Gay ‘Marriage’ and the Revenge of the Gnostics

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[ATTACH=CONFIG]2688[/ATTACH]Because of their anti-creational orientation, many Gnostics them taught that sexuality is at the heart of our fallen condition. Being immersed in the material world has given rise to the unfortunate reality of sexual differentiation, and the existence of beings that are capable of uniting sexually. In the Gnostic utopia, however, the gender polarity will be obliterated, as women migrate into a condition of masculinity[ATTACH=CONFIG]2689[/ATTACH]{Remember Augustine's connection to Manichaenism and Mani's potential links to Mohammed.}

Despite the legacy of the church fathers, as well as the fact that a Gnostic devaluing of human sexuality continued to crop up throughout the history of the medieval church, on the whole the Christian tradition has done a good job in proclaiming the goodness of the world and our experiences in it, including the experience of marriage. The Roman Catholic church and the Eastern Orthodox church have even gone so far as to consider marriage a sacrament.

, and that we can glorify God by enjoying the good things in the world that He has given us, such as sex. Thus, the Bible puts a premium on the importance of frequent sex in marriage (1 Cor. 7:5; Proverbs 5:19), and even uses the one-flesh relationship between husband and wife as a type of the love between Christ and the church (Eph. 5:22-33).

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Clearly, the Gay Agenda is and has been about proliferation of a religion. The Gospel of Thomas is in total contradiction to the equality between genders among the Essenes. The hatred or disdain for women and the material reality is contrary to the book of Genesis/Sepher Bereshit:

"And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day." Genesis 1:31

Homosexual Activist Admits True Purpose of Battle is to Destroy Marriage

It all seems to be about destroying a man's right to practice sexual purity, to have control and determination over his children or to have any wife be held to her responsibilities. To have a social institution that promotes the headship of men over their families, that promotes the family as an institution or organization that is a government itself is what they are against. In other words, they are against the idea of man being made in the likeness or image of God.

Related:

• Homosexual Activist Admits True Purpose of Battle is to Destroy Marriage

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[allodial]

The heretical Gnostic disdain for the physical realm might tie interestingly into the notion of Nimdrodic worship of mother and baby-child. Take any given family. If there are problems, who is to blame as far as pop culture goes? The dad? "Its your fault dad" or "I'm here because of you so its your responsibility to give me all that I want". Who wants to one believe MOM ever lies or plays tricks with birth control or lies about being infertile or date rapes a man--or that wife's or gf's dad sets out to use his daughters to snooker or control other men (to gather $$$ and goodies)? Who has eyes to see that maybe the Great Dragon hoarding things or blinding mens' minds is maybe what has made the World seem miserable? "Its father's fault that we're here. He has to serve us and we're entitled to this and that." "WORSHIP (BE TOTALLY ENSLAVE FOR AND UNDER) WIFE/GF/EX-GF AND THE CHILDREN OR WE'LL SEND ARMED THUGS AFTER YOU TO ENFORCE MAN-WORSHIPS (ENSLAVED FOR)-MOM(YOUR WIFE/GF/EX-GF YOU HAD CHILDREN WITH)-AND-CHILD(REN)-RATHER-THAN-THE-OTHER-WAY-AROUND-RELIGION!"

Ever wonder why judges and the State might ever have been so eager to allow MOTHER to run off with CHILD? Ever notice how in those pictures the mom and child are all by themselves in the photos and dad is nowhere to be seen? Kind've like like Hagar and Ishmael sent off by themselves away from Abraham and Sarah? Maybe the deem the DAD to be a "demiurge" of some kind? Who would ever have considered child support and family courts could ever, ever have been run by judges applying their philosophies (neo-Platonic or otherwise) or secret religion and thereby treating fathers as demiurges who they encourage to give up all of their authority and dignity to worship MOTHER (WIFE/GF/EX-GF) and CHILD(REN). So maybe the reason they deny or refuse to admit to the maternal aspects of fatherhood (i.e. that men have a maternal and loving nature) is because they have a religion that paints the FATHER to be cold/harsh (i.e. their minds are blinded to all else): but then if their religion shapes their world-view, that would explain why they'd do the things they'd do, wouldn't it?

Are you a good dad? Did you slave for MOTHER and CHILD(REN) this year enough to buy all the gadgets and trinkets you see? Or did they have to lock you up and put you in jail for failure to perform your CHILD SUPPORT (MOTHER and CHILD worship) duties!?

Through the generations, in this idolatrous worship, Nimrod became the false Messiah, son of Baal the Sun-god. In this false Babylonish system, the "Mother and Child" (Semiramis and Nimrod reborn), became chief objects of worship. This worship of "Mother and Child" spread over the world. The names varied in different countries and languages. In Egypt, it was Isis and Osiris. In Asia, Cybele and Deoius. In pagan Rome, Fortuna and Jupiterpuer. Even in Greece, China, Japan, Tibet is to be found the counterpart of the Madonna, long before the birth of Christ! Source: Bible verses about Mother and Child Worship

So under anti-traditional-family Communism, the male citizens would be forced to worship MOTHER and CHILD--all the single mom and their kids supported by the labor of men who don't even necessarily know the children and the dad's barred from holding any authority or sway whatsoever over them---only: serve/worship (support..as in child support) MOTHER and CHILD. Ever notice how the FATHER's name is most always in the most liable and lowest position on birth certificates?

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The link to male-male homosexuality is in the heretical Gnostic disdain for the physical which in turn links to their disdain for procreation and the related hatred/shunning of females and thus the promotion of BUGGERY. So they see two men in buggery as some kind of "spiritual triumph". The homosexual male as 'priest'. Its ironic that many claim to be turned off from the Bible because its "strict" about sex or because they claim the Bible to be against sex--its not the Bible it was the heretical Gnostics.

It is clear, they are promoting a religion or a set of religions.

Related:

• Bible verses about Mother and Child Worship

[allodial]

In the Bible, marriage is a covenant relationship. Licenses weren't required AFAIK. The licensing of marriage was something instituted in 1500s by Roman Catholic organizations to knowledge. It may have existed in other ancient societies.

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Nimrodic worship is the foundation for every religion which denies the Creator/creation paradigm. Every religion which denies a personal God/Creator, who is active and present in our lives and Who is Providential in the affairs of man, the heavens and the earth, has its roots firmly planted in the "Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil".

Nimrod was the first man to organize and establish a worldly kingdom in opposition to his Creator. He summoned the power of the Evil One (The Adversary) and willfully rebelled against our Father in Heaven.

Name one faith/belief that exists in the world (*besides the true Body of Christ, the saints, the followers of Jesus of Nazareth as God incarnate) which believes in the eternal Creator/creation paradigm whereby our Father in Heaven will always be above His creation while also maintaining a personal and loving relationship with it/us?

None exists or have ever existed*.

There are only two religions that have ever existed or will ever exist; that which believes in the Creator/creation paradigm and that which does not.

Please know the definition of "religion" as I am using it here is as follows...

"conduct indicating a belief in a divine power," - said "divine power" being ONLY The Almighty Creator God, our Father in Heaven as proclaimed by Jesus of Nazareth.

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=religion

[BLBereans]

A blast from the past...

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/172195150/Communist-Goals---1963-Congressional-Record.pdf

I cannot find a link to the actual Congressional Record; perhaps someone with superior search skills than I can find it. If not, the local campus library should be able to provide it for viewing.

Whether one believes these "Communist Goals" were serious endeavors by people with a proactive agenda or not, one cannot escape the reality of the implementation of the majority of this list and the painfully obvious consequences on people and society.

Nimrod would be proud.

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our Father in Heaven as proclaimed by Jesus of Nazareth.

Nimrodic worship is the foundation for every religion which denies the Creator/creation paradigm. Every religion which denies a personal God/Creator, who is active and present in our lives and Who is Providential in the affairs of man, the heavens and the earth, has its roots firmly planted in the "Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil".

Nimrod was the first man to organize and establish a worldly kingdom in opposition to his Creator. He summoned the power of the Evil One (The Adversary) and willfully rebelled against our Father in Heaven.

Name one faith/belief that exists in the world (*besides the true Body of Christ, the saints, the followers of Jesus of Nazareth as God incarnate) which believes in the eternal Creator/creation paradigm whereby our Father in Heaven will always be above His creation while also maintaining a personal and loving relationship with it/us?

None exists or have ever existed*.

There are only two religions that have ever existed or will ever exist; that which believes in the Creator/creation paradigm and that which does not.

Please know the definition of "religion" as I am using it here is as follows...

"conduct indicating a belief in a divine power," - said "divine power" being ONLY The Almighty Creator God, our Father in Heaven as proclaimed by Jesus of Nazareth.

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=religion

Curiosity is the experience of choice the Christ placed between two thieves is the good or the evil Christ's message when life itself is a master thief Sin not sinners or self not selves . redeem ourselves or redeem self. life ends in death Christ has no death so self can destroy any good or evil who destroys belief the master thief be as worship is evil man worship woman worship money self it stops at [Christ it is finished] whatever worship was accepted with Nimrod is as acceptable now as then to Man not God .Mans war with God it is finished Mans war with Man, Self redeem a lawful king. Mans curiosity lends itself to knowledge the tree was a forbidding curiosity.Christ ends that with the knowledge one thief believes one cant .Rock or the hard place between faith needs fear the battle is known and its over in Christ who takes the fight too Christ ones without fear or faith, the idea that art's main purpose is to supply moral uplift and edification"picture life without Christ paint over truth forgery.

[BLBereans]

Curiosity is the experience of choice the Christ placed between two thieves is the good or the evil Christ's message when life itself is a master thief Sin not sinners or self not selves . redeem ourselves or redeem self. life ends in death Christ has no death so self can destroy any good or evil who destroys belief the master thief be as worship is evil man worship woman worship money self it stops at [Christ it is finished] whatever worship was accepted with Nimrod is as acceptable now as then to Man not God .Mans war with God it is finished Mans war with Man, Self redeem a lawful king.

If I could follow your cryptic manner of writing, I may be able to respond. Your writing is so difficult to parse, it makes me ignore you which I believe is unfortunate. Don't you notice that most people on this forum take the time to punctuate and form cohesive sentences? You spend a good amount of time on this forum, why not expend a little effort and make your posts readable?

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The tower was a zodiac corruption of heavenly events that rendered the night sky into the our pagan Greek theatre for actors persons read the stars pay its actors its principality municipality why 400 yrs before Christ they knew his coming Galileo had shit on this night shift or pre Pagan Knighthood,s [Vincent stary stary night Don Mclean] Know fear and faith Christ died knowledge cant hide.whats the teacher know depends on who he works for when works give me away, Babel the hunters and gathers of worship wordships any language .

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well its not my intent i have no method and i will edit where offending its story telling and with a lack of education i just rely on edification i verbalize a response that is my best shot at my perspective its painfully apparent to parse and when its annoying i apologize too that end . The self edification its still in its infancy the ignorance is mine its just been shared words are cryptic in thoughts. ones reading explains his contribution read wrong or cant be read working on both as we are both unfortunate. with my works

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Re: Pedophilia (psychological) vs Nature (bio-spiritual)
Pedophilia as a mental disorder is pretty much sexual attraction to someone of the opposite gender who has yet reached puberty. If the object of the attraction has reached at least 12 or 13 years of age, then such attraction would no longer be pedophilia by definition. The reasoning for this is that there is a invisible communication between the genders to support sexual processes. Those signaling systems are lacking between people of the same gender. Once a 12 or 13 y/o girl starts ovulating, visible signals, pheromones and other non-visible signals start functioning (among the visible signals would be: breasts, hips, hair, etc.).

Scientific experiences were done that showed that male moths were attracted to female moths even when the female moths were sealed in containers. In other words, there are invisible radiations and communications that a man or female might respond to. The idea is that you would not be sexually attracted to someone that doesn't have the visible, chemical or radiant signals for sexual attraction--such as a little child or someone of the same gender. It is suggested that the genitals themselves are involved in the communication and testes even the sperm 'vibe' with a ready pair of ovaries or eggs. Women are said to have the strongest desire to have sex in such a manner as to prevent missing the chance to get an egg 'fertilized'--i.e. the female would be more forthcoming in her signalling around this time. Birth control pills, of course, put an unusual spin on things.

Thusly, so-called 'sexual attraction' to the same gender would be primarily if not wholly psychological rather than at all bio-spiritual--it would be merely psychological. True sexual attraction would be bio-spiritual rather than mere psychological pleasure-seeking). In other words, the bio-spiritual systems of neither men nor animals communicate sexual attraction between the same gender. There are no processes for it. It would be a learned or programmed behavior. Of course, affection and fondness aren't sexual attraction. Love and sex are distinct and different--not at all the same.

Eunuchs & Hysterectomies
To knowledge, enunch and females that have hysterectomies (not widely published for medical $$$ reasons) lose sexual interests. Why? The non-visible signalling systems are no longer present. For the same reason, a 21 y/o man might not be sexually attracted to a woman who has reached menopause and has lost visible attractors (the super skinny woman fetish always struck me to be pedophilic subliminally because it pushes attraction to a rather underdeveloped pre-pubescent form...following that and more recently female models are starting to be selected for looking masculine).

In view of the non-male-male-buggery-related facts, the biological arguments for male-male homosexuality fail.

Lesbianism
Lesbianism as a practice is merely throwing off men altogether--even seeking sexual pleasure without men. However, but I'd say 90%+ of the so-called "lesbians" I've met periodically have in stealth sought sexual encounters after men on a periodic bases (has to do with bio-chemistry of female reproductive system being 'unhappy' unless it receives semen from time to time). Most of them evidenced 'bad experiences' with males. However, the so-called 'lesbians' that tend to be 'hard care' have reached menopause (this again proves the point that homosexuality is without support in biological process). The biggest pushers of feminism and lesbianism on your local campus are likely to be femmes who have reached menopause. Their recruits: mainly 17+ year old girls who are ovulating and whom they aim to put to task for pleasure seeking (i.e. turning the young, tender girls into sex objects using baseless psycho-political mumbo jumbo as bait). Their tactics: psychological. Enough said.

The eunuch and hysterectomy factors tend toward evidencing yet further the total lack of biological basis for male-male sexual attraction. Again natural affection, fondness or warm fuzzies among friends isn't sex.

Poop Attraction
There is a fetish called 'scat'. Perhaps there are those who would argue that those who have an affinity for such are 'sexually attracted' to feces.

Re: homosexuality and DSMV
Homosexuality was taken off the DSMV for political reasons such as the staff being bullied or being non-professional biased rather than for scientific reasons. Anyone that really understands sexuality's bio-spiritual mechanisms would see through much of the propaganda and lies. One isn't normally attracted to a little child because none of the signals are being put off to give rise to it (its worth noting that hormones in milk are changing the age-related timing for puberty in females ). Thusly a man isn't attracted to another man for bio-spiritual reasons (i.e. true sexual attraction is lacking) because sperm do not attract each other they compete with each other. Furthermore, who goes to a nightclub with poop scented cologne--normal people would be repelled by the smell. The biology-based arguments fall there. To wholly equate love with sexuality is of course part of yet another propaganda line. Men can love men without any sexual contact or connotation whatsoever. Sex and love are hardly synonymous.

Male-male homosexuality and female-female homosexuality
They are completely different for obvious bio-spiritual reasons. From observation, male homosexuals use "lesbians" as a propaganda shield to hide behind.

Re: Pedophilia and Pedastery
Perhaps they would view "gay person" with AIDs or some venereal disease spreading it to others even to little children would be "just who they are".

So is there such as thing as "pedophobia" along with "homophobia"? Ah there is a big difference between fear (phobia) and disgust.

Signs of A Degraded Society
A lot is said when a society's members on the whole equate the age for starring in a porn movie with the age of consent for marriage or sex--totally different things but I'd say more than 85% of the people I've interviewed don't see the distinction (i.e. their view is one where all sex is porn--which isn't a Biblical view at all) reflecting that they regard sexual activity and pornography to be synonmous and have the rather conceited habit of presuming "everyone" to be like they themselves. At the same time, one might be surprised how many folks attempt to equate marriage and sex but then when you point out how easy it might be to "get laid" without being married their arguments start breaking down PDQ.'

There are those who suggest that a man with more than one wife or desiring to have more than one wife "must be" a "sex maniac". But when the same man can get laid by a femme stranger he meets at a coffee shop within an hour of meeting, and then repeat again and again--marriage could not possibly be a sole motivation for sexual gratification. But yet "pedophiles" and "gays" are allegedly "normal". Doesn't add up.

History seems to show that what happens when societies start heading for destruction: [1] women start being loose and throw off all regard for anything but for their pleasure (family and kids become of little to zero concern); [2] societies given to homosexuality have been destroyed one way or another as if it was some kind of signal of some kind that all lawful government had been disposed of and so..then came the end.

Signs of A Degraded Society II: Economics of Pregnancy in the UK
In the UK, they say that even 13 y/o girls admit to getting pregnant young for ECONOMIC REASONS--i.e. how much money they can get. Regard for family or sanctity of life isn't even necessarily in the picture. If 13 y/o girls are that 'hip' to 'the game' how hip might their moms be?

Islam and other belief/political systems
The marriage of grown men to 8 or 9 y/os is allegedly promoted or suggested in the Koran.

Storing Seed In the Sewer
If a farmer started throwing good seed into the toilet or storing it in the sewer, other farmer's might think something to be wrong with his head. Even gay male farmers. Enough said.

Texas Sodomy Case Deception
The case that allegedly 'overturned' sodomy laws, is the same case that promotes the notion of marriage having nothing to do with sex...but yet in Maine and other states they used the same case to excuse teaching little children sexual fetishes. If it has nothing to do with sex, why are they using the case as an excuse to teach sexual fetishes to 5th graders in Maine?

The point though, isn't really to put down 'male homosexuals'. Its just, the arguments founded on fallacies are simply not founded on good foundations. Straight people should be allowed to be straight rather than be forced to accept someone else's sexual fetishes--because loving someone doesn't necessarily have anything to do with sex. Disgust is neither fear nor hatred. Besides, was any lawful government ever given authority to promote sexual fetishes?

Perhaps see also: secular humanism (man as soulless animal), temple desecration, sex magick.

Related:

• Sociolbiology, Edward Osborne Wilson
• Rocket to Uranus - Anal Intercourse and the O.T.O.
• Was Muhammad a Pedophile?
• Homosexuality and Witchcraft

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My opinion:

If women are only giving their best (sexually) to 20% of the men, this will cause a good majority of the remainder to check out of society (going ghost, etc.)

Being said remainder have no stake in the society i.e. marriage; children; et al, why should they concern themselves with it?

Women being loose in their youth while attempting to change lanes as they age is about to come to an end, I believe.

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Its interesting to ponder history from the perspective of considering societies that 'imploded' or met with destruction as societies whose chiefest, underwriting-defending Men got fed up with the behavior of ingrateful, disloyal, feral women and the children they indoctrinated and to the extent the chiefest, underwriting-defending Men decided to withdraw their protections and allowed the nearest hostiles to have at them.

Those that I know of who underwrite projects and deal with risk mitigation are saying that with Gay Marriage they are finding it difficult morally to support or to underwrite a society so bent against sound morals and good character (mind you they feel the same way about racist, bigoted governments that allow police to terrorize Blacks--they are finding it difficult to support even projects they are enthused about). Perhaps that is why the money has been drying up?

Consider, angels as being real and being completely happy to defend innocents and moral people but who by virtue of their official requirements cannot defend people who willingly and knowingly engage in certain activities, so the angels exit.

"Let us remove hence." -What multitude of voices was heard saying prior to the destruction of the temple at Jerusalem back around 70 AD

22 The men turned away and went toward Sodom, but Abraham remained standing before the Lord.[b]

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