The Rite of Sodomy

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • Michael Joseph
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2011
    • 1596

    #46
    Originally posted by allodial View Post
    Pantheism is often mentioned. However panentheism is hardly referred to.
    Thank you Allodial. Pantheism is not exactly what I am talking about. However, in a sense it is included as man declares he is God. Which is in effect a rendering of Pantheism.

    Now this thread is about Panentheism. The NAZI's were searching for "The Force" or "Vril" or "Thule" - M. P. Blavatsky describes the Fohat. Some have called her the "Anti-Moses".

    Now consider that "IN THE BEGINNING Elohim created the Heavens and the Earth. This verse is NOT the 1st verse in the Bible. We find that at John 1:1.

    Joh 1:1 In the beginning [of the ages] was [already pre-existent] the Word [Christ], and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. (Gen_1:1)

    Therefore we see Jesus is the Firstborn of God. And all other things that were made [including the Universe] were made FOR and THRU Jesus.

    Col 1:15 Who is the image [profile] of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation:

    Col 1:16 Because by Him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by Him, and for Him:

    Col 1:17 And He IS before all things, and by Him all things hold together.

    NOW THEREFORE we see that Elohim is MUCH, MUCH greater than the Universe! The universe is a LINEAR TIME expression - and we cannot put Elohim in that box. Elohim is WITHOUT space and time and at the same time WITHIN.

    However, let us realize that God is an entity [pardon the expression]. And one is begotten and others are MADE - as in appointed into the family. Jesus the anointed man was just that an entity! In other words IF you are called and you choose to place your trust in Jesus, THEN you can be 'born from the Spirit" - and those who are "Led by the Spirit" may called themselves [at title] - THE SONS OF GOD.

    These become MADE men/women! And you don't mess with a made man! Get it?

    Shalom,
    Michael Joseph
    The blessing is in the hand of the doer. Faith absent deeds is dead.

    Lawful Money Trust Website

    Divine Mind Community Call - Sundays 8pm EST

    ONE man or woman can make a difference!

    Comment

    • allodial
      Senior Member
      • May 2011
      • 2866

      #47
      Click image for larger version

Name:	universalism_pantheism_catholicism.jpg
Views:	1
Size:	54.6 KB
ID:	40939

      The above snippet is taken from page 160 of Shepherd Smith the Universalist: The Story of a Mind [1892] by William Anderson Smith. Note that the word "catholic" means "universal" in English. A pantheistic view might see lack of error in worshipping a statute if the statue is seen as "containing or being God". If we look to the Garden of Eden story, I am convinced that the first trick was to get Adam to suboordinate himself to creation rather than to serve the Creator over and above creation. This pervasive tactic shows up in an uncanny and unmistakable pattern. The common babble about the Garden of Eden story seem to miss one primary thing: that mankind is put down as having been created in the image of God--but yet the Serpent offered a 'deal' or 'special program' to "be like God". Perhaps consider that for a good moment (I mean seriously!).

      In panentheism, the universe in the first formulation is practically the whole itself. In the second formulation, the universe and the divine are not ontologically equivalent. In panentheism, God is viewed as the eternal animating force behind the universe. Some versions suggest that the universe is nothing more than the manifest part of God. In some forms of panentheism, the cosmos exists within God, who in turn "transcends", "pervades" or is "in" the cosmos. While pantheism asserts that 'All is God', panentheism goes further to claim that God is greater than the universe.
      With pantheism "everything goes", right? If good and evil can grow on the same tree what's the big deal to the pantheist if "its all the same"? With panentheism, the principle that the creator of something remains superior to his creation remains formidable fact--it is a CORNERSTONE. With pantheism, it would seem that the creator of a system could get "lost in" or "held hostage by" his own creation (i.e. if you created a horse, the horse could disobey you and since its equal to you--dad is equal to his kids and his wife thusly the kids and wife don't have to do anything dad says but somehow its allegedly "OK" for wife and kids to cannibalize dad's resources...hmmm--there are patterns ...like fractals).
      Last edited by allodial; 03-05-14, 04:48 PM.
      All rights reserved. Without prejudice. No liability assumed. No value assured.

      "The object in life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane." -- Marcus Aurelius
      "It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter." Proverbs 25:2
      Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. Thess. 5:21.

      Comment

      • Michael Joseph
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2011
        • 1596

        #48
        Originally posted by allodial View Post
        The common babble about the Garden of Eden story seem to miss one primary thing: that mankind is put down as having been created in the image of God--but yet the Serpent offered a 'deal' or 'special program' to "be like God". Perhaps consider that for a good moment (I mean seriously!).
        I love that you get that this discourse is primary and foundational to this argument. It is all connected. We must go back to the garden and even before the garden [into first Age] if we have any hope of comprehending. Therefore we Count [those smooth stones] - a stone in a river does not get smooth overnight, yes?

        I would ask you to consider my proposition that this man Adam was not the first man for he was amongst many "trees" in the garden. But that he was the first man created in the image of God for divine purpose. Therefore we call him the "Noble Man". Now I would agree with you that this special man was created in the image of God but that later God made him subject to vanity. Meaning that when Adam was placed into the garden he was NO LONGER IN THE IMAGE OF GOD.

        Notice that the word tells us that "he was made subject to vanity in hope". Where would he place his trust?

        Consider the natures of the Godhead: And this is FUNDAMENTAL.

        EL ELYON = the Most High God = All in All - His Majesty
        Yehovah and El Shaddai make up the Elohim = THE LORD and GOD ALMIGHTY - male / female aspect - natures.
        The Son is an office that Yehovah took = Yehoshuah = Yehovah the Savior which comports with Psalm 27:1.


        Psa 27:1 The LORD is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? The LORD is the strength for protection of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?

        There is but ONE Family of Elohim and we see in Jesus that he is Yehovah manifest in the Flesh. But we see in El Elyon was His Trust! Yehoshuah put down his power and took on the vanity of mankind - just as the Noble Man was made to do - in hope.

        Lucifer's claim was that noone could keep the Law. It was impossible and therefore a nullity! For you cannot impose a law that is impossible to keep! Therefore the JUDGMENT at the end of the first age [apostasy] was "Let us [me, you, Yehovah] make man in our image.

        WITNESSETH, if you have seen the Son, you have seen the Father. This comports with:

        Col 1:3 We give thanks to God the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, praying always for you,

        Col 1:5 For the hope which is stored away for you in the heavens, whereof ye heard before in the word of the truth of the gospel;

        Col 1:12 Giving thanks to the Father, Which made us efficient for the share of the lot of the saints in the light:

        Col 1:13 Who rescued us from the power of the darkness, and brought us into the kingdom of the Son of His love:

        Col 1:14 In Whom we have redemption , even the forgiveness of sins:

        Col 1:15 Who is the image [profile] of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation:

        Col 1:16 Because by Him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by Him, and for Him:

        Col 1:17 And He IS before all things, and by Him all things hold together.

        FURTHERMORE, if you have seen Michael Joseph, now you know what I looked like before! I am made in my image.

        Heb 2:9 But we see Him Who was made a little lower than angels, even Jesus (because of the suffering of death crowned with glory and honour)that He by the grace of God should taste death in the place of every man.

        Heb 2:10 For it became Yehovah, for Whom are all things, and by Whom are all things, in bringing many sons unto glory, to make the Author [The Son] of their salvation perfect through sufferings.

        Heb 2:11 For both He That sanctifieth and they who are sanctified are all of El Elyon: for which cause He is not ashamed to call them brethren,

        Heb 2:12 Saying, I will declare Thy Name to My brethren, in the midst of the church will I sing praise unto Thee.

        Heb 2:13 And again, I will put my trust upon Him. And again, Behold I and the children which God gave Me.

        Heb 2:14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of blood and flesh, Himself also likewise took part of flesh and blood ; in order that through death He might destroy him holding the power of death, that is, the devil;

        Heb 2:15 And deliver them who through fear of death were through all their lifetime subject to bondage.

        Heb 2:16 For certainly He taketh not hold of angels; but He took on Him the seed of Abraham.

        Heb 2:17 Wherefore according to all things it behoved Him to be made like to His brethren, in order that He might become a merciful and faithful High Priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people.

        NOW THEREFORE If you cannot see the fall in the first age, it is hard to understand why we are here in this age. Thru one man - the Noble Man - sin was imparted into the World. Because the TEST was to see if mankind might GROW UP. See that The Noble Man was given the opportunity to RESTORE God's Government in true balances upon the face of the Earth. For the Noble Man was "Son of God" without mother or father. Consider!

        But we see that he WILLINGLY transgressed God's Law and in doing so he subjected himself to the Rule of Lucifer/Satan. For whom ye do yield yourselves to obey you give the rule over you. I mean think about it. They had the TREE OF LIFE. And also notice that Satan does not show up until a breach was made in the man. Until then, the man, was in the perfect image of the Elohim and not subject to any vanity. But in this status no testing could occur. Love might not be perfected in choice! Therefore man was made subject to vanity to prove man!

        Alas, man has fallen into his Five senses [the five lords of the Philistines]. Instead of following the Spirit of God, man learned to rely upon his central nervous system and he partook of the tree [spinal chord] and his eyes were SHUT.

        Roots of TREE

        H6095 -
        ???
        ?a?tsa?h
        aw-tsaw'
        A primitive root; properly to fasten (or make firm), that is, to close (the eyes): - shut.

        H6096
        ???
        ?a?tseh
        aw-tseh'
        From H6095; the spine (as giving firmness to the body): - back bone.

        Language is funny yes. Ever wonder why your mid section is called a TRUNK and your arms and legs LIMBS? Your central nervous system is the TREE OF THE KNOWLEDGE OF GOOD AND EVIL. The man who was given sight saying "I see men as Trees walking".

        You Choose to place your trust in the Invisible God as did Paul, Yehoshuah, Prophets OR you declare you want a man-king [1st Sam 8].

        ========================================

        Now then, I have read that drugs and extreme sensory deprivation and/or extreme torture [sodomy] are means that ROBBERS AND THIEVES incorporate in effort to climb up over the wall to partake of the wedding banquet. They desire today to eat of the Tree of Life in their own SELF DETERMINATION.

        However, consider do you really want to live out your days in vanity? For the terrestrial body must be put off. Yet the enemy desires that you wear this flesh body forever! A linear time existence in sin - forever. And clearly - Satan - sits upon that throne!

        How how the so called MASTERS talk of their enlightenment - DNA and the Blood - big changes are coming folks and they are closer than you might think.

        There is ALWAYS a higher power - always. And all souls are subject to the higher Power! All souls - regardless of capacity! For God respects no man's person [capacity].

        Shalom,
        Michael Joseph




        a wonder teacher - who will be greatly missed.
        Last edited by Michael Joseph; 03-05-14, 09:45 PM.
        The blessing is in the hand of the doer. Faith absent deeds is dead.

        Lawful Money Trust Website

        Divine Mind Community Call - Sundays 8pm EST

        ONE man or woman can make a difference!

        Comment

        • Michael Joseph
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2011
          • 1596

          #49
          Originally posted by Michael Joseph View Post
          Alan Watt wrote a book describing this practice regarding Freemasonry and their symbols. The waning moon reflects the light [feminine] of the sun [masculine]. This is shown in Baphomet. Notice in Baphomet the moon is waning. Or diminishing! They get this CRAZY doctrine from the PRESUMPTION that Eth-Ha-Aw-Dawm [the 1st Son of God] first Adam was both male and female - and that the Female was removed from him. Seems ridiculous in light of Genesis 2:24.

          Gen 2:23 And Adam said, "This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man."

          Gen 2:24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.

          Furthermore these clowns like to espouse the laws of nature. And we see in the Bible that the men of Sodom did not have the Law of God as it was not given until some time later; however, we see Judgement falling upon those wicked men - as they choose to break the Laws of Nature. I have yet to see a man bring forth a child!

          Cutting Through the Matrix I, II and III - by Alan Watt

          The more I study the occult the more I am convinced it is all about self will. Which is to say to partake of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil - central nervous system.

          Thanks for the post - as repugnant as it is - it is nevertheless important that folks realize this agenda. For instance I saw a study a couple days ago that men 40 years of age now have 21 percent LESS testosterone than their dads did when they were 40! Talk about population control and the WUSSIFYING of men! Couple that with a Thyroid epidemic which naturally leads to Low T and a low sex drive - it is no wonder we see perversity such as we encounter today.

          A cursory study of history will show easily that this was one of the reasons Rome had such trouble - they got FAT and LAZY and sought to find other ways to satiate their lusts. IE...they could not get the same "buzz" off just the everyday normal NATURAL ways so they turned their lusts to the Unnatural and WILLINGLY opposed God and Nature.

          Thanks again for this post.

          Shalom,
          MJ
          I now realize that the male / female natures reveal the Mind / Emotion [Jacob/Leah]. What is amazing to me is the fractal nature of truth. It plays out on many different levels. Many relate that the universe if holographic which reflects the above thought concerning the nature of truth. The symbol can mean different things depending on how the allegory is framed.

          For instance the Lamb slain BEFORE the foundation of the World speaks to the only begotten Son - a Divine Spark in Man.
          Last edited by Michael Joseph; 12-23-15, 06:14 AM.
          The blessing is in the hand of the doer. Faith absent deeds is dead.

          Lawful Money Trust Website

          Divine Mind Community Call - Sundays 8pm EST

          ONE man or woman can make a difference!

          Comment

          • xparte
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2014
            • 742

            #50

            Comment

            • BLBereans
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2014
              • 275

              #51


              The above link is the source of xparte's post. I recommend it highly. I did a google search with one line that intrigued me, "God created humans to be the deciding factor in bringing to an end a conflict which has waged for aeons in the angelic ranks" and the above site showed up in the results.

              Thank you xparte for posting this; the source site has many insightful thoughts based upon solid scripture interpretation so far as I see it in brief.

              Comment

              • xparte
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2014
                • 742

                #52

                Comment

                Working...
                X