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  • allodial
    Senior Member
    • May 2011
    • 2866

    #1

    Mandatory Exception

    Unincorporated Associations Are Not Unregistered New Testament Churches
    By Dr. Greg J. Dixon
    This is from a website chock full of information about non-501(c)3 congregations and more.
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    Last edited by allodial; 11-29-15, 06:04 PM.
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    "The object in life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane." -- Marcus Aurelius
    "It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter." Proverbs 25:2
    Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. Thess. 5:21.
  • David Merrill
    Administrator
    • Mar 2011
    • 5953

    #2
    In other words government must keep its paws off the church.
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    • BLBereans
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2014
      • 275

      #3
      Originally posted by David Merrill View Post
      In other words government must keep its paws off the church.
      Incorrect...

      In other words; be mindful how you style your case and what venue you choose to enter.

      Government will not keep its paws off anything that voluntarily enters its jurisdiction. "Mandatory Exception" is inherent immunity if one knows who one is and one acts as a member of a true church.

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      • allodial
        Senior Member
        • May 2011
        • 2866

        #4
        I suspect that David Merrill might be implying that the real and true church would not volunteer in such a way. Anyways, relevantly, in some jurisdictions, the distinction between State sector and the Crown sector are clearly spelled out. In others, one might have to go a bit further to figure that out. But then, the United States is a state too, how can you seriously have posse comitatus without counties or political subdivisions?

        But yes, there might be the issue of waiver of immunity or voluntary entering into a covenant that is enforceable and undesirable.

        ***

        If a fellowship kept its property management activities separate from its worship and pastoral activities, that might remove a lot of jurisdictional snafus.
        Last edited by allodial; 11-29-15, 11:41 PM.
        All rights reserved. Without prejudice. No liability assumed. No value assured.

        "The object in life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane." -- Marcus Aurelius
        "It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter." Proverbs 25:2
        Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. Thess. 5:21.

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        • ag maniac
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2011
          • 263

          #5
          Originally posted by David Merrill View Post
          In other words government must keep its paws off the church.
          From "Born in Equity" blog:

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          • David Merrill
            Administrator
            • Mar 2011
            • 5953

            #6
            Congress used the pronoun "They" so that people could be redeemed.


            They shall be redeemed in lawful money on demand...
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            • pumpkin
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2014
              • 174

              #7
              Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;

              The IRS regulations are irrelevant as to churches. Tax exempt forms are not even required, you can just claim what you donated. A corporation IS a legal entity that requires certain things to exist and cannot be simply presumed to exist.

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              • David Merrill
                Administrator
                • Mar 2011
                • 5953

                #8
                Originally posted by pumpkin View Post
                Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;

                The IRS regulations are irrelevant as to churches. Tax exempt forms are not even required, you can just claim what you donated. A corporation IS a legal entity that requires certain things to exist and cannot be simply presumed to exist.
                Very true...

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                I find it amusing that almost everybody attending these "Centers" calls it "Church".
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                • allodial
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2011
                  • 2866

                  #9
                  Originally posted by pumpkin View Post
                  Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;
                  The President of the United States is an agent of Congress as "chief executive" over the U.S. government agencies and departments and being that the president of the U.S. Senate is his underlying he is part of Congress. That is, a president presides over Congressional sessions. Who has the veto power? Whose underlying is president of the the U.S. Senate? As a commander in chief he is a commissioned officer--a soldier. It would follow therefore that President of the United States is also prohibited from making laws respecting establishment of religion.

                  Originally posted by BLBereans View Post
                  Incorrect...

                  In other words; be mindful how you style your case and what venue you choose to enter.

                  Government will not keep its paws off anything that voluntarily enters its jurisdiction. "Mandatory Exception" is inherent immunity if one knows who one is and one acts as a member of a true church.
                  I meant to add that you do make a very good point in that one would be wise to be mindful how one approaches a given matter or venue.
                  Last edited by allodial; 12-02-15, 01:26 PM.
                  All rights reserved. Without prejudice. No liability assumed. No value assured.

                  "The object in life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane." -- Marcus Aurelius
                  "It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter." Proverbs 25:2
                  Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. Thess. 5:21.

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