Who Hardened Pharoah's Heart?

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  • allodial
    Senior Member
    • May 2011
    • 2866

    #1

    Who Hardened Pharoah's Heart?

    Question: Was some translator out to make the God of Christ to appear to be some unjust demiurge?

    ...and the heart of Pharaoh is strong, and he hath not hearkened unto them, as Jehovah hath spoken. Exodus 7:13 Young's Literal Translation
    Wherefore then do ye harden your hearts, as the Egyptians and Pharaoh hardened their hearts? when he had wrought wonderfully among them, did they not let the people go, and they departed? 1 Samuel 6:6 KJV
    Now on to the King James Version:

    And the LORD spake unto Moses and unto Aaron, saying, 9When Pharaoh shall speak unto you, saying, Shew a miracle for you: then thou shalt say unto Aaron, Take thy rod, and cast it before Pharaoh, and it shall become a serpent. 10And Moses and Aaron went in unto Pharaoh, and they did so as the LORD had commanded: and Aaron cast down his rod before Pharaoh, and before his servants, and it became a serpent. 11Then Pharaoh also called the wise men and the sorcerers: now the magicians of Egypt, they also did in like manner with their enchantments. 12For they cast down every man his rod, and they became serpents: but Aaron's rod swallowed up their rods. And he hardened Pharaoh's heart, that he hearkened not unto them; as the LORD had said. Exodus 7:8-13
    Notice that Moses and Aaron is the most recent actor mentioned before verse thirteen. Why would we presume 'he' to be anyone but Pharoah himself or even possibly Aaron or that the consequence of Aaron's rod swallowing up their rods being what 'hardened' Pharoah's heart?

    Is is that the God of Christ simply allowed Pharaoh to make his own choice? The words 'chazaq' (translated harden but tending toward meaning 'strong' and 'leb' (translated heart but tending towards meaning 'mind') points to the attempt to impress Pharaoh to make the right decision simply resulting in Pharaoh being more strongly resolved. It is very likely that heretical and harmful doctrines led men to simply stick to their resolve of their belief of they themselves being God or being the All in All and thusly reflexively refusing all outer evidence to the contrary. In the New Testament the similar state seems to alluded to having a 'reprobate mind'. Again, it seems rather plausible that corruption of doctrines may have crept into the ancient dynasty around that time.

    Imagine someone saying "I insist that we give notice and grace, but be aware no matter what you do, he will just resolve to tell you to go jump in a lake. But we'll give him the opportunity to make the right choice although I already know how he's going to act." or "I will work with you to encourage him to make the right choice. But I know that he will only be more resolved to disobey." Being aware of the mindset that results from faulty doctrine, it was predictable what Pharaoh would do. Nebuchadnezzar who made similar errors is said to have been drawing on doctrines of the Chaldean Mystery Schools. (See: Ultra vires.)

    One element that seems to be overlooked is that the dynasty of the Pharaohs was founded on doctrines that come Moses' time could have been rejected in favor of more 'neoliberal' doctrines.

    . There is nothing in this contrary to the general teaching of the Scriptures, or to the Divine Perfection. --Ellicott's Commentary for English Readers
    On another thread, someone made a comment about the significance of THREE refusals.

    Refusal #1:

    "...and the heart of Pharaoh is strong, and he hath not hearkened unto them, as Jehovah hath spoken." Exodus 7:13 YLT
    Refusal #2:

    Refusal #3:
    "And the LORD did according to the word of Moses; He removed the swarms of flies from Pharaoh, from his servants, and from his people. Not one remained. But Pharaoh hardened his heart at this time also; neither would he let the people go." Ex 8:31-9:1 {Perhaps this 'seals the deal'?}
    Then:

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    Last edited by allodial; 02-14-16, 12:57 PM.
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  • allodial
    Senior Member
    • May 2011
    • 2866

    #2
    Add: the Babylon-centric model conceals the Ancient Egyptian Dynastic associations of Israel by putting up a false model. By keeping in mind the truth about ancient Israel's association with ancient Egyptian dynasties Genesis is made more lucid as why Pharaoh was EXPECTED and could be REQUIRED to behave a certain way. Otherwise, the impression is that some foreigner has the audacity to walk into some foreign country and tell a man what to do or be damned. That is not at all what ocurred!

    Imagine a King that stops wanting to adhere to ancient principles because some smooth-talking Guru-Swami starts talking to him about fancy New Agey talk and so thinking himself to be God and the All of the All he starts doing things he shouldn't. He even mistakes the kingdom and world as his own without peer. So along comes someone who is aware of the original doctrine and the truth obligations of the King. That King decides to shrug it off THRICE and so pays the penalty for it. (Imagine Pharaoh saying "The Egyptian Constitution is just a piece of paper. I can do what I want!"--ancient neoliberalism ) Remember, Moses was an Israelite, a descendent of Levi not of Judah (i.e. a Levite not a Judahite). Moses was also Egyptian royalty.

    The idea of Moses being some foreigner who waltzed into Egypt and combated with the Egyptian royals and won because of some genetic bloodline that gave him the right to thwack Egypt over the head--that is not the Bible story.

    The descendents of Israel fka Jacob went under a tutelage period, Pharaoh breeched (i.e. contempt of court).

    Related:
    Tharbis: Mose's Ethiopian Wife
    Did Moses Marry a Cushite? Early Traditions Suggest He Did
    Last edited by allodial; 02-16-16, 09:20 AM.
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    "The object in life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane." -- Marcus Aurelius
    "It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter." Proverbs 25:2
    Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. Thess. 5:21.

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    • David Merrill
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      • Mar 2011
      • 5953

      #3
      I found it rewarding to write the Laws of Moses in paleo-Hebrew, then translate it back to English.

      Laws of Moses.
      Pentateuch Translation and Commentary.

      Overlaying on your post Allodial it seems you might be saying that the Word and Will of God is the only permanent fixture.
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