Persuasion & PSYOPS: The Elaboration Likelihood Model

[allodial]

Are you paying attention? What I am bringing to attention here are fundamental theories and techniques behind psychological operations, psychopolitics (same thing?), marketing, persuasion and the like--even to attitude change on a political or societal level. We've heard of "mind control" and so on but how many of us have actually looked into the academic theories and details behind it all? Isn't it interesting how much thought has gone into not only how you think but how to change your mind --and if not yours the minds of others to accept something or another?

The Elaboration Likelihood Model (source: Wikipedia)
The elaboration likelihood model (ELM) of persuasion[1] is a dual process theory of how attitudes are formed and changed, which was developed by Richard E. Petty and John Cacioppo during the early 1980s. The model examines how an argument's position on the "elaboration continuum", from processing and evaluating (high elaboration) to peripheral issues such as source expertise or attractiveness (low elaboration), shapes its persuasiveness. ELM resembles the heuristic-systematic model of information processing developed about the same time by Shelly Chaiken.

Related: (*) Modern Persuasion Theory]The Elaboration Likelihood Model (ELM) (Source: Selling Homosexuality to America, By Paul E. Rondeau (ENTIRE BOOK AVAILABLE ONLINE HERE) and here (PDF));

(*) The Elaboration Likelihood Model of Persuasion (PDF), Richard E. Pettty, John T. Cacioppo;

(*) Seven Models of Framing: Implications for Public Relations;

(*) Social Judgment Theory.

How might the above have been used to sell scrip over gold/silver specie over lawful money? How might the above have been used to push the Federal Reserve Act?

[doug555]

Are you paying attention? What I am bringing to attention here are fundamental theories and techniques behind psychological operations, psychopolitics (same thing?), marketing, persuasion and the like--even to attitude change on a political or societal level. We've heard of "mind control" and so on but how many of us have actually looked into the academic theories and details behind it all? Isn't it interesting how much thought has gone into not only how you think but how to change your mind --and if not yours the minds of others to accept something or another?



Related: (*) Modern Persuasion Theory]The Elaboration Likelihood Model (ELM) (Source: Selling Homosexuality to America, By Paul E. Rondeau (ENTIRE BOOK AVAILABLE ONLINE HERE) and here (PDF));

(*) The Elaboration Likelihood Model of Persuasion (PDF), Richard E. Pettty, John T. Cacioppo;

(*) Seven Models of Framing: Implications for Public Relations;

(*) Social Judgment Theory.

How might the above have been used to sell scrip over gold/silver specie over lawful money? How might the above have been used to push the Federal Reserve Act?

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Hmmmm... try applying "Central Route Processing" to HJR 192 of June 5, 1933... and see if you see what I see... the 2 options...

and how the 2nd option is cleverly hidden...

Looks like it worked out quite well for the Fed, huh?

Everyone starting using private credit scrip... and did not realize the 2nd option existed.

But it does exist, IMO... and we should begin demanding FULL DISCHARGE accordingly today, provided, however, one has first established a substantive record of demanding lawful money for all transactions.

Lawful Money Demands make Full Discharge Payments possible!

But besides the wordcrafting of the content of HJR 192, what about the possibility of it being divinely orchestrated to provide a "way of escape" for the people? Consider the dates, the timing of events, the numbers involved, and what those numbers signify as they are commonly seen from a biblical perspective. This will take very focused "Central Route Processing"!

[allodial]

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Hmmmm... try applying "Central Root Processing" to HJR 192 of June 5, 1933... and see if you see what I see... the 2 options...

and how the 2nd option is cleverly hidden...

Looks like it worked out quite well for the Fed, huh?

Everyone starting using private credit scrip... and did not realize the 2nd option existed.

But it does exist, IMO... and we should being demanding FULL DISCHARGE accordingly today, provided, however, one has first established a substantive record of demanding lawful money for all transactions.

Lawful Money Demands make Full Discharge Payments possible!

It has been suggested that they go after the easy prey. In the wild, it is said that even lions and leopards target the prey that are sick and old, are very young or are injured--the danger of getting a hoof in the head from a strong, mature prey is avoided. So it is interesting as you put it, there was an option available for those using "central processing" and perhaps also one for those who might be regarded to have taken the lazy approach.

The hand of the diligent [Central Route Processing? -> Redeem / Use Lawful Money ] shall bear rule: but the slothful [Peripheral Route Processing? -> Endorse / Use Private Credit or Scrip ] shall be under tribute. (KJV - Proverbs 12:24)

So whether it has to do with scrip or some other matter, perhaps there are techniques "they" utilized for getting at those who have an affinity for Peripheral Route Processing or who are not diligent in investigating or the like? Here's a video that touches upon the Elaboration Likelihood Model but also gets into how emotion factors in (the drawings seem to be a bit off ...but what she says makes sense).

[allodial]

This is another video on the same topic that reiterates the first a bit more succinctly.

[Anthony Joseph]

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Hmmmm... try applying "Central Route Processing" to HJR 192 of June 5, 1933... and see if you see what I see... the 2 options...

and how the 2nd option is cleverly hidden...

Looks like it worked out quite well for the Fed, huh?

Everyone starting using private credit scrip... and did not realize the 2nd option existed.

But it does exist, IMO... and we should being demanding FULL DISCHARGE accordingly today, provided, however, one has first established a substantive record of demanding lawful money for all transactions.

Lawful Money Demands make Full Discharge Payments possible!

But besides the wordcrafting of the content of HJR 192, what about the possibility of it being divinely orchestrated to provide a "way of escape" for the people? Consider the dates, the timing of events, the numbers involved, and what those numbers signify as they are commonly seen from a biblical perspective. This will take very focused "Central Route Processing"!

The work of those of us who choose to utilize "Central Route Processing" regarding the demand of lawful money, and full discharge, is perhaps being unfulfilled due to lack of accuracy/correctness relating to the proper manner and method of notifying the appropriate public trustee of our performance requirement of said demand(s).

By your synopsis, any credit instrument (bill) should be fully discharged when forwarded to an appropriate public trustee in the proper manner and method. There are those of us who are proactive, making good faith efforts to notify the proper party of our choosing the "2nd option", and yet are met with silence.

Does anyone claim to have repeated success with the FULL DISCHARGE "2nd option" for bills and for any type of "purchase"? This would mean no need for "money", either coming in or going out, since the "paper" and "digits" are solely bookkeeping and administrative in nature specifically for those who are obligated to perform said FULL DISCHARGE - the public trustees.

[Anthony Joseph]

Perhaps the correct verbiage should be:

i; a man, require lawful money and full discharge for all transactions [See 12 USC 411, 95a(2) as your law in this regard]

[allodial]

If you consider the typical mortgage or loan transaction. The buyer and his wife with SSN's sit down and make out a promissory note payable in "lawful money of the United States of America" and which is repayable* in such and such terms. A bank or credit union is either state chartered or federally chartered as to the banking powers. They most always have a state charter of some kind as relates to their corporate existence. In any case the financial institution has:

1] A federal taxpayer identification number (Commissioner of Internal Revenue; Secretary of the U.S. Department of the Treasury)
2] a state corporate charter or certificate of authority number or the like (State Secretary of State)
3] an account with some Federal Reserve Bank (that applies to credit unions and state banks even though they may not be FRB members)
4] state tax ID (State Revenue Director)
5] state or federal banking license or the like (State Banking Commissioner; U.S. Comptroller of the Currency)

The buyers:

1] checking account account with a bank
2] accounts with credit card company
3] social security numbers
4] residential addresses (post office, state circuit courts, U.S. district court associated)
5] tax payer ID numbers (file taxes and thusly have accounts with IRS) --not the same as the account with the SSA
6] drivers licenses (account with the state)
7] birth certificate.

If an SSN is involved: it might be worth knowing that the Social Security Administration itself has an ABA routing number and is set up like a financial institution.

Even with check cashing, one can do an analysis like this you can write down the chief state or federal officers involved in the oversight or issuance of those licenses, accounts, tax IDs or the like and that should give quite a solid fix as to what State officers might be pertinent. This might require a study of the structure or organization of the pertinent State. Also consider that Attorney Generals and Sheriffs tend to have a duty to see that other officers perform their duties. The National Guard also a similar function in case of staunch dereliction of duty or the like (i.e.rebellion or insurrection).

My point here is it might be truly helpful if one sits back and analyzes the nature of the parties to say a mortgage or "loan" or check cashing transaction it should reveal a lot.

For your convenience:

[1] List of U.S. Attorney's General
[2] List of Secretaries of State.(PDF also attached)
[3] State Treasurers, Comptrollers & Auditors

[Anthony Joseph]

If you consider the typical mortgage or loan transaction. The buyer and his wife with SSN's sit down and make out a promissory note payable in "lawful money of the United States of America" and which is repayable* in such and such terms. A bank or credit union is either state chartered or federally chartered as to the banking powers. They most always have a state charter of some kind as relates to their corporate existence. In any case the financial institution has:

1] A federal taxpayer identification number (Commissioner of Internal Revenue; Secretary of the U.S. Department of the Treasury)
2] a state corporate charter or certificate of authority number or the like (State Secretary of State)
3] an account with some Federal Reserve Bank (that applies to credit unions and state banks even though they may not be FRB members)
4] state tax ID (State Revenue Director)
5] state or federal banking license or the like (State Banking Commissioner; U.S. Comptroller of the Currency)

The buyers:

1] checking account account with a bank
2] accounts with credit card company
3] social security numbers
4] residential addresses (post office, state circuit courts, U.S. district court associated)
5] tax payer ID numbers (file taxes and thusly have accounts with IRS) --not the same as the account with the SSA
6] drivers licenses (account with the state)
7] birth certificate.

If an SSN is involved: it might be worth knowing that the Social Security Administration itself has an ABA routing number and is set up like a financial institution.

Even with check cashing, one can do an analysis like this you can write down the chief state or federal officers involved in the oversight or issuance of those licenses, accounts, tax IDs or the like and that should give quite a solid fix as to what State officers might be pertinent. This might require a study of the structure or organization of the pertinent State. Also consider that Attorney Generals and Sheriffs tend to have a duty to see that other officers perform their duties. The National Guard also a similar function in case of staunch dereliction of duty or the like (i.e.rebellion or insurrection).

My point here is it might be truly helpful if one sits back and analyzes the nature of the parties to say a mortgage or "loan" or check cashing transaction it should reveal a lot.

For your convenience:

[1] List of U.S. Attorney's General
[2] List of Secretaries of State.(PDF also attached)
[3] State Treasurers, Comptrollers & Auditors

In your opinion, who is the appropriate man or woman, acting in public trust capacity and office, who must perform payment by discharge when i; a man, require it?

by specific example: a charge instrument (bill) from 'VERIZON FLORIDA LLC'

who must perform the discharge when properly noticed?

Jacob J. Lew - Secretary of the Treasury
Rosa G. Rios - Treasurer of the United States
Jeff Atwater - State of Florida Chief Financial Officer
Thomas J. Curry - U.S. Comptroller of the Currency
Ken Detzner - Florida Secretary of State
John F. Kerry - U.S. Secretary of State
Rick Scott - Governor of Florida

[allodial]

(NOTICE: More Central Route Processing required!)

Regarding the Bill Itself
There is the perspective that the bill from VERIZON is a draft and the drawee is the addressee (drafts are associated with charges. Per commercial law, drafts are either: [1] accepted/honored; [2] dishonored; [3] refused for cause without dishonor. The underlying commercial law is important in order to see remedy because it elucidates the nature and cause of the liability. Also, in connection with the agreement in opening the account was likely some promise or agreement to pay the bills. Thusly, to honor them.

If your person is TONY P SMITH SSN 123-45-6789 or TONY P SMITH 20 MAYBERRY LN TALLAHASSEE FL 12345 -> likely they are sending the bills to that person the owner on the account.

Indemnity & Liability
So let's consider car insurance: if TONY P SMITH 123-45-6789 / FL license # 123456789012345678 or TONY P SMITH 20 MAYBERRY LN TALLAHASSHEE FL 12345 gets into a car accident and incurs liability, he could divert the liability to the person that has provided that person coverage vis-a-vis selling that person a indemnity contract called "insurance policy. Consider, if that is covered by 3 insurance policies, who the matter is directed to would be a matter of choice in any given situation.

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So, a question might be, have you or anyone else provided the person liable on the VERIZON bill with any kind of coverage? Has the State or Fed provided any guarantees or insurance policies to cover liabilities for that specific drawee that you are aware of? Did you file any bonds or purchase any policies for covering that person--if so then with who or with what agency/officer/organization/company?

At a fundamental level, I would tend to consider the significance of:

* the biller;
* State Revenue Officers (Executive Director of the Florida Department of Revenue);
* Federal Revenue Officers (Commissioner of Internal Revenue);
* Secretary of the U.S. Dept. of the Treasury (heads IRS, FMS, etc.).

If there is an SSN involved then likely there are links to both State Revenue, Federal Revenue and possible also to the Social Security Administration.

Big hint: what does the person billed and Verizon have in common? Do they hold any accounts at the same organization, financial institution or the like?

Central Route Process is important here. Although, it can be quite detail oriented. I'd say that once you figure it out: its pretty easy from there--its like habitually discernable.

I would not tend to include the following in a "the list" unless you have learned and good reason:

Thomas J. Curry - U.S. Comptroller of the Currency
Rosa G. Rios - Treasurer of the United States.

I would consider the following in special and appropriate situations:

Jeff Atwater - State of Florida Chief Financial Officer
Ken Detzner - Florida Secretary of State
John F. Kerry - U.S. Secretary of State
Rick Scott - Governor of Florida.

The Florida AG might also be worthy of considering where appropriate.

[doug555]

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Hmmmm... try applying "Central Route Processing" to HJR 192 of June 5, 1933... and see if you see what I see... the 2 options...

and how the 2nd option is cleverly hidden...

Looks like it worked out quite well for the Fed, huh?

Everyone starting using private credit scrip... and did not realize the 2nd option existed.

But it does exist, IMO... and we should begin demanding FULL DISCHARGE accordingly today, provided, however, one has first established a substantive record of demanding lawful money for all transactions.

Lawful Money Demands make Full Discharge Payments possible!

But besides the wordcrafting of the content of HJR 192, what about the possibility of it being divinely orchestrated to provide a "way of escape" for the people? Consider the dates, the timing of events, the numbers involved, and what those numbers signify as they are commonly seen from a biblical perspective. This will take very focused "Central Route Processing"!

RE: Thread: Persuasion & PSYOPS: The Elaboration Likelihood Model

Perhaps http://iuvdeposit.wordpress.com/hjr-192/ and HJR 192 - Indorsement is Payment will help bring this issue into clearer focus...

Then compare this to the IRS position on payments at http://www.irs.gov/Payments and see if they are violating the terms of HJR 192 by only allowing only one "kind" of coin or currency, namely liability currency.

See my "Conditional Acceptance" of said position.

Does this help increase the ELABORATION LIKELIHOOD for this issue?

Shouldn't this be the KEY ISSUE for CENTRAL ROUTE PROCESSING at this point in America today with its debt ceiling and deficit crises?

Shouldn't this be the KEY ISSUE to bring before a COMMON LAW GRAND JURY (http://iuvdeposit.wordpress.com/grand-jury) in each county?

Doesn't compelled use of liability instruments in direct violation of HJR 192 constitute the imposition of involuntary servitude/slavery by perpetual indebtedness?

Does't this provide probable cause to bring forth claims of harm and injury to every man and woman so compelled?

Once one returns an indorsed bill along with a Notice and Demand and this payment is dishonored without cause?

THINK/ELABORATE on this...

PM me if you want to discuss this privately. We need to form a private FOCUS GROUP on this issue ASAP.

[Anthony Joseph]

Exhibit_D_Mem_of_Law_Bills_of_Exch.pdf

An interesting take on the "unexplained silence" by government officials receiving instruments tendered for discharge.

[allodial]

Again they might not on the whole know as much as you might suspect. You both are now hot on the trail.

RE: Thread: Persuasion & PSYOPS: The Elaboration Likelihood Model

Perhaps http://iuvdeposit.wordpress.com/hjr-192/ and HJR 192 - Indorsement is Payment will help bring this issue into clearer focus...

Then compare this to the IRS position on payments at http://www.irs.gov/Payments and see if they are violating the terms of HJR 192 by only allowing only one "kind" of coin or currency, namely liability currency.

See my "Conditional Acceptance" of said position.

Does this help increase the ELABORATION LIKELIHOOD for this issue?

Shouldn't this be the KEY ISSUE for CENTRAL ROUTE PROCESSING at this point in America today with its debt ceiling and deficit crises?

Shouldn't this be the KEY ISSUE to bring before a COMMON LAW GRAND JURY (http://iuvdeposit.wordpress.com/grand-jury) in each county?

Doesn't compelled use of liability instruments in direct violation of HJR 192 constitute the imposition of involuntary servitude/slavery by perpetual indebtedness?

Does't this provide probable cause to bring forth claims of harm and injury to every man and woman so compelled?

Once one returns an indorsed bill along with a Notice and Demand and this payment is dishonored without cause?

THINK/ELABORATE on this...

PM me if you want to discuss this privately. We need to form a private FOCUS GROUP on this issue ASAP.

I am surprised how many folks are so frustrated about the issue of bills of exchange, money and notes but hardly take the time to read a legal treatise on them. Not referring to anyone that posts to this forum. By comprehending bills/bills/billets of exchange, notes, instruments, bonds, contract law it all makes so much more sense.

Re: Payment = Indorsement
Not quite. Even a US Postal Money Order isn't technically payment until you deliver it to the payee. Before and without delivery to the payee it would be considered to be incohate. It might be helpful to know that bills of exchange and promissory notes are types of contracts. Specifically they are contracts for delivery of money only. Unlike typical surety bonds which have a condition, they are unconditional as to the obligation of the party liable on the bill or note or instrument to pay money. There is a difference between a promise to pay and an order to pay. HINT: the person writing a check drawn on a typical bank is making an order (i.e. commanding) the bank to perform (i.e. delivery of money). A check is a very small "business letter".

On June 28, 2013, debt held by the public was approximately $11.901 trillion or about 71.43% of GDP.[6][5] Intragovernmental holdings stood at $4.837 trillion, giving a combined total public debt of $16.738 trillion.[6]
The national debt can also be classified into marketable or non-marketable securities. As of March 2012, total marketable securities were $10.34 trillion while the non-marketable securities were $5.24 trillion.[8] Most of the marketable securities are Treasury notes, bills, and bonds held by investors and governments globally. The non-marketable securities are mainly the "government account series" owed to certain government trust funds such as the Social Security Trust Fund, which represented $2.7 trillion in 2011

Re: Public Debt.
Perhaps that is how much money they owe me? Or how much the public side owes the private side. It might be that the primary source of debt in for GoTUS pertains to the issuance of Treasury Bills/Notes. (P.S. Avoiding matching GDP is probably a good idea!) (P.S. It might be that the U.S. Government borrows trillions from the Social Security Administration every year.)

Re: IRS and Lawful Money.
The IRS takes payment in lawful money. You might find a better perspective in reading the Internal Revenue Manual (In particular: Part 21 - Customer Account Services, Chapter 1 - Accounts Management and Compliance Operations, Section 7 - Campus Support (Cont. 1) (i.e. 21.1) [in particular-> sections 21.1.7.4, 21.1.7.9, 21.1.7.9.17, 21.1.7.9.18, 21.1.7.9.21, 21.1.7.9.22)].

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You'd be surprised how much of the problem is really in that many folks could care less to make a habit of deep Central Route Processing! It might be worth noting that the public education system in the USA has been strongly dumbed down since the 1950s or so.

[Anthony Joseph]

By that train of logic...

A "bill" (negotiable instrument) drafted by a payee and presented to the 'owner' of the credit ('amount due') indicate on said bill, should be signed on the face by said owner (releasing the credit) with orders and instructions to present said instrument to the U.S. Treasury for "payment".

Much like writing a check from a bank account; except, the credit amount is extended to the United States by the man (creditor), the credit is deposited in the account of the United States (debtor), and the "bill" (check) is sent to the payee to endorse and deposit into its account.

[allodial]

Or....

maybe the voucher is a check from Verizon Florida LLC (59-0397520) that you are supposed to make payable to Verizon somehow? If I wanted it to be in lawful money I might write: "one hundred and twenty-five and nine one hundredths dollars lawful money" somewhere on the face of the bill. The idea of a bill of exchange or check being sent incomplete with it being left to the recipient to fill it out is discussed in perhaps countless court cases and legal treatises.

Also, why release it to the United States Treasury unless you are paying your own taxes?

[Anthony Joseph]

Or....

maybe the voucher is a check from Verizon Florida LLC (59-0397520) that you are supposed to make payable to Verizon somehow? If I wanted it to be in lawful money I might write: "one hundred and twenty-five and nine one hundredths dollars lawful money" somewhere on the face of the bill. The idea of a bill of exchange or check being sent incomplete with it being left to the recipient to fill it out is discussed in perhaps countless court cases and legal treatises.

Also, why release it to the United States Treasury unless you are paying your own taxes?

Because the "bill" represents public debt amidst the "commercial war" stemming from the United States government bankruptcy; and, also represents the amount of credit requested for settlement which can only be released by the source of all credit - the living man who makes up part of the whole public. The U.S. Treasury is the public pool belonging to the people. The account of the United States is the property of the people and, when properly utilized, one of the people directs the drawer/payee of a "bill" to the "Drawee" (U.S. Treasury) for payment processing.