Does "the Whole Earth" Mean "the Whole Planet" In Scripture?

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  • allodial
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    • May 2011
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    #1

    Does "the Whole Earth" Mean "the Whole Planet" In Scripture?

    Here is an article that IMHO is very much worth considering. The Scofield/Futurist Club wants everyone to believe that Revelations is speaking of some New World Government taking over the entire planet. Could they be wrong?



    Daniel 4:1
    King Nebuchadnezzar, To the nations and peoples of every language, who live in all the earth: May you prosper greatly!
    Did Nebuchadnezzar write to the Chinese too?

    Daniel 5:18, 19
    All nations will serve him and his son and his grandson until the time for his land comes; then many nations and great kings will subjugate him
    Did Norway or Indonesia serve Nebuchadnezzar?

    1 Kings 4:34
    And there came of all people to hear the wisdom of Solomon, from all kings of the earth, which had heard of his wisdom.
    Did the people of Peru come to hear King Solomon?

    2 Kings 17:29
    But every nation still made gods of its own and put them in the houses of the high places which the people of Samaria had made, every nation in their cities in which they lived.
    Did the Australian Aboriginals make gods and place them in the houses of the high places that the people of Samaria made?
    Did the Assyrian kings lay waste to the Japanese and Japan?

    Daniel 8:5
    As I was thinking about this, suddenly a goat with a prominent horn between its eyes came from the west, crossing the whole earth without touching the ground.
    Did Alexander the Great sweep across the whole planet in his military campaign. Did he cross Australia?

    So now, what about these verses?

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    "The object in life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane." -- Marcus Aurelius
    "It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter." Proverbs 25:2
    Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. Thess. 5:21.
  • xparte
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    • Sep 2014
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    #2
    Does prophecy just speak to a world religious domination and just the foreshadowing of Pagan Nations Church and State hardly rely on God as they dominate.If faith was prophecy its still a government tool .

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    • allodial
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      • May 2011
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      #3
      Well the counterfeits also have their "prophecies" and eschatological paradigms. Many would like the planet to forget about 70AD. Those who rejected Jesus as messiah are trying to drag everyone into expectation of their version of a messiah so they'd rather the world forget or deny what happened happened. The destruction of the temple in 70AD, some would have us believe it all to have been an allegory...but clearly the relics and the historical record speak of something far from mere allegory.
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      "The object in life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane." -- Marcus Aurelius
      "It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter." Proverbs 25:2
      Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. Thess. 5:21.

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      • xparte
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        • Sep 2014
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        #4
        Its Christ message that rejecting the truth is a different Religious aspect and outcome for a messianic prophecy . concerning the temple business Christ destroyed the enemies of a Hebrew Nation as the promised messiah temple corruption ended with its destruction that s one prophetic prophecy out the rubble A church and state further punish the truth of Christ . Rejection of Christ is how a secular world thrives . anti Christ and anti Cryptic . anti Christ bye Choice or default is his message any less prophecy as ones his own temple truth cant be destroyed The following book is a hard look at how far people went before 70 AD The Golden Bough: A Study in Magic and Religion is a wide-ranging comparative study of mythology and religion, written by Scottish anthropologist Sir James George Frazer (1854--1941). It offered a modernist approach, discussing religion dispassionately as a cultural phenomenon, rather than from a theological perspective. Although most of its theories have subsequently been exploded (the most famous one being that of the relationship between magic, religion and science), its impact on contemporaneous European literature was substantial.
        The Golden Bough attempts to define the shared elements of religious belief, ranging from ancient belief systems to relatively modern religions such as Christianity. Its thesis is that old religions were fertility cults that centred around the worship of, and periodic sacrifice of, a sacred king. This king was the incarnation of a dying and reviving god, a solar deity who underwent a mystic marriage to a goddess of the earth, who died at the harvest, and was reincarnated in the spring. Frazer claims that this legend is central to almost all of the world's mythologies, and he offers a plethora of colourful examples from all over the world. Moreover, his book is written in an admirable style, seldom excelled by his more modern colleagues.
        The Golden Bough Part 1, A Study in Magic and Religion; A True Masterpiece of Comparative Study of Mythology by James Frazer,
        Audiobook,https://youtu.be/MvpaAixWcP0 Its why we need a Christ now and why they needed him then of all faith is and will ever be is truth.

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        • allodial
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          • May 2011
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          #5
          A lot of people hate on those who are rightly called Christians because of the intentional evil done by those who hate the Bible and its doctrines and who hate those of Christ's lawful assembly throughout the planet called Earth (false impersonation its called). For insight (don't let the impostors distract you from the underlying truth), look at what a Reverend Sydney Smith had to say back in the 1800s (note I only came across this a few days ago):

          Let us ask (he says) if the Bible is universally diffused in Hindostan, what must be the astonishment of the natives to find that we are forbidden to rob, murder and steal--we who, in fifty years, have extended our empire from a few acres about Madras over the whole peninsula and {over} sixty millions of people, and exemplified in our public conduct every crime of which human nature is capable? What matchless impudence to follow up such practice with such precepts! If we have common prudence, let us keep the gospel at home, and tell them that Machiavelli is our prophet, and the god of the Manicheans our god. {Note: the connection between Manicheanism, Augustine and Islam is veritable} Source: The Cornhill Magazine (1878), Volume 38, page 232
          The LORD will enter into judgment with the ancients of his people, and the princes thereof: for ye have eaten up the vineyard; the spoil of the poor is in your houses. What mean ye that ye beat my people to pieces , and grind the faces of the poor? saith the Lord GOD of hosts. Isiah 3:14-15 (KJV) (commentaries here)
          3:10-15 The rule was certain; however there might be national prosperity or trouble, it would be well with the righteous and ill with the wicked {the true and faithful believer is without blame}. Blessed be God, there is abundant encouragement to the righteous to trust in him, and for sinners to repent and return to him. It was time for the Lord to show his might. He will call men to a strict account for all the wealth and power intrusted to and abused by them. If it is sinful to disregard the necessities of the poor, how odious and wicked a part do they act, who bring men into poverty, and then oppress them!


          In the fantasy novels, dragons are typically hoarders of gold and have at least two horns on their heads. The hoarding of wealth results in poverty, slavery, crime. Unjust weights and balances results promotes inequity/iniquity.

          Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. Matthew 7:20 (KJV)
          A false balance is abomination to the LORD: but a just weight is his delight. Proverbs 11:1
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          "The object in life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane." -- Marcus Aurelius
          "It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter." Proverbs 25:2
          Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. Thess. 5:21.

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          • xparte
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            • Sep 2014
            • 742

            #6
            In short what,s not to be in accepted in Christ any good one can do is natural the first nations peoples are just as Christ like as Aboriginals minus our missionary they had there own spiritual life it was about balance not control even as tribes fought it was only for balance domination astonishment of the natives to find that we are forbidden to rob, murder and steal the profits and prophecy is about dominance Rome established an empire hers.The cult is as old as life itself.

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            • allodial
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              • May 2011
              • 2866

              #7
              Originally posted by xparte View Post
              In short what,s not to be in accepted in Christ any good one can do is natural the first nations peoples are just as Christ like as Aboriginals minus our missionary they had there own spiritual life it was about balance not control even as tribes fought it was only for balance domination astonishment of the natives to find that we are forbidden to rob, murder and steal the profits and prophecy is about dominance Rome established an empire hers.The cult is as old as life itself.
              From what I gather Nimrod and his posterity were and are about control: [1] establish a city or polity; [2] kidnap people placing them under brutal military/police control; [3] brainwash their children with fallacies complex enough to call a 'religion' as a means of keeping them in line (i.e. control)--"the earth is flat, you'll fall off if you go too far"--"the Indians will kill you if you leave the Plantation", etc.; [4] anyone that can expose the charade is attacked {Seth, Jeremiah, Isaiah and Jesus all exposed the charade; perhaps what Abraham did was prosecute war against the charade?}

              The First Nation people and the Aboriginals were probably exposed to the pure doctrine of the Ancient Egyptians before it got corrupted--perhaps along the lines of the same doctrines Moses and Shem set out to preserves.

              Originally posted by xparte
              all faith is and will ever be is truth.
              What someone believes is very important. A lot of people think prophecy is always about telling the future. To prophecy is to edify. A true prophet edifies. A false prophet does the opposite. If a false prophet knows a comet will strike point A tomorrow at noon and kill everyone in 10 miles range, he would tell people to gather at noon tomorrow at point A for 'salvation'. A false prophet would suggest allowing yourself to be sodomized by 12 men in a special ceremony to be a way to "open your third eye" and to lead to "salvation" but it will tend towards destruction. A true prophet gives forth living waters. A false prophet gives forth poison or dust.

              The reason the true saints are being attacked is because they are able to intelligently expose the charade.

              But he that prophesieth speaketh unto men to edification, and exhortation, and comfort. He that speaketh in an unknown tongue edifieth himself; but he that prophesieth edifieth the church." 1 Corinthians 14:3-4
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              "The object in life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane." -- Marcus Aurelius
              "It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter." Proverbs 25:2
              Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. Thess. 5:21.

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              • xparte
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                • Sep 2014
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                #8
                The Christ in us need to turn up the fury where and when is a daily compute great site the banners are point plus the good exposer exposes the truth even while still in search for it one place to start is with the Christ in us all.Thnx lodi A path is less travelled searching alone.

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                • xparte
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                  #9

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                  • allodial
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                    #10
                    Is it at all a bit strange that the first Southern State that kindled the spark of war with the US Govt flew a flag like this:

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                    "The object in life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane." -- Marcus Aurelius
                    "It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter." Proverbs 25:2
                    Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. Thess. 5:21.

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                    • xparte
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                      • Sep 2014
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                      #11

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                      • allodial
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                        • May 2011
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by xparte View Post
                        ...nothing more then Kings Sultans & Queens profiteering in Gods name.
                        Its like maybe at some point they forgot who they were working for, if they ever were working for anyone other than themselves. Or maybe some of them were only ever working for themselves and only gave lip service to the God of Christ as a front to build an audience among the free with hopes of turning the free into captives. In shepherding (i.e. to be a hero) souls, one sets good ensample rather than exhibiting the characteristics of a bad ex-ample who ex-ited the original set or got cast out and took up a lead role in a fig leaf cage.
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                        "The object in life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane." -- Marcus Aurelius
                        "It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter." Proverbs 25:2
                        Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. Thess. 5:21.

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                        • xparte
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                          • Sep 2014
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                          #13
                          Most reside on ancient statues. Church its shepherding [cover ups]that fig leaf cage is like the Man,s garden its deliberate ignorance of God. tiger in the cage stalking evangelism shepherding hate with scripture .When one stops searching for Truth he stops being free in Christ as God is truth who better encourage truth then Christ seeking Christ is not seeking religion yet Man has used Biblical words as his religious debate and conquest leaving truth for a Religion or picking a truth that suits his debate. Placing Christ before religion ends ones internal doubt about religious motive he who controls God is a Church debate .Each step in truth is a day without self debate.

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                          • walter
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                            • Nov 2012
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                            #14
                            the abode of man" (as opposed to the heavens or the underworld)"flat; to spread," on the notion of "spread out," "but the semantics are highly problematic," according to Beekes, who notes the similarity of meaning to Greek plazein "to make devious, repel, dissuade from the right path, bewilder," but adds, "it is hard to think of a formal connection."

                            So called because they have apparent motion, unlike the "fixed" stars. Originally including also the moon and sun; modern scientific sense of "world that orbits a star" is from 1630s. An enlarged form of Greek planes, planetos "who wanders around, wanderer," also "wandering star, planet," in medicine "unstable temperature."



                            world (n.)

                            Old English woruld, worold "human existence, the affairs of life," also "a long period of time," also "the human race, mankind, humanity," a word peculiar to Germanic languages (cognates: Old Saxon werold, Old Frisian warld, Dutch wereld, Old Norse verold, Old High German weralt, German Welt), with a literal sense of "age of man," from Proto-Germanic *weraldi-, a compound of *wer "man" (Old English wer, still in werewolf; see virile) + *ald "age" (from PIE root *al- (2) "to grow, nourish").

                            Originally "life on earth, this world (as opposed to the afterlife)," sense extended to "the known world," then to "the physical world in the broadest sense, the universe" (c. 1200). In Old English gospels, the commonest word for "the physical world," was Middangeard (Old Norse Midgard), literally "the middle enclosure" "flat; to spread."



                            There can only be one plane-t. Then you have whats above and whats below.

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                            • xparte
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                              #15

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