We haven't seen this happen since right before World War II.

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  • Chex
    Senior Member
    • May 2011
    • 1032

    #1

    We haven't seen this happen since right before World War II.

    Focus on the situation before World War II. Europe entered a massive economic depression after World War I. These economic problems led to political problems and the rise of Hitler and Mussolini. They also led to militarization. In the Soviet Union, the revolution led to massive economic dislocation, starvation, and politically, to dictatorship and mass murder. The Middle East was relatively stable, save that the Arabs deeply resented the British domination of the region and were quietly organizing against it. We are now at the period when all regions of Eurasia are experiencing gathering storms. In Europe, the failure of the European Union since 2008 has created economic instability that is becoming political. SourceSource

    Promises to Pay, Promises Unkept, We Won a War and Lost Our Shirts Source

    There's a lot of populism, because there's a lot of road rage. People believe the political and economic order have let them down."
    In Europe, he told CNBC, he witnessed "in the last year and a half, the tide of sort of xenophobic nationalism doing well in the parliamentary elections in Germany and France." He mentioned the Brexit vote in the United Kingdom as another example. Source

    The OTHER Reason for the American Revolution Source
    "And if I could I surely would Stand on the rock that Moses stood"
  • shikamaru
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2011
    • 1630

    #2
    Wasn't WWI caused by Europeans themselves?

    After the assassination of some duke, didn't the European nations 'clique up' to fight each other?
    Last edited by shikamaru; 09-26-16, 03:35 PM.

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    • Chex
      Senior Member
      • May 2011
      • 1032

      #3
      Thanks for that refresher course shikamaru.

      World War I with The assassination of Austria's Archduke Ferdinand set into motion a series of international events that led to World War I. This one event is widely considered the most important event in leading up to war.

      Woodrow Wilson - Some of his programs and laws included: a role in influencing the treaty for a League of Nations.

      Wilson took a major role in influencing the treaty, He had the idea for a League of Nations, Wilson took a major role in influencing the treaty. He had created the Federal Reserve System - This system is still in place today and regulates the economy by controlling the money supply.

      Despite these warnings from congress
      "And if I could I surely would Stand on the rock that Moses stood"

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      • shikamaru
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2011
        • 1630

        #4
        Originally posted by Chex View Post
        Thanks for that refresher course shikamaru.

        World War I with The assassination of Austria's Archduke Ferdinand set into motion a series of international events that led to World War I. This one event is widely considered the most important event in leading up to war.

        Woodrow Wilson - Some of his programs and laws included: a role in influencing the treaty for a League of Nations.

        Wilson took a major role in influencing the treaty, He had the idea for a League of Nations, Wilson took a major role in influencing the treaty. He had created the Federal Reserve System - This system is still in place today and regulates the economy by controlling the money supply.

        Despite these warnings from congress
        The BIS (Bank for International Settlements) was formed after WWI to handle reparations imposed upon Germany from the Treaty of Versailles around about 1930.

        Could austerity measures be likened to reparation payments?
        Last edited by shikamaru; 09-26-16, 03:45 PM.

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        • David Merrill
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          • Mar 2011
          • 5956

          #5
          Originally posted by shikamaru View Post
          The BIS (Bank for International Settlements) was formed after WWI to handle reparations imposed upon Germany from the Treaty of Versailles around about 1930.
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          • shikamaru
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2011
            • 1630

            #6
            Originally posted by David Merrill View Post
            Useful! Thank you.
            The BIS intersects with the Young Plan written in 1929 and adopted in 1930 by Owen D. Young, former ex-chairman of the Radio Corporation of America and at the time served on the board of trustees of the Rockefeller Foundation. Young also had previous experience in being a representative in previous war reparation restructuring agreements.

            BIS was trustee of the German Government International Loan (Young Loan).
            Last edited by shikamaru; 09-26-16, 03:54 PM.

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            • Chex
              Senior Member
              • May 2011
              • 1032

              #7
              If The Bank for International Settlements (BIS) is an international financial institution owned by central banks which "fosters international monetary and financial cooperation and serves as a bank for central bank"(s) then where does the one bank come to play?
              "And if I could I surely would Stand on the rock that Moses stood"

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              • shikamaru
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2011
                • 1630

                #8
                Originally posted by Chex View Post
                If The Bank for International Settlements (BIS) is an international financial institution owned by central banks which "fosters international monetary and financial cooperation and serves as a bank for central bank"(s) then where does the one bank come to play?
                My advice is to really study banking and monetary policy.
                Get out of debt. Start leveraging these entities to your benefit for wealth and privacy.

                For all intents and purposes, government is a bank.

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                • David Merrill
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                  • Mar 2011
                  • 5956

                  #9
                  Trumped by the Name above all names...




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                  • Chex
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2011
                    • 1032

                    #10
                    Originally posted by shikamaru View Post
                    My advice is to really study banking and monetary policy. Get out of debt. Start leveraging these entities to your benefit for wealth and privacy. For all intents and purposes, government is a bank.
                    Very well said shikamaru enough of ..................

                    Hitler wanted his own currency , RCA , 1985

                    The dollar represents a one dollar debt to the Federal Reserve System. The Federal Reserve Banks create money out of thin air to buy Government Bonds from the U.S. Treasury...and has created out of nothing a ... debt which the American people are obliged to pay with interest. Wright Patman

                    The Aldrich Plan is the Wall Street Plan. It means another panic, if necessary, to intimidate the people. Aldrich, paid by the government to represent the people, proposes a plan for the trusts instead. Charles August Lindbergh

                    The financial system has been turned over to the Federal Reserve Board. That Board administers the finance system by authority of a purely profiteering group. The system is Private, conducted for the sole purpose of obtaining the greatest possible profits from the use of other people's money. Charles August Lindbergh

                    Source September 5, 2014

                    Economic growth, which was subdued during the first half of the year, appears to have picked up. Household spending continues to be the key source of that growth. Turning to employment, job gains averaged about 180,000 per month over the past four months, about the same solid pace recorded since the beginning of the year.

                    A good start is where shikamaru bring me up to speed? I want a trust set-up like the Clintons foundation.
                    "And if I could I surely would Stand on the rock that Moses stood"

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                    • shikamaru
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2011
                      • 1630

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Chex View Post
                      Very well said shikamaru enough of ..................

                      Hitler wanted his own currency , RCA , 1985

                      The dollar represents a one dollar debt to the Federal Reserve System. The Federal Reserve Banks create money out of thin air to buy Government Bonds from the U.S. Treasury...and has created out of nothing a ... debt which the American people are obliged to pay with interest. Wright Patman

                      The Aldrich Plan is the Wall Street Plan. It means another panic, if necessary, to intimidate the people. Aldrich, paid by the government to represent the people, proposes a plan for the trusts instead. Charles August Lindbergh

                      The financial system has been turned over to the Federal Reserve Board. That Board administers the finance system by authority of a purely profiteering group. The system is Private, conducted for the sole purpose of obtaining the greatest possible profits from the use of other people's money. Charles August Lindbergh

                      Source September 5, 2014

                      Economic growth, which was subdued during the first half of the year, appears to have picked up. Household spending continues to be the key source of that growth. Turning to employment, job gains averaged about 180,000 per month over the past four months, about the same solid pace recorded since the beginning of the year.

                      A good start is where shikamaru bring me up to speed? I want a trust set-up like the Clintons foundation.
                      Law of Contracts
                      Law of Securities
                      Negotiable Instruments
                      Law of Associations
                      Law of Partnerships
                      Law of Companies
                      Law of Corporations
                      Law of Trusts
                      Law of Firms
                      Law of Foundations

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                      • allodial
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2011
                        • 2866

                        #12
                        Originally posted by shikamaru View Post
                        Law of Contracts
                        Law of Securities [contracts]
                        Negotiable Instruments [contracts]
                        Law of Associations [trusts and fiduciary relationships]
                        Law of Partnerships [trusts and fiduciary relationships]
                        Law of Companies [trusts and fiduciary relationships]
                        Law of Corporations [trusts and fiduciary relationships]
                        Law of Trusts [trusts and fiduciary relationships]
                        Law of Firms [trusts and fiduciary relationships]
                        Law of Foundations [trusts and fiduciary relationships]
                        1. Contract law - foundation for all money instruments, surety bonds, etc.
                        2. Torts (can also be put before or after trusts but is very important concerning liabilities that can arise out of non-contracts. Torts as 2nd is best IMHO because it primes the mind for #3 and #4; however tortious interference, negligence, deliberate indifference and the like are really important topics IMHO when it comes to trust law and property law)
                        3. Property law fundamentals (personal, possession, etc.) (really, 'real property or 'real ESTATE' law could come after trusts/equity)
                        4. Trusts, equity, estates, fiduciary relationships and suretyship (this is the stuff of office holding, drafting constitutions, etc.)
                        5. Real (means royal) property (i.e. the real estate part general property law)

                        To reiterate:

                        I. Contract Law
                        II. Torts
                        III. Property Law I (not including real estate, yet; general concepts; moveables/chattel)
                        IV. Trust & Equity; Estates (Future, possessory, non-possessory, etc.)
                        V. Property Law II: Real Property (real (royal) estate; estates in land);
                        N. Organizations (associations, companies, partnerships, joint ventures, joint stock companies, foundations, etc.)
                        N. Risk Management [basic actuarial science, indemnity agreements, guarantees, insurance (=indemnity you pay for), re-insurance, re-re-insurance]
                        N. Constitutional law

                        Re: trust law
                        IMHO trust law fundamentals and property law fundamentals are prerequisite for partnerships, companies, corporations, firms foundations (i.e. fiduciary relationships and issues pertaining to divided title or legal title). Despite the misinformation-ists that might tell you otherwise all office-holding, the Articles of Confederation and every constitution of each of the states of America is built on trust law. The difference between a trust and an estate is that an estate is always part of a trust. If the trustee is incapacitated, abdicated or dead then you might only have an estate (i.e. trust estate or trust corpus).

                        Property Law
                        Since trusts always deal with some kind of property whether tangible or intangible, the principles and fundamentals of property law and possession are very important. Property a trust estate or trust corpus is likely going to be held by the trustee ala divided title. Also: bailment, assignment or consignment.

                        ***

                        Believe me, some law school curricula are laughable. For the fundamentals, reading old books is best because they tell you a lot more. For case law new books (~2004 and after) are very important to have. IMHO to really, really dig in, having access to Restatements of the Law can be golden (but that is for after you've at least covered the basics).

                        Constitutional Law
                        IMHO, to study constitutional law without studying trusts, equity, property is training a pilot: blindfolded, with a joystick. If you don't think law school curricula are designed to prepare the professional for minimal impact, think again. Constitutional law is trust law, starting with contract law, going to property law then to trust & equity.

                        Company Law
                        Associations compared to partnerships, companies, trusts, firms, foundations... with corporation, partnerships, companies, trusts, firms (companies) and foundations (trusts) you tend to have at least one person that is held as the 'front man' or who has primary liability (general partner, director, trustee) for the organization. With associations liability can be spread across all members. It doesn't take too much pondering to see how that relates to suretyship which is a subset of contract law.

                        Money
                        All bills of exchange and promissory notes are contracts (bonds are contracts) for the delivery of money only. Tip: all endorsers of a check or sureties (of a specific kind). Two types of liability on a money instrument: primary and secondary. If a contract is for delivery of anything other than money even if money is included it is not likely going to be money or a monetary instrument.
                        Last edited by allodial; 09-28-16, 05:18 AM.
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                        "The object in life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane." -- Marcus Aurelius
                        "It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter." Proverbs 25:2
                        Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. Thess. 5:21.

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                        • Chex
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2011
                          • 1032

                          #13
                          Originally posted by allodial View Post
                          1. Contract law - foundation for all money instruments, surety bonds, etc. Money All bills of exchange and promissory notes are contracts (bonds are contracts) for the delivery of money only. Tip: all endorsers of a check or sureties (of a specific kind). Two types of liability on a money instrument: primary and secondary. If a contract is for delivery of anything other than money even if money is included it is not likely going to be money or a monetary instrument.
                          https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/31/5115https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/31/5117https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/31/5116https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/t.../subchapter-II

                          Public money is the lawful money of the United States which the Constitution authorizes Congress to issue, conferring a property right, whereas the private credit issued by the Fed is neither money nor property, permitting the user an equitable interest but denying allodial title.
                          "And if I could I surely would Stand on the rock that Moses stood"

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                          • allodial
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2011
                            • 2866

                            #14
                            Key thing: gold and silver were never officially money in the United States of America. Gold coin and silver coin are not the same as gold ore, gold bullion, silver ore or silver bullion.
                            All rights reserved. Without prejudice. No liability assumed. No value assured.

                            "The object in life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane." -- Marcus Aurelius
                            "It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter." Proverbs 25:2
                            Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. Thess. 5:21.

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                            • shikamaru
                              Senior Member
                              • Mar 2011
                              • 1630

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Chex View Post
                              https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/31/5115https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/31/5117https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/31/5116https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/t.../subchapter-II

                              Public money is the lawful money of the United States which the Constitution authorizes Congress to issue, conferring a property right, whereas the private credit issued by the Fed is neither money nor property, permitting the user an equitable interest but denying allodial title.
                              I would even step back a bit from money. Money is a tool.

                              You have your identity.
                              Your name.
                              How you conduct your personal, professional, and corporate business.

                              The structure of your holdings which may include a trust or corporation.

                              This is more deep thought, strategic thinking.

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