Where to stamp a FRN

[motla68]

That hand shake is notice of agreement Under Natural Law.

In the converse:

Pro 22:26 Be not thou one of them that strike hands, or of them that are sureties for debts.

If you recall this agreement took place in 2004, well before we created Coresource Solution in 2009, I think a little differently these days, all it is used for is a conversation piece since I have never had to use it since creating it. The new found knowledge way of life is working for me so I doubt it will be needed for anything.

Technically though we all have fallen short of that verse, with CS going in the direction of a resourced based society we are at least have an intent to go by it unlike a lot of other groups out there who are trying to enforce 20 or 30 million dollar liens, which you should know by now having been at local meetings and our other conversations.

[martin earl]

Again you all are trying to completely justify this by mammons law, are you all forgetting about the Providence and being a agent/ambassador of the one most high? I am sure you all heard about the biblical phrase one cannot have 2 masters. I am not going to try an think things out for this man nor am I going to try and predict the future, I can only live in the now.

No, I am not trying to JUSTIFY. Nor am I a servant of Mammon. But I do know more about Cops and their belief system than you do. The Sheriff is a SWORN SERVANT of what you call "mammons law". It is his JOB to uphold and protect that system. That is the sum of everything I have posted.

He is backed by an ARMY men, Judges, Attorneys and spiritual criminals who defy your "natural law" every day with ZERO repercussions.

You have no STANDING to make him do anything, he answers to the System he serves and gets paid very well to serve.

"In the mouths of 2 or 3 witnesses shall all truth be established."

If you put more stock in the witness of the Spirit to a fallen man in the service of the System than he does, that is YOUR error, not his.

Remember, there where Roman Soldiers near the Cross who testified of Jesus STANDING, but they did nothing to stop it.

Do not try to say I do not believe the Spirit cannot move people, I am proof it can, that is why I am here and not still strapping a gun on every day and "protecting and serving" the Spirit has witnessed to me EXACTLY what and WHO they are "protecting and serving".

Those men under-stand ONE THING, their own LAWS and STATUTES. I can use those laws and statutes just like Christ did, to show them they have no jurisdiction over ME and in their own diction and rules they do not rule over me.

Everything else is just a "patriot/religious conspiracy nut case and dangerous" because they are TRAINED that way.

You may be lucky enough to have a Sheriff who is different, but again, that is not the norm and it is not a protection for the rest of us who do not have that blessing.

In short, you have provided me nothing here from a Law enforcement stand point or a natural law standpoint that would have bound me when I was a Cop.

David has, it fits everything I know about natural law, Statutes, civil law, trust law, Scriptural Law et al.

And, more importantly THEY know it and are bound by it when I have the witness of a District Court to SEAL IT.

"Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in Heaven..."

That means truth and law it is re-cognizable no matter what "law" or god you are claiming you serve. There must be ORDER, because my God is not a God of Chaos, but one of Law and Order.

By your own statements your FAITH in your agreement has not been tested by fire. MINE HAS and not one of my former "brothers in arms" stood by me, in fact, they relished the thought of proving me wrong, including a Sheriff I once risked my own life to protect. They love the idea of seeing a "believer" fed to lions or at least, in cages with the rest of thieves and criminals. Been there, done that.

Peace be with you.

[David Merrill]

The agreement had no expiration date and in the notice it lets him know if more funds are needed to do his job to let me know. The calculation of how I came up with that figure were not in the notice, it was just a general rule to figure out what to offer. The money order also did have the lawful money statement on it so that was covered too.

The agreement expired a year later in 2005. You explained that already. Unless you are trying to get one over on the sheriff - six or seven years for the price of one. If you did not explain the fee evaluation from the CAFR in your conversation then you handshake is useless. Your money order was nothing more than a donation like many other people make.

Otherwise you have a pretty keen plan for not paying the taxes on the public collection system like everybody else though. However, you will probably end up paying more for fire, 911 service, police (because 911 connects to police, not the sheriff) and whatever else you select from the CAFR menu. Remember, that you cannot report a robbery to the sheriff if you are in city limits - the sheriff will refer you to police. If you out in the county though, then you will get a deputy.

I like the theory though. It is just that you do not gain anything by it and I just do not buy into your theories about mammon and the system. I think you are better enjoying your sovereignty by using the system from a lawful money standpoint. That is why the remedy is there to begin with. It is there because in 1913 the Fed was created to furnish elastic currency.

This deception and false balances of only paying the sheriff for one year and thinking he is obligated forever really bugs me about your method too.



Regards,

David Merrill.

[motla68]

The agreement expired a year later in 2005. You explained that already. Unless you are trying to get one over on the sheriff - six or seven years for the price of one. If you did not explain the fee evaluation from the CAFR in your conversation then you handshake is useless. Your money order was nothing more than a donation like many other people make.

Otherwise you have a pretty keen plan for not paying the taxes on the public collection system like everybody else though. However, you will probably end up paying more for fire, 911 service, police (because 911 connects to police, not the sheriff) and whatever else you select from the CAFR menu. Remember, that you cannot report a robbery to the sheriff if you are in city limits - the sheriff will refer you to police. If you out in the county though, then you will get a deputy.

I like the theory though. It is just that you do not gain anything by it and I just do not buy into your theories about mammon and the system. I think you are better enjoying your sovereignty by using the system from a lawful money standpoint. That is why the remedy is there to begin with. It is there because in 1913 the Fed was created to furnish elastic currency.

This deception and false balances of only paying the sheriff for one year and thinking he is obligated forever really bugs me about your method too.

Ok, you got your beliefs about that and I really do not care to argue the point any more mostly because have never needed to use it anyway also I do not think the same way today that I did back then about the system/mammon or the bible.

[David Merrill]

Understood. Thank you anyway! You have opened up some great new doors with your research. I will get back on a new thread soon.

[Anthony Joseph]

No, I am not trying to JUSTIFY. Nor am I a servant of Mammon. But I do know more about Cops and their belief system than you do. The Sheriff is a SWORN SERVANT of what you call "mammons law". It is his JOB to uphold and protect that system. That is the sum of everything I have posted.

He is backed by an ARMY men, Judges, Attorneys and spiritual criminals who defy your "natural law" every day with ZERO repercussions.

You have no STANDING to make him do anything, he answers to the System he serves and gets paid very well to serve.

"In the mouths of 2 or 3 witnesses shall all truth be established."

If you put more stock in the witness of the Spirit to a fallen man in the service of the System than he does, that is YOUR error, not his.

Remember, there where Roman Soldiers near the Cross who testified of Jesus STANDING, but they did nothing to stop it.

Do not try to say I do not believe the Spirit cannot move people, I am proof it can, that is why I am here and not still strapping a gun on every day and "protecting and serving" the Spirit has witnessed to me EXACTLY what and WHO they are "protecting and serving".

Those men under-stand ONE THING, their own LAWS and STATUTES. I can use those laws and statutes just like Christ did, to show them they have no jurisdiction over ME and in their own diction and rules they do not rule over me.

Everything else is just a "patriot/religious conspiracy nut case and dangerous" because they are TRAINED that way.

You may be lucky enough to have a Sheriff who is different, but again, that is not the norm and it is not a protection for the rest of us who do not have that blessing.

In short, you have provided me nothing here from a Law enforcement stand point or a natural law standpoint that would have bound me when I was a Cop.

David has, it fits everything I know about natural law, Statutes, civil law, trust law, Scriptural Law et al.

And, more importantly THEY know it and are bound by it when I have the witness of a District Court to SEAL IT.

"Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in Heaven..."

That means truth and law it is re-cognizable no matter what "law" or god you are claiming you serve. There must be ORDER, because my God is not a God of Chaos, but one of Law and Order.

By your own statements your FAITH in your agreement has not been tested by fire. MINE HAS and not one of my former "brothers in arms" stood by me, in fact, they relished the thought of proving me wrong, including a Sheriff I once risked my own life to protect. They love the idea of seeing a "believer" fed to lions or at least, in cages with the rest of thieves and criminals. Been there, done that.

Peace be with you.

What a great asset to have you here martin earl! Were you on the old suijuris site under a different name?

I am interested in your offerings as to how you diffuse negative roadside encounters with conditioned and ignorant LEOs who attempt to impose their will over you. We already have information about properly identifying ouselves in our True Names, but I would like your perspective on the issue since you have been on the inside and know how they think and what their cognizant weaknesses/limitations are.

Great to have you here.

[David Merrill]

Yes. Martin Earl is already an asset for us all at StSC;


There is a familiar thread in his writing that may tie to what is called natural religion - the Seven Noahide Laws. Page 1, Page 2.

Deu 15:1 At the end of every seven years thou shalt make a release.
Deu 15:2 And this is the manner of the release: Every creditor that lendeth ought unto his neighbour shall release it; he shall not exact it of his neighbour, or of his brother; because it is called the LORD'S release.
Deu 15:3 Of a foreigner thou mayest exact it again: but that which is thine with thy brother thine hand shall release;

Deu 23:20 Unto a stranger thou mayest lend upon usury; but unto thy brother thou shalt not lend upon usury: that the LORD thy God may bless thee in all that thou settest thine hand to in the land whither thou goest to possess it.

Be like the Son.

Mat 17:25 He saith, Yes. And when he was come into the house, Jesus prevented him, saying, What thinkest thou, Simon? of whom do the kings of the earth take custom or tribute? of their own children, or of strangers?
Mat 17:26 Peter saith unto him, Of strangers. Jesus saith unto him, Then are the children free.

This proverbial Babylonian Law System is for real people. Page 1, Page 2. It is difficult to prove as dominant today, but it is the foundation of all common law at the same time. It is really the first successful natural law system ever recorded and is still recorded today on a dolomite stela in the Louvre and known as The Code of Hammurabi. If I may read this into Martin Earl's post, it is prevalent current law as much that it has survived as that it is in alignment with a constant and archaic human condition like what Jesus redacted of the Ten Commands - Love the LORD thy God with all your heart, and love your neighbor as yourself.

In 1997 it surfaced in an acceptance letter to the Republic of Texas by the Sanhedrin. The Sanhedrin loosely cited Public Law 102-14 from 1991.

This Court, therefore, urges the Attorney General of the United States of America, Janet Reno, currently under the Political Leadership of President Bill Clinton to answer to the charge of failure to hear a grievance that is brought before its duly appointed Courts, and it has 90 working days in which to show cause as to why this case should not be heard before this Court and to submit documents showing that it has conformed with all treaties, conventions and wishes of the native peoples and with states accepted or annexed under the Constitutional principles and Noahide law, which was adopted as Law in the United States by Congress.

Page 1, Page 2. In trying to find the source of certain behavior and the lack of it with LEO's I really feel the links in this post might be worth your time.

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Some may only feel pertinent; not seem so much so rationally.

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And yet some may appertain only in my imagination. I wont apologize though, I think this post may be the basis of a lot of people understanding Martin Earl's post much more thoroughly.



Regards,

David Merrill.

[motla68]

Yes. Martin Earl is already an asset for us all at StSC;


There is a familiar thread in his writing that may tie to what is called natural religion - the Seven Noahide Laws. Page 1, Page 2.

Be like the Son.

This proverbial Babylonian Law System is for real people. Page 1, Page 2. It is difficult to prove as dominant today, but it is the foundation of all common law at the same time. It is really the first successful natural law system ever recorded and is still recorded today on a dolomite stela in the Louvre and known as The Code of Hammurabi. If I may read this into Martin Earl's post, it is prevalent current law as much that it has survived as that it is in alignment with a constant and archaic human condition like what Jesus redacted of the Ten Commands - Love the LORD thy God with all your heart, and love your neighbor as yourself.

In 1997 it surfaced in an acceptance letter to the Republic of Texas by the Sanhedrin. The Sanhedrin loosely cited Public Law 102-14 from 1991.



Page 1, Page 2. In trying to find the source of certain behavior and the lack of it with LEO's I really feel the links in this post might be worth your time.

http://friends-n-family-research.info/FFR/Merrill_page_30.jpg

http://friends-n-family-research.info/FFR/Merrill_page_31.jpg

http://friends-n-family-research.info/FFR/Merrill_page_32.jpg

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http://friends-n-family-research.info/FFR/Merrill_info_5.jpg

http://friends-n-family-research.info/FFR/Merrill_info_6.jpg

Some may only feel pertinent; not seem so much so rationally.

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And yet some may appertain only in my imagination. I wont apologize though, I think this post may be the basis of a lot of people understanding Martin Earl's post much more thoroughly.

This is good stuff, thanks Martin and David.
I was going to mention Reagan's p.l. 97-280 back in 1982, but it appears that this p.l. 102-14 was established 1991. Not too much then the way the rest of their system operates. Does not take a rocket science to tell that their political system is the same system with 2 different names,

I met with MJ today and we had a little discussion about that Raven and the differences of intent between Jacob and Esau, some of our discussion was relating to a post I put out last night,
about the conscience of man and making the choice of what laws meet the moral values, original intent of the one most high.
Corps/courts cannot see man in flesh and bone, if no name is given at all they will create a resulting trust(jane doe / john doe) and attempt to trick us into arguments against it, once we do that they got you in their snare.

The Coresource method we just acknowledge what they created for themselves letting them know I know what you have done. But when a express trust is created of the original intent of the one most high this is the other part of the story that needs to be completed. Maybe Y'sreal Nation is a step in that direction, will just have to see how things are setup now that their nation is officially established.
Very grateful for all that and hope to have more in the future.

[martin earl]

What a great asset to have you here martin earl! Were you on the old suijuris site under a different name?

I am interested in your offerings as to how you diffuse negative roadside encounters with conditioned and ignorant LEOs who attempt to impose their will over you. We already have information about properly identifying ouselves in our True Names, but I would like your perspective on the issue since you have been on the inside and know how they think and what their cognizant weaknesses/limitations are.

Great to have you here.

Thank you! I posted as freecell on the other forums. I will be happy answer the other questions when I have more time. Just wanted to say thank you (and David) for your kind words and warm welcome to the forum.

[Anthony Joseph]

Thank you! I posted as freecell on the other forums. I will be happy answer the other questions when I have more time. Just wanted to say thank you (and David) for your kind words and warm welcome to the forum.

Aha! Freecell, I knew you were familiar to me. I enjoyed your offerings on the other forums and I look forward to your offerings here, welcome again.

[David Merrill]

Aha! Freecell, I knew you were familiar to me. I enjoyed your offerings on the other forums and I look forward to your offerings here, welcome again.

Me too. I have enjoyed Freecell's posts!

[martin earl]

Thank you all again! As for the officers standpoint on all this:

As David has pointed out, the Court takes place on the side of the road. The Officer makes a legal determination that a Statute has been violated and initiates the arrest. (The BS that it is a detention is ridiculous, detention only occurs after an arrest has been made, not the other way around).

Now, in most cases, the officer wants to get the "person" to Identify himself and sign the appearance promise. Why?

Because traffic court means 2 things to the Officer: First, a STAT, recorded on a weekly report of production. This is good for promotions and performance reviews, which means a raise or career advancement.

Second: Citations lead to traffic courts, which mean OVERTIME pay. Most courts happen while the officer is off duty, which means more money for going to court at a time and half pay rate.

Thus, David has shown us how to give the officer what he wants (or think so anyway) by giving them the Drivers license as a Drivers License (after all, nothing on the DL states it is for ID) it is what it says it is, it shows the STATE has tested the skills of an Operator of motor vehicles.

When one states "That is not to be used for ID..." he/she is in fact, RESTRICTING their ENDORSEMENT of the DL to that of its true legal nature, a DL and not ID. Thus not allowing the Officer to "fractionalize" or amend the DL into an ID.

But, the officer is not trained in law enough to see that, and since he is only looking for a STAT, goes ahead and writes the citation and gets the signature and promise to appear.

In my years of study, I have never been exposed to a better way to give the officer what he/she wants, avoid the "Sovereign Citizen" title and all its issues and set up a proper "refusal for Cause" for the man or woman to avoid the money making scam of non-injury, no-victim 'crimes' of statute infractions.

BTW, it is a common tactic of officers to LIE about who the arresting (or charging officer) is. When one officer screws up a charge, they will often bring in a higher ranked officer to actually claim the "arrest" for themselves in an attempt to salvage the case. This has ZERO bearing on the R4C nor what should be said or done on the side of the road.

In my opinion, the entire process of getting a DL should be controlled and recorded with a reservation of rights and all signatures done in True name and "without prejudice" or "all rights claimed/reserved" above that.

That way, the signature will match the DL, the application and the citation. Also, when getting the DL remember, their Birth Certificate should be used and the same thing should be said about ID:

"That is simply to get a drivers license, it is not to be used for ID nor is that paper "me or my self"". or something to that effect. When done with a smile, the clerk will most likely just get use it for ID, but not because you endorsed them to do that.

[Anthony Joseph]

Thank you all again! As for the officers standpoint on all this:

As David has pointed out, the Court takes place on the side of the road. The Officer makes a legal determination that a Statute has been violated and initiates the arrest. (The BS that it is a detention is ridiculous, detention only occurs after an arrest has been made, not the other way around).

Now, in most cases, the officer wants to get the "person" to Identify himself and sign the appearance promise. Why?

Because traffic court means 2 things to the Officer: First, a STAT, recorded on a weekly report of production. This is good for promotions and performance reviews, which means a raise or career advancement.

Second: Citations lead to traffic courts, which mean OVERTIME pay. Most courts happen while the officer is off duty, which means more money for going to court at a time and half pay rate.

Thus, David has shown us how to give the officer what he wants (or think so anyway) by giving them the Drivers license as a Drivers License (after all, nothing on the DL states it is for ID) it is what it says it is, it shows the STATE has tested the skills of an Operator of motor vehicles.

When one states "That is not to be used for ID..." he/she is in fact, RESTRICTING their ENDORSEMENT of the DL to that of its true legal nature, a DL and not ID. Thus not allowing the Officer to "fractionalize" or amend the DL into an ID.

But, the officer is not trained in law enough to see that, and since he is only looking for a STAT, goes ahead and writes the citation and gets the signature and promise to appear.

In my years of study, I have never been exposed to a better way to give the officer what he/she wants, avoid the "Sovereign Citizen" title and all its issues and set up a proper "refusal for Cause" for the man or woman to avoid the money making scam of non-injury, no-victim 'crimes' of statute infractions.

BTW, it is a common tactic of officers to LIE about who the arresting (or charging officer) is. When one officer screws up a charge, they will often bring in a higher ranked officer to actually claim the "arrest" for themselves in an attempt to salvage the case. This has ZERO bearing on the R4C nor what should be said or done on the side of the road.

In my opinion, the entire process of getting a DL should be controlled and recorded with a reservation of rights and all signatures done in True name and "without prejudice" or "all rights claimed/reserved" above that.

That way, the signature will match the DL, the application and the citation. Also, when getting the DL remember, their Birth Certificate should be used and the same thing should be said about ID:

"That is simply to get a drivers license, it is not to be used for ID nor is that paper "me or my self"". or something to that effect. When done with a smile, the clerk will most likely just get use it for ID, but not because you endorsed them to do that.

Very well stated and the added insight into the inner workings and thought process of officers and their superiors is very helpful.

I agree with your assessment and mental model in that these "things" (DL, BC, etc) do NOT identify us unless we consent or acquiesce to that falsehood. Without that endorsement, these "things" are rendered powerless and of no consequence. Along the way, the beast will reveal itself through DISHONOR in some way. When that occurs, all bets are off and all claims from that dishonorable standing become NULL and VOID. We of course are diligent and honorable record keepers as courts of competent jurisdiction rendering the only outcome possible to stay in honor; abatement. Anything else would necessitate further dishonor in order to catch and trap you into their venue. Coercion, trickery, deceit and bully tactics are the methods of choice for this type of attempted re-venuing. Societal conditioning and controlled public information and education makes for an overwhelmingly high "success" rate in this regard.

HONOR and DISHONOR; a rightful and lawful claim can only come from one of those two positions ONLY.

[Mark Christopher]

Uh...Where do we stamp a FRN again? or do we need too? Kinda hard to tell.

OK seriously though, ME points out the left side is is the FRN and the right side is US note side and only on bills larger than a george. Also no need to stamp. David stamps them on the back not to tick off cashiers and possibly to prevent a felony (Not sure, does that go for all bills?). Motla puts a line thru the serial number (or not, lotta context on that). Oh not to forget the thread maker Delawarejones who gives the legal tender phrase the surname treatment with a red stamp.

And then it went south from there. But I see we have several great possibilities. I don't want jail time (or the chance of it) so I will have to go with stamping the back or not at all. I don't like the thought that we caught the snipe yet, he is one sly bird. But now that I think of it, the legal tender phrase for all debt pulic and private are we re-venueing the dolllar back to the re-public by claiming lawful money...hmm DJ is on to something, buuutt that felony thing, I gotta look into that more.

I have to give props to David and Motla on the thread. That was some enthraling reading kept me up till 12:30am Sorry if I condensed anyones ideas just trying to congeal my thinking.
Be Well
Mark Christopher.

[motla68]

How i figure this is that I ask: what would the pros do about this?

On the following form check out Page 2 Section 5 (certification). The little note at the bottom see what it says about striking out the language?

http://www.standard.com/annuities/eforms/10516.pdf

You can see here where it basically says if a legal determination is made then STRIKEOUT the language in section 2.

Now since I have heard a couple of stories where lawful money was demanded at a bank, the bank manager then proceeded to record the serial numbers, When asked the manager said it was to remove the serial numbers from the system. So what better way to do this then to STRIKEOUT the serial number for making the legal determination that the intent be Lawful Money.
You can pretty much say that IRS and the Federal Reserve System are on the same team from my own understanding of the way system operates.

Another thing I add is to the upper right on the border write: 12 USC 411 - Lawful Money, where this is placed comes from the determination by way of totem poles, the higher authority is always at the top, putting Lawful Money above a Federal Reserve Note. Then putting to the right has some spiritual meaning, but that is all up to you, that is just my personal conscience.