Ok, I am going to take 1 or 2 last attempts at trying to clarify some things here, if we cannot make any headway then I am just going to be the majority here and sit back as an observer instead of a participant and be entertained because right now your making put more work into this then I ever had since we first started back in 2009, we have since then made it a lot simpler, with spirit comes faith, faith cannot really completely described on paper, you know the gut feeling inside that started this journey to begin with. This is attempts to address your thoughts by paragraph in post #13 and #14:
- Fine, yes finally something we can agree on is that I see the separation of remedy and solution and that is not the conscience of brain trust (paper trust).
- Fabrications; No i really do not care all about that, the fact that I even do mention accounting is for your benefit and not my own. We started out where you are all at now, but it is not where we ended up so again, I am going out of my element to help get you there, but by needing so much specific information within the confines of mammons law to complete a thought your making this more complicated then it has to be. Mammons law is the lesser of authority here, this maybe the other disagreement because of the suitors clause, to claim to be a suitor within that clause you all have to accept the lesser authority, mammons law. When you claim things upon this earth you become subject to it. That is a hard pill to swallow, but it is the truth that I know. The only time I claim anything it is first that the owner God has given to all as a gift for our use for the next generations, so when we give or receive it effects everyone in how we do that.
- Just as the states formed the United States of America in trust with each other because their representative signed on, yes the powers of separation with in that clause hold true. But despite this when the Hague was formed it created a New Trust with bringing the old trust USA into it as a whole. I see this through the chamber of commerces (plural) cities, and yes there is a United States Chamber of Commerce - http://www.uschamber.com/ as well as more up in the chain of hierchy such as Organization of American States - http://www.oas.org/en/member_states/default.asp You may not like it, but they did it anyway, and they could care less about what we think due to that Paderford vs. City of Savannah case have mentioned many times that we were not part of it. We are just " customers " to that corporation getting serviced as the DMV once told me. And you cannot get into the show without a ticket so you better have your Revenue Receipt ready. It is funny how basic life mimicks this, most movie theatres, you pay at the window to get a receipt/ticket coupon, then you the holder take that to the receiver to gain access into the show. Acts and Statutes (props) for your entertainment.
- NO, I did not say the HJR-192 emergency had ended, just the hoarding of Gold part of it. This actually happened where the Hoarding of Gold was lifted, tried to find again the act in which sealed this part of it where it makes it clear that the emergency was still in effect but the hoarding clause ended and could not find it so I had to use a substitute unfortunately since I am getting away from the whole statutory person thing we have all started deleting some of the garbage on our hard drives because of where we are at now.
- I know you keep on saying We because of this suitors clause thing and the hypothication that we are " We The People " in the constitution, I do not believe this because of a lot of things I said, but you go ahead and believe what you want, who am I to judge otherwise, one has a right to their own self determination, will you not give the same consideration?
This is reminding me of a lot of IRS letters received way in the past and others I have seen that it does not make one bit of difference what your argument is with them, they will always say that it is " frivolous " and continue to enforce their belief that you are the Person/Taxpayer they are looking for. If we are not the Person then are we really the Taxpayer or the one just giving energy into the society for consideration of energy returned which restores our bodies so we can keep giving back to society?
- I can agree that redeeming lawful money is a step in the right direction, BUT it is not the destination nor do I believe the suitors clause is either, for on lawful money who's seal is upon them greenbacks? NOT my families seal, so then who really owns it? Is Gold your God? In Reference to the one Article we should have all seen by now where Treasury was to be the Central Bank, yeah when we are in a lawful money system and makes sense because of the anthropology of the seals mentioned earlier. If all Lawful Money is kept at the central Bank and the bills get returned to following the order in the Liber Code Articles 31 and 38, do you suppose this is how indemnification happens? just like the old woman in the biblical story who gave all, do you suppose she was then indemnified ? Think about who's seal possibly was upon that coin she gave?
- Lastly in message #13 and Post #14 you are again throwing statutes at me that I really do not give a flip about, again I only mention them for your benefit. If I give everything for the benefit of all then do you suppose I would be indemnified?
If I do not own the legal title to the money or monetary system, should i be responsible for the accounting of it? I do not have a " We the People " Ego that limits my existence upon this earth. These papers, statutes, regs, the money, the metal when I claim ownership to them they limit my existence upon this earth that Promulgates the gift given to all of us by the creator. These Corporations who devise all these instruments taking resources from that gift are not my God Genesis 1:26 - 28.
This may not be your remedy, but it is my solution which many more of us are working towards. If you cannot accept that, then I post no more about any or this on the forum, as said before I will just remain an observer here in the background unless someone asks then as a fellow steward on the land who loves thy neighbor feel compelled to answer if thy spirit moves in that direction. When I get arrangements for some type of other scanner then I will just attach it to the same threads as the ones I have already started to keep it simple.
Peace be with you,
- Fine, yes finally something we can agree on is that I see the separation of remedy and solution and that is not the conscience of brain trust (paper trust).
- Fabrications; No i really do not care all about that, the fact that I even do mention accounting is for your benefit and not my own. We started out where you are all at now, but it is not where we ended up so again, I am going out of my element to help get you there, but by needing so much specific information within the confines of mammons law to complete a thought your making this more complicated then it has to be. Mammons law is the lesser of authority here, this maybe the other disagreement because of the suitors clause, to claim to be a suitor within that clause you all have to accept the lesser authority, mammons law. When you claim things upon this earth you become subject to it. That is a hard pill to swallow, but it is the truth that I know. The only time I claim anything it is first that the owner God has given to all as a gift for our use for the next generations, so when we give or receive it effects everyone in how we do that.
- Just as the states formed the United States of America in trust with each other because their representative signed on, yes the powers of separation with in that clause hold true. But despite this when the Hague was formed it created a New Trust with bringing the old trust USA into it as a whole. I see this through the chamber of commerces (plural) cities, and yes there is a United States Chamber of Commerce - http://www.uschamber.com/ as well as more up in the chain of hierchy such as Organization of American States - http://www.oas.org/en/member_states/default.asp You may not like it, but they did it anyway, and they could care less about what we think due to that Paderford vs. City of Savannah case have mentioned many times that we were not part of it. We are just " customers " to that corporation getting serviced as the DMV once told me. And you cannot get into the show without a ticket so you better have your Revenue Receipt ready. It is funny how basic life mimicks this, most movie theatres, you pay at the window to get a receipt/ticket coupon, then you the holder take that to the receiver to gain access into the show. Acts and Statutes (props) for your entertainment.
- NO, I did not say the HJR-192 emergency had ended, just the hoarding of Gold part of it. This actually happened where the Hoarding of Gold was lifted, tried to find again the act in which sealed this part of it where it makes it clear that the emergency was still in effect but the hoarding clause ended and could not find it so I had to use a substitute unfortunately since I am getting away from the whole statutory person thing we have all started deleting some of the garbage on our hard drives because of where we are at now.
- I know you keep on saying We because of this suitors clause thing and the hypothication that we are " We The People " in the constitution, I do not believe this because of a lot of things I said, but you go ahead and believe what you want, who am I to judge otherwise, one has a right to their own self determination, will you not give the same consideration?
This is reminding me of a lot of IRS letters received way in the past and others I have seen that it does not make one bit of difference what your argument is with them, they will always say that it is " frivolous " and continue to enforce their belief that you are the Person/Taxpayer they are looking for. If we are not the Person then are we really the Taxpayer or the one just giving energy into the society for consideration of energy returned which restores our bodies so we can keep giving back to society?
- I can agree that redeeming lawful money is a step in the right direction, BUT it is not the destination nor do I believe the suitors clause is either, for on lawful money who's seal is upon them greenbacks? NOT my families seal, so then who really owns it? Is Gold your God? In Reference to the one Article we should have all seen by now where Treasury was to be the Central Bank, yeah when we are in a lawful money system and makes sense because of the anthropology of the seals mentioned earlier. If all Lawful Money is kept at the central Bank and the bills get returned to following the order in the Liber Code Articles 31 and 38, do you suppose this is how indemnification happens? just like the old woman in the biblical story who gave all, do you suppose she was then indemnified ? Think about who's seal possibly was upon that coin she gave?
- Lastly in message #13 and Post #14 you are again throwing statutes at me that I really do not give a flip about, again I only mention them for your benefit. If I give everything for the benefit of all then do you suppose I would be indemnified?
If I do not own the legal title to the money or monetary system, should i be responsible for the accounting of it? I do not have a " We the People " Ego that limits my existence upon this earth. These papers, statutes, regs, the money, the metal when I claim ownership to them they limit my existence upon this earth that Promulgates the gift given to all of us by the creator. These Corporations who devise all these instruments taking resources from that gift are not my God Genesis 1:26 - 28.
This may not be your remedy, but it is my solution which many more of us are working towards. If you cannot accept that, then I post no more about any or this on the forum, as said before I will just remain an observer here in the background unless someone asks then as a fellow steward on the land who loves thy neighbor feel compelled to answer if thy spirit moves in that direction. When I get arrangements for some type of other scanner then I will just attach it to the same threads as the ones I have already started to keep it simple.
Peace be with you,
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