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  • shikamaru
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    • Mar 2011
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    #46
    Originally posted by pumpkin View Post
    An account, at law, is a chose in action or right to sue for recovery of a debt or obligation.

    Yes, and it is very restricted. Actually, you must be or have the qualities of a guardian, bailiff, or receiver. But they will come against you, with some papers showing an amount and some account numbers creating the presumption. I got a property tax bill with numbers all over it. I have no idea what they mean, but I am not a guardian, bailiff or receiver nor do I have any qualities of such. The IRS does the same thing, a bunch of numbers and some resembling amounts due and some indicating an account.
    This just recently hit me.

    More important than the account is the record. More focus (and study) should be on the record.

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    • allodial
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      • May 2011
      • 2866

      #47
      Originally posted by shikamaru View Post
      This just recently hit me.

      More important than the account is the record. More focus (and study) should be on the record.
      An account is an abstract term for a bundle of records. It may be that an account only ever consists of journals, transcripts, ledgers and associated papers (tied together under the same "record number" or "account number").
      All rights reserved. Without prejudice. No liability assumed. No value assured.

      "The object in life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane." -- Marcus Aurelius
      "It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter." Proverbs 25:2
      Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. Thess. 5:21.

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      • shikamaru
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        • Mar 2011
        • 1630

        #48
        Originally posted by allodial View Post
        An account is an abstract term for a bundle of records. It may be that an account only ever consists of journals, transcripts, ledgers and associated papers (tied together under the same "record number" or "account number").
        Interesting....

        ... this reminded me of the term 'title' with its associated definition as a bundle of rights.

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        • pumpkin
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2014
          • 174

          #49
          The account is presumed. If it is examined by the court, it does not hold up as an account. You must have the qualities of a guardian, bailiff, or receiver, or you cannot be held to account. But an account can have 'amounts due' and account numbers. Here is a book discussing the subject:

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          • allodial
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            • May 2011
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            #50
            Originally posted by pumpkin View Post
            The account is presumed. If it is examined by the court, it does not hold up as an account. You must have the qualities of a guardian, bailiff, or receiver, or you cannot be held to account. But an account can have 'amounts due' and account numbers. Here is a book discussing the subject:
            https://books.google.com/books?id=vK...ccount&f=false
            You're talking in the framework of a typical court case. Account and record are pretty much synonymous. A monetary account such as those relating to banking or finance are simply records. The Court of the Exchequer (a court of equity?) is a financial/monetary court you could say. Perhaps also see merger of law and equity.
            All rights reserved. Without prejudice. No liability assumed. No value assured.

            "The object in life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane." -- Marcus Aurelius
            "It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter." Proverbs 25:2
            Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. Thess. 5:21.

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            • xparte
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              • Sep 2014
              • 742

              #51
              And it came to pass in those days, that there went out a decree from Caesar Augustus, that all the world should be taxed.In those days a decree went out from Caesar Augustus that all the world should be registered. its a old story of greed control Christ was the greatest shit disturber and the world owes him nothing and you owe the world less following the truth backwards is moving forward no worship no war no problem for me or you but it is not what a greedy world ever wanted i hate religion not any one who has faith in a written word is wrong just make sure its author or its authority is not JUST HIS STORY z=Q? following Christ is taking up the cross one nail at a time

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              • Michael Joseph
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                • Mar 2011
                • 1596

                #52
                Originally posted by Michael Joseph View Post
                If all men are created equal, then one man has no right in another man to represent another man, unless said Right is Granted. However, if Artificial Persons are seen as Things, then representation of a Thing does not create a problem - as Rights in Things, regarding an estate - are in fact easily represented. As the cestui que trust is going to want his/her/its interests preserved.
                Consider also that when it is said all "men" are created equal the phase does not refer to man-kind as a whole but rather, in my opinion speaks to the allegorical meaning. For clearly if the Settlors agreed that all men were created equal, then they would not be happy to hold some men as slaves as many of them did.

                Rather by "men" is meant those who issue forth a claim upon the Earth in God under Providence to steward the Earth as Trustee and as vassal kings sitting in the Mercy Seat of Christ. Therefore, it is true that in this sense all "men" are created equal. And those so called "men" leave their mother [church] and father [state of nativity] and take a wife [citizenry]. And the husbands [men] or leadership love their wives [citizenship] and the wives [citizens] submit themselves to their husband [leadership]. Therefore the two cleave to each other and the two become one.

                These two form State. And at international law according to the Law of Nations, these two form a Moral Person. Therefore, Husbands love your wives!

                For years I have struggled with the concept that why did not all of Israel come up the Mountain to Sup? In the stead of all coming up the Mountain, they elected a Moses [Rational Intellect] to go for them. We can externalize the story but it gets more real when we internalize the story and see that most of us have lived all of our lives on the Mountain of Ai [Wasteheap - Left Brain] where we live in a constant state of duality - in Pisces the dual fish [good and evil]. We are as Peter that great fisherman that fished all the Age Long [Night] and did not catch one single GREAT FISH in his own five sense limited mind.

                But then he as Moses crossed over the Red Sea [Corpus Collosum] to lead his people [thoughts and desires] into the Promised Land. But we see that Rational and Intellect cannot ascend to the Promised Land [Moses died] but that Joshua [Yehoshuah] led the people into the Land. That is to say once they crossed over see March 21, June 21, Sept 21 and Dec 21 they came into Bethel [House of God - Right Side of the House]. There they found intuition and experience.

                Looking back at Noah we see one captain [you] in one boat [consciousness]. Remember the 12 rowers [diciples in the boat]? When Christ came to the 12 walking on water Peter stepped out and could ascend with his eyes on Christ. But when he began to rely upon Ai [his own intellect] he sunk into the mire.

                Now let me tie this all together. As we begin to cross over the Red Sea from Ai to Bethel we leave the natural estate [red and ruddy] as brute beasts [lower conscious beings] and we take on the manhood of Spiritual Beings receiving the title Man. Jesus was called Son of Man for indeed in that respect the Spiritual Man is son of the Celestial Man [the All the one absent a name, the Ain Soph].

                And thusly it is said that the Man [Eth Ha Awdawm] is granted Husbandry in the House of God. And it is said "it is not good that man should be alone". Thusly from within Man's Dominion is formed and fashioned Woman. And these two are One in Sacred Trust in God our Founding Father and our Lord Jesus Christ [His and Our King - Magnus Regent]. As there is one emanation from God of which and for which all is subject to - so too the mirror reflects the same image in the Earth.

                And therefore so to is the same fractal realized within the fractal of mankind. And this fractal is not subject to form of matter in regard to male or female. Nevertheless we can know the eternal by looking at the created. For the created symbolizes the eternal. And finding a woman in the earth there must be aspect of my consciousness that is both male and female. Male [intellect = Left = Ai]; Female [Intuition = Right = Bethel]. Nevertheless in order to bring forth a child there is need of seed which is of a male.

                As such, this is the root cause of why Jacob's thigh was put out of joint and he was made to limp. This is merely allegorical to the extent that Jacob no longer relied upon his own intellect and experiences based on his five sense limited mind and he was made halt to remind him of those limitations. Rather Jacob was granted a new name in God = Israel = Prince. As in a Prince[ly] mind. So that now, from an enlightened state of being our feminine nature is as a chaste virgin being presented to Christ as the Chrism Oil descends from above and our Lamps are made full.

                Thusly we can see that all Men are in deed created equal for their is only ONE WAY - and that way is straight and narrow and is without the broad traditions and falsity of the orthodox houses which are anti-christ. For these teach that we cannot be transformed into the image and likeness of Christ. And furthermore that we may not sit down as vassal kings/queens in the mercy seat with our Great Lord and Savior and Redeemer who is The Way of Being - Jesus Christ.

                For once one knows the truth and does the truth, then the truth sets one free. If one desires to be king, then one must claim in God - For the Property is in God and we are mere Husbandmen who Steward the kingdom. Farmers or Trustees as it were - tilling the ground to bring forth the good fruit pleasing unto God and man.

                What is shocking to me is that many will read the foregoing agree with its premise and then argue how can they use law of another Man's House in order to gain a benefit in another Man's House. And I saw a beast rising out of the sea...indeed....and much cattle.

                Jonah 4:11 And should not I spare Nineveh, that great city, wherein are more than sixscore thousand persons that cannot discern between their right hand and their left hand; and also much cattle?

                Notice Jonah is a Man who was content to sit under his Gourd in God and watch the world die. Nevertheless all that Jonah is was granted of him by God for God makes the Man. And thusly are all Men created equally.

                Gal 4:1 Now I say, That the heir, as long as he is a child, differeth nothing from a servant, though he be lord of all;
                Gal 4:2 But is under tutors and governors until the time appointed of the father.
                Gal 4:3 Even so we, when we were children, were in bondage under the elements of the world:

                For the Kingdom exists and the Princes as heirs of the Kingdom undertaking in the Grant for the mutual benefit of all. For we see in Unam Sactum a Claim in God as follows:

                God as Grantor
                Pontiff as Grantee

                but later we see in the triple crown [three testamentary trusts]

                Pontiff as Grantor
                Princes over kingdoms as Grantees

                Therefore the kingdoms are subject to a higher power [Grantor] and the Grant may be revoked as long as there exists the office and a Man to occupy within. Thusly is the Church [Mother] Apostolic. And since no claim has come forth to challenge Unam Sanctum the Curia and the Cardinals continue on as Trustees and Administrators of the Triple Crown.


                So what is on trial currently? The Husbandmen who would run the kingdom into the ground for greed, lust and prestige. The three snakes in the hand of Hercules. Love is on trial -and patient are the saints. Have you ever noticed that a confessional booth is EXACTLY like a courthouse? If you think the confessional booth is not a Juridical construct - think again.

                Many make claim to common law thinking themselves to be somewhat - but says Paul - they add very little. For he who makes a use of law to gain a benefit is suppliant or subject to the jurisdiction of the Kingdom - Man [King].

                The Heavens are God's Throne [Higher Mind] and the Earth [Lower Mind] His footstool. Both realms are subject to God and thus the Divine Law. We however, may consent to waive our rights in God and consent to another testament.

                And every kingdom must be liable for its deeds and the treasury its surety. Now read this and Understand the Great and Wonderful Way of God - which is the Power of God called Jesus Christ:

                Heb 7:22 By so much was Jesus made a surety of a better testament.

                THEREFORE comes first the Claim. If Providence allows, then Grantor is God and Grantee is the Claimant.

                The Claim is subject to a Survey - else there might exist a trespass.

                The Grantee is Chief Trustee [King] which may grant out Property Rights and Estates from said Claim to others who may freely choose to undertake on behalf of the Kingdom.

                Any such future grant is QUALIFIED subject to the original Grant and can be no greater. For any subset of a set can be no greater than the set.

                Would to God that all would come up the Mountain - but Jesus said to the Men - "the poor you have with you always."

                By the Graces and Mercies of God the people are beginning to awaken as the Man with the "Water Pitcher" is pouring out His Spirit upon all Flesh [Lower Mind].

                Let us fan the Divine Spark within. Have you ever wondered why the powers that be desire, rather require, that the State be a 3rd party to our marriages? Now you see why. You TWO have the unlimited potential to FORM STATE. For it only takes TWO. The two become one.
                Last edited by Michael Joseph; 07-30-16, 09:26 PM.
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                • xparte
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                  • Sep 2014
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                  #53

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                  • David Merrill
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                    • Mar 2011
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                    #54
                    I want to filter that through Legal Identity; The Coming of Age of Public Law by Joseph VINING.

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                    Toward the end of my abridged rendition you might get that those balanced into the CHRIST Mind are a class action.
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                    • Michael Joseph
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                      • Mar 2011
                      • 1596

                      #55
                      Originally posted by David Merrill View Post
                      Toward the end of my abridged rendition you might get that those balanced into the CHRIST Mind are a class action.
                      Right - these have come to the positive nature of Saturn and have entered into the Sanctuary whereof there is balance. They eat the bread by the Light. No longer are they confined and defined by symbols.

                      Yes brother - Php 2:5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:

                      A great key which turns the door is comprehending the difference between: "Jesus Christ"; "Christ Jesus", "Jesus", "the Lord Jesus Christ" and "Christ"

                      the writers were not lazy. Leadership must be balanced and not self seeking [serving]. Let he who would be the greatest be the servant to all.

                      Shalom,
                      MJ
                      Last edited by Michael Joseph; 08-04-16, 11:16 PM.
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                      • xparte
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                        • Sep 2014
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                        #56

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                        • David Merrill
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                          #57


                          Therefore the sultan ingests the imprint of the 153 genomes and combines that with the requirement to study the Law:

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                          It is the willingness to lose his identity in the commonwealth of his brethren, that equips him to lead.

                          In the political life of rights, on the other hand, we have to do with something which makes us all equal before the law

                          This is the essence behind Nehemiah 10 - the first written Constitution.



                          P.S. That is an amazing post xparte! Those words are worth considering carefully.
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                          • David Merrill
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                            #58



                            the people from whom Christ Jesus was born looked on themselves as the chosen people, and they believed that happiness would come to the world only if all other peoples were to die away, and their own stock to spread over the entire face of the earth. In a certain sense that was a well-founded belief, for Jehovah, the God of this people, had chosen it as his people, and Jehovah was regarded as the one and only God.this was a justified perception for the old Hebrew people, since out of this old Hebrew people Christ Jesus was to emerge.

                            What the commercial priestcraft depends upon is the teaching that the RUACH is what God breathed into Adam - the Breath of Life. RUACH is emotional. Important, yes, but the NESHEMAH is what God breathed into Adam - His Mind - NESHMAT CHAIM.

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                            • xparte
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                              #59

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                              • David Merrill
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                                #60
                                The Christians assume that Jesus came to deliver Israel from the Romans; while Paul clearly delivered Christians to Rome. It would be much more appropriate according to the first constitution - Nehemiah 10 - that Jesus intended to deliver the Temple Mount from the Jews (Babylon).

                                Where I was born, there is a labyrinth - I will go think this over. I was born on the NW Corner of the Golden Rectangle.





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