Company beats IRS penalties with Lawful Money

[JohnnyCash]

Welcome freedomfighter. As I understand, the company banked some of its income as lawful money by stamping the backside of deposited checks like this: http://jesse2012.com/boaCHECK.jpg Also called a 'restricted endorsement.' The similar stamped receipt shown probably functions as a reminder or indicator of that lawful money deposit. The amount appears to be over $116,000.

[John Howard]

Is there any update John Howard?

It seems they don't want to play anymore.

[David Lyn]

It seems they don't want to play anymore.

So they are leaving you alone? How long now?

[John Howard]

You do know that these posts are dated, right? And that the Philistines read them? Apparently word got back Goliath that I was approaching the battlefield with my sling and stone. They did not show up. He who attacks must vanquish, he who defends must merely survive.

[David Lyn]

You do know that these posts are dated, right? And that the Philistines read them? Apparently word got back Goliath that I was approaching the battlefield with my sling and stone. They did not show up. He who attacks must vanquish, he who defends must merely survive.

Yeah, realized that after I posted.. Stupid question

[John Howard]

Don't sweat the small stuff.

[John Henry]

IRS responses to demanding lawful money if any?

I am just curious if the IRS has come back to anyone who has applied the demanding lawful money process and disallowed the process? I have been doing the process for three years now and have success in two of those three years and have not gotten the refund check yet for 2012. I am just wondering what others in the group may have experienced in applying this process that have done it for more years.

Sometimes the IRS comes back after several years and disallows a process. Has anyone in the forum that has been doing the process had such contact from the IRS? I am not doubting the process, I am just wondering what others may have experienced? I am not very computer savy and I hope I am doing this right to get on the forum. Let me know if I am doing anything wrong. Thanks all, John Henry

[David Merrill]

I am just curious if the IRS has come back to anyone who has applied the demanding lawful money process and disallowed the process? I have been doing the process for three years now and have success in two of those three years and have not gotten the refund check yet for 2012. I am just wondering what others in the group may have experienced in applying this process that have done it for more years.

Sometimes the IRS comes back after several years and disallows a process. Has anyone in the forum that has been doing the process had such contact from the IRS? I am not doubting the process, I am just wondering what others may have experienced? I am not very computer savy and I hope I am doing this right to get on the forum. Let me know if I am doing anything wrong. Thanks all, John Henry

I do not spend much time sanitizing documentation. So you have likely seen all the examples I have around here.

Your post shows up fine!

I am glad you are having success. Lots of folks are. There is a lot to be said for taking this risk without all the confidence building.

I do not go into the statistics of suitors in detail for reasons that I do not disclose. Only one suitor has been billed the $5K FrivPen but he began to espouse Ed RIVERA's dichotomized government doctrine on his Clerk Instruction. Big mistake! I feel it was borderline entrapment considering that he now has that bill as a bill of indictment against the IRS agent.

[Treefarmer]

I am just curious if the IRS has come back to anyone who has applied the demanding lawful money process and disallowed the process? I have been doing the process for three years now and have success in two of those three years and have not gotten the refund check yet for 2012. I am just wondering what others in the group may have experienced in applying this process that have done it for more years.

Sometimes the IRS comes back after several years and disallows a process. Has anyone in the forum that has been doing the process had such contact from the IRS? I am not doubting the process, I am just wondering what others may have experienced? I am not very computer savy and I hope I am doing this right to get on the forum. Let me know if I am doing anything wrong. Thanks all, John Henry

I think that's a legitimate concern about the IRS.
The best way to experiment would be on returns which would get a refund no matter how you file them.
If the IRS threatens frivolous filing penalties a few years down the road, then replace the LM return with a "conventionally" filed return and since it will still show a refund is due, there should be no interest charges.

I've also noticed that the IRS seems to expand its confiscatory grasp ever more, where it could not reach before.
This may be due to court decisions in their favor, or secret international treaties due to the nature of the IMF, or some processes which I don't know anything about.
They seem to be able to stick their greedy covetous hands ever deeper into the bank account holders' pockets.
For example, some non-conventional ways of filing such as Pete HENDRICKSON's, worked for many years and then quit working for people.

[JohnnyCash]

It has been my experience that the IRS generally allows a one time penalty abatement. I think this also has to be considered in this case.

No Greg. Here's an example of a one-time penalty abatement:


page 2 here: http://jesse2012.com/168C_2.jpg

[David Merrill]

Thanks for the image Johnny!

[Chex]

You're welcome. And 10 to 1 there's no Mary Hannah working at the IRS. Next time you call the IRS and the representative answers, ask if that's their real name.

"My kids think I am going crazy to keep ranting about what has happened and what damage and uncertainty they face may come if there is no understanding of the issues.
As a single parent, and grandparent, homelessness for no credible reason except intentional deprivation of life, liberty and freedom, and intentional falsification of presumed grounds to justify such actions taken in bad faith and with intent to deprive another of any other unconditional right to hold or own anything but debt.
That the violations of citizens rights get worse when a complaint is filed. I have been waiting for over 3 years while being harassed , stalked , threatened and intimidated . Just going food shopping I am targeted with psychologically and emotionally traumatizing acts. The only logical conclusion is that I am a victim of a cover up of the crimes I have suffered from , as no agency has even acknowledge receiving my complaint. I have contacted all levels of my government ( U.S. ) , my representatives , and the abuse of my Rights and Dignity continue even in the privacy of my own residence". Mary Hannah
ACS Program Manager
IRS/SB/SE/Campus Compliance Services
11501 Roosevelt Boulevard
Philadelphia, Pa. 19152
mary.hannah@irs.gov
(215) 516-3672

Mary has the responsibility of the largest SB/SE Automated Collection Service Site, overseeing 350 employees on two shifts. She began her career in 1981as a part time tax examiner for Submission Processing, Error Correction. Her career changed paths when she moved over to Compliance Services in 2002 as the Collection Operation Manager. She came to ACS in 2005. Mary and her husband have three children and live in New Jersey.

All problems start with a revenue agent and their "persons".