Leaving the 501(c)3 church

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  • Moxie
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2013
    • 207

    #1

    Leaving the 501(c)3 church

    and learning the whole truth.

    Can anyone recommend how to find a church or bible study that is not 501(c)3 centered? Additional blogs, YouTubes, pdf recommendations would be great!
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    I read Jim Staley's testimony on his website. It's similar to what's happening to me now. It's just time to leave. Like he said (paraphrasing), the people there won't "get it," so just go.

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    Q: Are there any hidden masonic meanings in the wearing of choir robes or pastor robes, since they can look similar to a judge's robe, but especially in non-Catholic churches?
    It's easier to fool people than to convince people they've been fooled. ~ Mark Twain
  • Chex
    Senior Member
    • May 2011
    • 1032

    #2
    Digest for H.R. 3865 113th Congress, 2nd Session. It's called "The STOP Targeting of Political Beliefs by the IRS Act of 2014"in pdf A motion to recommit made without "instructions," is not debatable, and if successful has the effect of the House killing the bill without a final vote on its passage.

    But the lucre naysayers in Roll Call #89 Classification of Taxpayers for U.S. Tax Purposes.

    2) if the IRS Commissioner determines that asking any class of taxpayers a prohibited question would aid in the efficient administration of the tax laws, they must provide a report that includes the question in the form it will be asked, describes the class of taxpayers to whom the question is would be asked, and describes the circumstances that would be required to exist before the question would be asked.

    This bill prohibits for one year not including the LM the ideological spectrummuddy the issue"Seems to me the lawyers are just trying to muddy the water and confuse the sheeple about the difference between money and debt." about the nature plays a particularly important role in the investigation because its chairman has the authority to request access to private taxpayer information. In Congress, that power is shared only by the chairman of the Senate Finance Committee.

    In the investigation of this scandal, seeing how the IRS processed taxpayer files may prove vitalSo far no word on LM.

    The U.S. Representative Elijah CummingsComment on IRS REG-134417-13

    The final roll call.
    "And if I could I surely would Stand on the rock that Moses stood"

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    • Moxie
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2013
      • 207

      #3
      Are there any followers of Christ here who truly grasp the dilemma I am describing? --> Needing eye-to-eye fellowship with other believers, yet most churches today unwittingly pay tribute to Caesar and do not grasp freedom concepts.
      It's easier to fool people than to convince people they've been fooled. ~ Mark Twain

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      • JohnnyCash

        #4
        Not sure what you're phishing for here. A simple internet search brings up many useful results & resources. Perhaps you aren't coming across as a believer, but maybe a psychopathic parasite?

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        • Moxie
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2013
          • 207

          #5
          Hi Johnny Cash,

          No, a simple internet search does not bring up what I am searching for. It is not simple to find. I am looking for a church in my area where I don't have to make a day-trip out of it. Perhaps you can suggest some words to type into the search engine to locate what I need? I am just not finding it using "non-501c3 church" or "freedom church." What are the words that will efficiently take me to what I am searching for? Thank you.
          It's easier to fool people than to convince people they've been fooled. ~ Mark Twain

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          • Keith Alan
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2012
            • 324

            #6
            Originally posted by Moxie View Post
            Are there any followers of Christ here who truly grasp the dilemma I am describing? --> Needing eye-to-eye fellowship with other believers, yet most churches today unwittingly pay tribute to Caesar and do not grasp freedom concepts.
            I totally get it. Sadly, I've gotten used to it.

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            • allodial
              Senior Member
              • May 2011
              • 2866

              #7
              If you're wanting to avoid the Counterfeit System, I would suggest looking into starting a 'cell church' or 'house to house' church and/or a bible study fellowship. You might find The Examiner quite informative as I have since I came across it in the 90s. I believe your cry was heard and here is an answer.

              Sampling of articles from The Examiner:

              Starting A Church
              The Clergy System (1)
              The Clergy System (2)
              The Churches of Christ Today
              The Church In the Home
              Pulpit Minister Seeks Employment
              An Institution, Or The Living Body Christ?.

              Other link(s):

              House Churches", an article on a biblical alternative to institutional churches
              Last edited by allodial; 03-03-14, 06:48 PM.
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              "The object in life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane." -- Marcus Aurelius
              "It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter." Proverbs 25:2
              Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. Thess. 5:21.

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              • Michael Joseph
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2011
                • 1596

                #8
                Originally posted by Keith Alan View Post
                I totally get it. Sadly, I've gotten used to it.
                I would not throw the baby out with the bath water. There are many good men and women who are ignorant to the control systems setup. I know many a 501c3 organization that does a great work and yet the principals are ignorant as to their setup. I will put it like this: IF YOU DON'T KNOW YOU HAVE A CHOICE, THEN DO YOU HAVE A CHOICE?

                I have personally written extensively on the difference between 501c3 and 508c1a organizations. I will try to dig some out of the archives. But first start with The Good Church.

                Rom 6:16 Know ye not, that to whom ye present yourselves servants for obedience, ye are servants to him whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?

                I have just touched the surface - DECLARE THYSELF - establish your Claim in Declaration of Status [estate] and begin to go in and take Possession. However, we are commanded to do all things in the Great Name of Yehoshuah. Therefore in the Name of Yehoshuah, appealing to the Providence of El Elyon, We the men and women of " ", the People of Yehovah Elohim acknowledging our King, Yehoshuah make claim......and further declare.....

                You get the point. Or I hope you do.

                Shalom,
                Michael Joseph.

                This organization that has taught me more in five years than I learned in the previous 40. In fact, I have yet to find ANY assembly that even gets anywhere close.
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                • JohnnyCash

                  #9
                  Oh, the insect is assembling a NON 501(c)3 church directory! For what purpose I can only imagine. Allow me to be second ... The Voice of One church.
                  Last edited by Guest; 03-04-14, 01:53 AM.

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                  • Moxie
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2013
                    • 207

                    #10
                    Hi everyone, thanks for the awesome links! :-)
                    It's easier to fool people than to convince people they've been fooled. ~ Mark Twain

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                    • stoneFree

                      #11
                      Don't forget The Church of the SubGenius.

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