In These Dark Days, the Church Needs Her Men to be Men

[allodial]

FYI info on a sermon that has been making a buzz as of late.

In These Dark Days, the Church Needs Her Men to be Men
By: Msgr. Charles Pope

This is a post that Satan apparently did not like. When I posted it last Thursday, the Server of the Archdiocese (literally) burnt up within an hour or two of posting. And while things are slowly coming back online, the post you are about to read could not be found in the archive file, anywhere. Thanks be to God some intrepid readers (at dclatinmass.com) had saved the post which I had not had time to back up. So here is a post that I suspect Satan did not want you to read. But the devil is a liar and God is able. :-)source]

Related: Bishop Donald Sanborne's sermon on the roles of husbands and wives (mp3)

[Keith Alan]

There's a fine sermon, but I received it differently than I would have had I received it say, five years ago.

To me, these days, the exhortation to 'be a man' means recognizing my capacity to be separate and apart from the legal fictions that make up the world.

In order to do that, I am required to recognize my Creator, and that the term 'legal fiction' is a fancy way of saying 'lie'.

So 'going forth to do battle' is more than exercising virtue. It's holding myself accountable to a higher law by being a man, and not acting in persona.

[pumpkin]

In order to do that, I am required to recognize my Creator,

This is one of the most amazing things, IMO, about studying law. I learned that first, the spirits of other realms that wish to be 'over' man, resides (here on earth) where that is most easily accomplished, government. And that man's place is under God, his Creator, just as government's place is under man, its creator. I have often thought that one of the most important lessons in this world is usurpation.

[Moxie]

I agree with Keith & Pumpkin and blame the wimpiness on the 501c-3 status of most churches since they took a benefit and can't teach the whole truth, esp. Old Testament.

Wimpy church guys was the number-one turn-off for me back in my 20s. (Still is.) Even back then, I knew something was "off" about these guys. They were like eunuchs. Even non-believers had more testosterone.

[Keith Alan]

In order to do that, I am required to recognize my Creator,

This is one of the most amazing things, IMO, about studying law. I learned that first, the spirits of other realms that wish to be 'over' man, resides (here on earth) where that is most easily accomplished, government. And that man's place is under God, his Creator, just as government's place is under man, its creator. I have often thought that one of the most important lessons in this world is usurpation.

Another important lesson is abdication.

[David Merrill]

This is one of the most amazing things, IMO, about studying law. I learned that first, the spirits of other realms that wish to be 'over' man, resides (here on earth) where that is most easily accomplished, government.

I have thought for some time that this "reality" is the highest spiritual experience. I call the errant spirits memory clusters. It would seem that all they want to do is find some human who will abdicate, turn over their God-given free will so that they can "channel" some kind of wise-sounding message and get back in on the action here.

[Michael Joseph]

While I agree that God's Church cannot and IS NOT subject to man's inventions - one must ask then naturally the question concerning "the Church of the firstborn": Where is it and who inducts man into it? It has no buildings and it has no labels - only Yehovah El Elyon can induct one into that Church by and thru Yehoshuah the Messiah. Its administration is governed by the Holy Spirit of Yehovah El Elyon. Thus man cannot come to this church in his free will. Therefore what of all these social clubs in "drag disguise"?

I knew of a man who has since died. He was a beloved teacher. He was the head of a 501c3 organization; however, I find many establish such creations in ignorance - if they only knew the truth, they would have never allowed such an election. There but for the "grace of God" go I.

Nevertheless once the truth comes - what will one do with it. Will they continue to deny the Christ or be a part of the solution? Not to equate the Spiritual with the temporal [carnal] but I too see a parallel with Lawful Money. Once the truth comes what will one do with it? Continue to sit on the sidelines in their "illusion of comfort"? I say illusion for what will that one do when the proverbial rug is yanked out from under his feet? How then will that one look down his/her nose at those who undertook for the truth?

Let us be about the solution.

Luke 10:17 And the seventy returned again with joy, saying, Lord, even the demons are subdued unto us through Thy name.

Shalom,
MJ

[Keith Alan]

I think true Christianity is incompatible with statism. That's the reality that few are willing to embrace.

[Keith Alan]

While I agree that God's Church cannot and IS NOT subject to man's inventions - one must ask then naturally the question concerning "the Church of the firstborn": Where is it and who inducts man into it? It has no buildings and it has no labels - only Yehovah El Elyon can induct one into that Church by and thru Yehoshuah the Messiah. Its administration is governed by the Holy Spirit of Yehovah El Elyon. Thus man cannot come to this church in his free will. Therefore what of all these social clubs in "drag disguise"?

I knew of a man who has since died. He was a beloved teacher. He was the head of a 501c3 organization; however, I find many establish such creations in ignorance - if they only knew the truth, they would have never allowed such an election. There but for the "grace of God" go I.

Nevertheless once the truth comes - what will one do with it. Will they continue to deny the Christ or be a part of the solution? Not to equate the Spiritual with the temporal [carnal] but I too see a parallel with Lawful Money. Once the truth comes what will one do with it? Continue to sit on the sidelines in their "illusion of comfort"? I say illusion for what will that one do when the proverbial rug is yanked out from under his feet? How then will that one look down his/her nose at those who undertook for the truth?

Let us be about the solution.

Luke 10:17 And the seventy returned again with joy, saying, Lord, even the demons are subdued unto us through Thy name.

Shalom,
MJ

Authentic Christianity is incompatible with statism. I think being part of the solution is actually being a man, not merely acting the part. And one cannot be a man until he submits to his Creator.

[Keith Alan]

I apologize for the multiple posts here. I'm unable to delete posts, or see if my messages are actually posted until well after the fact. Something to do with the site.

[Moxie]

So how do true Christians find other true Christians to create new true Christians?

[Moxie]

So where do these true Christians find other true Christians so they can create more true Christians?

[Moxie]

So where do true Christians find other true Christians to create other true Christians? Since they can't be found in mainstream churches?

[Moxie]

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[Moxie]

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