criminal syndicalism as a thing of the past

[walter]

Its funny how refusing to swear an oath can be punishable in some cases
"Juror jailed after refusing to take oath in federal court; judge calls act unprecedented"
http://www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapi...fusing_to.html


and not in others.
"Airman denied reenlistment for refusing to say 'so help me God'

http://archive.airforcetimes.com/article/20140904/NEWS05/309040066/Group-Airman-denied-reenlistment-refusing-say-help-me-God-

[David Merrill]

A slight change of subject, but this thread has turned to something I've been thinking about lately, about swearing oaths and making affirmations -



Is this not an oath? A pledge made before Divine Providence? If the question is inappropriate, please disregard or delete it.

Those 56 Signors are sometimes thought of as Party to the (Constitution) Contract. So you are right on topic; thanks!

Its funny how refusing to swear an oath can be punishable in some cases
"Juror jailed after refusing to take oath in federal court; judge calls act unprecedented"
http://www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapi...fusing_to.html


and not in others.
"Airman denied reenlistment for refusing to say 'so help me God'
http://archive.airforcetimes.com/art...y-help-me-God-

That is interesting. There is probably something in the Jury Summons process where the jury commissioner grabbed that kind of jurisdiction?

[walter]

That is interesting. There is probably something in the Jury Summons process where the jury commissioner grabbed that kind of jurisdiction?

It has to be a little more then that because I have read on the net that there has been fines and jail for some witness on the court stand that refused the oath.
They get contempt.
But I think that charged is stretched to the assumption that "you are employed by the government."



http://law.justia.com/codes/wyoming/...ection-6-5-306

2014 Wyoming Statutes

TITLE 6 - CRIMES AND OFFENSES
CHAPTER 5 - OFFENSES AGAINST PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION
ARTICLE 3 - PERJURY AND CRIMINAL FALSIFICATION
6-5-306. Refusal to appear or testify; avoidance of service; penalties; summary proceedings for contempt.

(a) A person is guilty of a misdemeanor punishable by imprisonment for not more than six (6) months, a fine of not more than seven hundred fifty dollars ($750.00), or both, if he:

(i) Refuses or intentionally fails to obey a lawful subpoena or citation which has been served upon him;

(ii) Secretes himself or leaves his residence to avoid being served with a subpoena; or

(iii) Refuses to take an oath or affirmation or, being sworn or affirmed, refuses to answer a question required by the court or presiding officer.

(b) This section shall not prevent summary proceedings for contempt.

[allodial]

Perjury. In England, perjury, as being a sin, was originally a matter of ecclesiastical cognisance.

Had a hunch and found that.

Jesus warns us all explicitly never to swear and in most courts, maybe all, the alternative of affirming is granted but that process is only admissible before a sworn in official. The surface reasoning behind swearing is that one must be subject to the judge for perjury. Thinking that through though, that submission is saying, I am like you now. I join your judiciary/lodge.

So the Fallen Angels (Azazel and company) made a religious pact or formed a secret society? Its simple enough that if someone makes a false statement on a form that he deposit a sum in money and forfeit it should the false statement give rise to injury or loss. Prepayment vs postpayment?