by providing that tiny url to 'someone' (in this case IRS) they can then view those docs on my personal MY DRIVE? I was under the impression that you need to grant 'share permissions' to others to view your MY DRIVE files, so I'm confused with how this all works.

3) Is that LUMIN PDF viewer 'secure'? It's a 3rd-party viewer, but I'm probably over thinking it here. Main reason is that some of the PDF docs are upside down and I/others need the rotation feature to right-side-them up.

Any help is greatly appreciated for the novice. Thanks.

[ag maniac]

Ok, novice here with Google Drive and 'cloud' and creating a URL for the documents on Google Drive.

1) I've uploaded some docs to my 'MY DRIVE' on Google Drive. This is probably a stupid question, but until I 'share' MY DRIVE with others then those docs are private to me, correct? Probably should have asked that question prior, but here we are.

That is correct

2) Doug555 mentioned TINYURL.com so I went there. They give you an example of a long url which is then converted to a small one. So let's say I convert my personal MY DRIVE url to a small one. So I then provide that tiny url on my 1040 for the IRS to view the checks/slips. My question is: So just by providing that tiny url to 'someone' (in this case IRS) they can then view those docs on my personal MY DRIVE? I was under the impression that you need to grant 'share permissions' to others to view your MY DRIVE files, so I'm confused with how this all works.

I just did the google drive for the 1st time the other day also, but it's pretty simple really. I recall there were three options for sharing:
1 - No share, you view/edit only
2 - Anybody w/ a link you give them (IMPORTANT you check off VIEW ONLY)
3 - Everybody/Anybody which allows the "busy-bodys" to find the docs off a search engine (check VIEW ONLY of course)

3) Is that LUMIN PDF viewer 'secure'? It's a 3rd-party viewer, but I'm probably over thinking it here. Main reason is that some of the PDF docs are upside down and I/others need the rotation feature to right-side-them up.

interwebs

Any help is greatly appreciated for the novice. Thanks.

I was able to check all this stuff out about my new Google drive....I use Chrome as my browser of choice, but I also have Internet Explorer 8. So signed in @ Chrome, & I couldn't access the Google drive shared link on IE8 until I set the share correctly.

Hope this helps IMM

[JohnnyCash]

The Treasury letter is dated Nov 1 1982.

[allodial]

the treasury letter is dated nov 1 1982.

Insolence!

[itsmymoney]

Originally Posted by itsmymoney
Ok, novice here with Google Drive and 'cloud' and creating a URL for the documents on Google Drive.

1) I've uploaded some docs to my 'MY DRIVE' on Google Drive. This is probably a stupid question, but until I 'share' MY DRIVE with others then those docs are private to me, correct? Probably should have asked that question prior, but here we are.
That is correct

Originally Posted by itsmymoney
2) Doug555 mentioned TINYURL.com so I went there. They give you an example of a long url which is then converted to a small one. So let's say I convert my personal MY DRIVE url to a small one. So I then provide that tiny url on my 1040 for the IRS to view the checks/slips. My question is: So just by providing that tiny url to 'someone' (in this case IRS) they can then view those docs on my personal MY DRIVE? I was under the impression that you need to grant 'share permissions' to others to view your MY DRIVE files, so I'm confused with how this all works.
I just did the google drive for the 1st time the other day also, but it's pretty simple really. I recall there were three options for sharing:
1 - No share, you view/edit only
2 - Anybody w/ a link you give them (IMPORTANT you check off VIEW ONLY)
3 - Everybody/Anybody which allows the "busy-bodys" to find the docs off a search engine (check VIEW ONLY of course)

Originally Posted by itsmymoney
3) Is that LUMIN PDF viewer 'secure'? It's a 3rd-party viewer, but I'm probably over thinking it here. Main reason is that some of the PDF docs are upside down and I/others need the rotation feature to right-side-them up.


Originally Posted by itsmymoney
Any help is greatly appreciated for the novice. Thanks.

I was able to check all this stuff out about my new Google drive....I use Chrome as my browser of choice, but I also have Internet Explorer 8. So signed in @ Chrome, & I couldn't access the Google drive shared link on IE8 until I set the share correctly.

Hope this helps IMM

ag maniac (or anyone else well-versed here),

I uploaded a folder that contains all the lawful money (LM) scans. So should I 'tiny-url' the 'My Drive' url that shows the as-yet unopened LM folder, or open the folder that displays all the documents and 'tiny-url' that url? I'm thinking that sharing the LM folder (check the box next to it) with the 'My Drive' tiny url will allow the tiny url possesor to open the folder and view all the documents within. Does anyone know if this will work? Or do you need to open the folder and share all those files with THAT url (the url of the opened folder)?

Thank you.